Lower US MNT pay and raise US WNT pay

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This is what people don’t understand

US Soccer is a part of FIFA, the worldwide governing body of soccer.

There are two pots of money generated for FIFA.

One pot is for the Men’s team’s generated by MLS, EPL, La Liga, National Men’s teams, video game, etc... for FIFA which they redistribute.

The other pot of money is produced by National teams, and a fledgling professional women’s teams worldwide, no video game, etc... for which FIFA redistributes.

If your country has a Men’s National Team and Professional League then the worldwide governing body of soccer will give you a piece from that pot.

If your country has a Women’s National Team and Professional League then the worldwide governing body of soccer will give you a piece from that pot.

The Men’s pot of money is vastly more profitable than the women’s.

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OK, much has been said about reaching equality, but after watching both teams on the world's stage, I'd say raise the women's pay and lower the men's!!

The Women's wages need lowering. The Women are receiving a lot more % of Revenue compared to the Men.So if it was fair the either lower the Women's wage or raise the men.

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This is what people don’t understand

US Soccer is a part of FIFA, the worldwide governing body of soccer.

There are two pots of money generated for FIFA.

One pot is for the Men’s team’s generated by MLS, EPL, La Liga, National Men’s teams, video game, etc... for FIFA which they redistribute.

The other pot of money is produced by National teams, and a fledgling professional women’s teams worldwide, no video game, etc... for which FIFA redistributes.

If your country has a Men’s National Team and Professional League then the worldwide governing body of soccer will give you a piece from that pot.

If your country has a Women’s National Team and Professional League then the worldwide governing body of soccer will give you a piece from that pot.

The Men’s pot of money is vastly more profitable than the women’s.

Perhaps there ought to be one pot they both draw from.

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They don't make more revenue. And the men's team would whoop their @ss if they ever played each other!

You are an idiot

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No one watches MLS, and the evidence being produced in discovery in the pay discrimination case reflects that the women's team is way more profitable than USSF has claimed. Its the same old story - men will take advantage of women without thinking twice about it, but scream bloody murder when they think they are being treated unfairly.

Plenty watch MLS games, on average 22,000 across the league https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2017-mls-attendance/

No one watches NWSL, on average 5,000 per game but only the Timbers get above 10,000 and get close to even low attendance MLS games https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2017-nwsl-attendance/

women's 2018 CONCAF had terrible attendance numbers; even the final only got about 7500 against Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_C...s_Championship

Men's CONCAF big attendance numbers. Even the lowest games had double most women's CONCAF and bigger games don't even compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_CONCACAF_Gold_Cup

More watch men's MLS games on TV, averaging 250,000 per game on ESPN and another similar number on Spanish language stations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_..._on_television

The NWSL averaged 90-100,000 and Lifetime dropped the league due to poor numbers.

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OK, much has been said about reaching equality, but after watching both teams on the world's stage, I'd say raise the women's pay and lower the men's!!

What are you Smokin ? Thank God your ****ty World cup is over. We've no need to hear from you for another for years.Move on.

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If women generate more revenue than men, then women should make more money than men.

1. Women’s team has scrimmaged and lost to boys U15 teams.
2. There really is no women’s World Cup but really a made for American TV event.
3. Since many nations don’t have female soccer nor watch it the money that Women’s soccer generates is a small fraction of what Men’s soccer produces.

4. Don’t believe me look it up yourself.

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Perhaps there ought to be one pot they both draw from.

In the Men’s World Cup cycle in Russia, the Men generated approximately $6 Billion in revenue. The USMNT contributed to that revenue over the four year cycle.

In the Women’s World Cup cycle in Canada, the Women generated approximately $73 Million. The USWNT contributed to that revenue over the four year cycle.

It would be unequal and unjust to give the same amount of pay to the women who clearly don’t generate the same level of revenue as the men did in their respective four year cycles.

73 Million = approximately 1% of what the men contribute to making every four years.

The revenue the women make is statistically insignificant when compared to the revenue that the men make every four years for FIFA.

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In the Men’s World Cup cycle in Russia, the Men generated approximately $6 Billion in revenue. The USMNT contributed to that revenue over the four year cycle.

In the Women’s World Cup cycle in Canada, the Women generated approximately $73 Million. The USWNT contributed to that revenue over the four year cycle.

It would be unequal and unjust to give the same amount of pay to the women who clearly don’t generate the same level of revenue as the men did in their respective four year cycles.

73 Million = approximately 1% of what the men contribute to making every four years.

The revenue the women make is statistically insignificant when compared to the revenue that the men make every four years for FIFA.

The numbers are all there. But few fair weather soccer fans understand that, and face it many of the fans were only because it's a US team not because they are regular soccer lovers. The women's team knew winning would rally public support behind them, and it definitely has. They only see the performance and the trophy. If you took out the FIFA contributions to US Soccer revenues the women have a case. But with that, the men dominate even when they can't win shi*.

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This is what people don’t understand

US Soccer is a part of FIFA, the worldwide governing body of soccer.

There are two pots of money generated for FIFA.

One pot is for the Men’s team’s generated by MLS, EPL, La Liga, National Men’s teams, video game, etc... for FIFA which they redistribute.

The other pot of money is produced by National teams, and a fledgling professional women’s teams worldwide, no video game, etc... for which FIFA redistributes.

If your country has a Men’s National Team and Professional League then the worldwide governing body of soccer will give you a piece from that pot.

If your country has a Women’s National Team and Professional League then the worldwide governing body of soccer will give you a piece from that pot.

The Men’s pot of money is vastly more profitable than the women’s.

FIFA gives the money to US Soccer. Does FIFA give money to other countries' governments who oversee their countries' soccer? Should the USA government take over US Soccer? US men and women Athletes should be paid equitable for the same jobs.

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FIFA gives the money to US Soccer. Does FIFA give money to other countries' governments who oversee their countries' soccer? Should the USA government take over US Soccer? US men and women Athletes should be paid equitable for the same jobs.

I posted this earlier. Forbes is the source.

In the Men’s World Cup cycle in Russia, the Men generated approximately $6 Billion in revenue. The USMNT contributed to that revenue over the four year cycle.

In the Women’s World Cup cycle in Canada, the Women generated approximately $73 Million. The USWNT contributed to that revenue over the four year cycle.

It would be unequal and unjust to give the same amount of pay to the women who clearly don’t generate the same level of revenue as the men did in their respective four year cycles.

73 Million = approximately 1% of what the men contribute to making every four years.

The revenue the women make is statistically insignificant when compared to the revenue that the men make every four years for FIFA.

Our US women worldwide in TV contracts, World Cup, Professional Leagues, etc. combined with the rest of the entire women’s soccer worldwide only produce 1% compared to the Men’s soccer worldwide.

Separate out just the USWNT from the rest of the women’s soccer four year World Cup cycle and you obviously would have less than 1%.

This is business. Women’s soccer from a financial aspect worldwide is a poor investment when compared to Men’s. The USWNT brings less than the USMNT foes from FIFA. Without the men, there would be no USWNT. The converse of that is not true.

The men financially support the women’s team because they bring in vastly more money from FIFA than the team does.

We live in a global financial market. Those are the facts.

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^ this guy gets it. If you took FIFA money out of the equation for the US national teams no doubt the women would do better. But that isn't how revenues are calculated. And it's also stuck in time. If the men's NT actually started winning they'd get much bigger numbers than the women do. There's countless headlines about how the WWC final had more viewer's than the men's. Duh. The MNT wasn't in the WC final! If they were it would be at least 3 times the women's viewership. People watch men's soccer year round, year after year. People only watch women's soccer very few years for the Olympic and WWC.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUuo_yUyBCk&t=218s
People actually should just watch this. They are paid less because they don't draw as much attention as men's soccer.

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^ this guy gets it. If you took FIFA money out of the equation for the US national teams no doubt the women would do better. But that isn't how revenues are calculated. And it's also stuck in time. If the men's NT actually started winning they'd get much bigger numbers than the women do. There's countless headlines about how the WWC final had more viewer's than the men's. Duh. The MNT wasn't in the WC final! If they were it would be at least 3 times the women's viewership. People watch men's soccer year round, year after year. People only watch women's soccer very few years for the Olympic and WWC.

Consider this.

The Rays make a considerable amount of profit from their revenue sharing with MLB combined with their low pay salary scale.

Nobody in their right mind would suggest that the Rays players should be paid equal to that of the Yankees, Redsox, Cubs, or Dodgers roster, but yet that is what the USWNT and some people are suggesting.

If the Rays did that, they would be broke.

The Yankees, Redsox, Cubs and Dodgers support Major League Baseball and teams like the Rays because their fans are terrific in their support at the stadiums, tv contracts, business season tickets, merchandise, etc.

Because of their association with FIFA Men’s soccer, the USMNT is the Yankees and the USWNT is the Rays.

In 70,000 seat NFL stadiums such as the Titans and the Bucs, the women’s world national soccer games in the She Believes Cup averaged about 15,000.

There is just not that great of a demand for the product of women’s soccer. Numbers don’t lie.

Now consider these four friendly games involving the USMNT at NFL stadiums.
9/7/18 – Friendly – USA vs. Brazil – MetLife Stadium – 32,489
9/11/18 – Friendly – USA vs. Mexico – Nissan Stadium – 40,194
10/11/18 – Friendly – USA vs. Colombia – Raymond James Stadium – 38,631
10/16/18 – Friendly – USA vs. Peru – Pratt & Whitney Stadium – 24,959

For as much as they are not nearly as successful as the women on the field, at the box office they are vastly superior to the USWNT.

Now draw the equivalency and multiply MLB successful franchises by the legions of worldwide fan support for such clubs and national teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Bayern, Paris, Brazil, Germany, France and you quickly should understand why the USMNT is much more profitable than the USWNT.

To argue otherwise defies the numbers when it comes to the numbers and one then must consider what other agenda is driving it.

Yes, the USWNT is extremely successful on the field, but unfortunately for them their success resulted has not resulted in great worldwide revenue for women’s soccer.

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Perhaps there ought to be one pot they both draw from.

On what possible basis would they make this decision? Out of charity or the kindness of their heart?

This is what I don't get. Why should the women get more money? If Fifa only has 32 million to distribute for the womens world cup that is on sponsors not anyone else. Why not petition the sponsors to pay more for ads during womens games and make the pot bigger?

Just taking from the men for no reason other than, " well it sounds fair" is a stupid idea.

How about we make sure everyone in every job in the US makes the same? Its just fair afterall. Doesn't matter what someone is willing to pay for your services, we all need to be paid the same because it sounds nice and we can all sing kumbaya.

Grow up.