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    #16
    thanks again for the additional replies

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Another Town team option I would recommend is Hauppauge. Great trainer, low fees.
      I just went on the Hauppauge league site, there is a document called Travel FAQ's. for costs, it says:

      Q: How much money does travel soccer cost?
      There are a couple of costs to consider when you have a son or daughter in travel soccer. We’ll take them one at a time:
      - Registration will cost approximately $250.00, which covers both the fall and spring season
      - Uniform costs plus a travel soccer bag will cost approximately $150.00
      - You may be required to pay monthly dues for a professional trainer to train your team. If used once a week, assume approximately $1,200 per year
      - There could be some additional costs if your team does extensive outside tournaments and winter leagues


      $1,600+ per year is considered "low"?

      I'm asking seriously, I have no frame of reference. thanks

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        #18
        Oh yea. I would say $1600/year is very low. Play for the bigger clubs and the "tuition" alone is anywhere from $1500 up to $3500. Add uniform, winter supplementals, travel/hotels, tournament fees and you're easily at $4-5k.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Oh yea. I would say $1600/year is very low. Play for the bigger clubs and the "tuition" alone is anywhere from $1500 up to $3500. Add uniform, winter supplementals, travel/hotels, tournament fees and you're easily at $4-5k.
          many thanks for your candor.

          what a shame for truly talented kids whose parents can't afford.

          no wonder we don't make the World Cup anymore.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            many thanks for your candor.

            what a shame for truly talented kids whose parents can't afford.

            no wonder we don't make the World Cup anymore.
            if your child is truly talented, have him try out for a DA club, like Cosmos or NYCFC, RedBulls.

            you will be travelling. Cosmos is free.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              many thanks for your candor.

              what a shame for truly talented kids whose parents can't afford.

              no wonder we don't make the World Cup anymore.
              Make no mistake if a kid is talented those fees plummet real fast. The reason theyre so high is because most boys (and all girls) are subsidizing the kids who are talented but can't pay.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Make no mistake if a kid is talented those fees plummet real fast. The reason theyre so high is because most boys (and all girls) are subsidizing the kids who are talented but can't pay.
                ah, Ok. so there's wiggle room for negotiation?

                you try out, they say you made the team; then you say, eh, $ is kinda steep, then they drop down based on how bad they want your kid?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  ah, Ok. so there's wiggle room for negotiation?

                  you try out, they say you made the team; then you say, eh, $ is kinda steep, then they drop down based on how bad they want your kid?
                  there's no hard and fast fixed rule out there. you have nothing to lose by trying out. give it a go before you miss out this year. something may look appealing to you and you don't even realize it now. most of all, is your kid up for the challenge? a lot of the higher level kids don't have time to juggle multiple sports.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I just went on the Hauppauge league site, there is a document called Travel FAQ's. for costs, it says:

                    Q: How much money does travel soccer cost?
                    There are a couple of costs to consider when you have a son or daughter in travel soccer. We’ll take them one at a time:
                    - Registration will cost approximately $250.00, which covers both the fall and spring season
                    - Uniform costs plus a travel soccer bag will cost approximately $150.00
                    - You may be required to pay monthly dues for a professional trainer to train your team. If used once a week, assume approximately $1,200 per year
                    - There could be some additional costs if your team does extensive outside tournaments and winter leagues


                    $1,600+ per year is considered "low"?

                    I'm asking seriously, I have no frame of reference. thanks
                    Ronkonkoma has teams that cost as little as $400 for the entire year. Most expensive is probably $1200 but that team plays in multiple leagues and goes to a lot of tournaments.

                    As for why, they keep registration and uniforms costs to the absolute minimum and most of the teams are lucky enough to have the trainers doing the work for between $0 and $40 a month per player.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      ah, Ok. so there's wiggle room for negotiation?

                      you try out, they say you made the team; then you say, eh, $ is kinda steep, then they drop down based on how bad they want your kid?
                      Never hurts to ask, but be prepared to pay up or walk if they say no. Some clubs will do financial need only and ask for proof of need.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Ronkonkoma has teams that cost as little as $400 for the entire year. Most expensive is probably $1200 but that team plays in multiple leagues and goes to a lot of tournaments.

                        As for why, they keep registration and uniforms costs to the absolute minimum and most of the teams are lucky enough to have the trainers doing the work for between $0 and $40 a month per player.
                        How do they pay for the league registration fee, training fees, insurance, refs and field fees for $400 a kid? That's incredible. I'm assuming dad or mom training?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          How do they pay for the league registration fee, training fees, insurance, refs and field fees for $400 a kid? That's incredible. I'm assuming dad or mom training?
                          Registration fee for LIJSL for the year is $190 at every age group which includes the ref fee, Uniform kit with tax is $68 (club makes zero profit on them) so the true minimum is $258 all in.

                          NYPL and EDP are a bit more complicated as the club collects a lower registration fee, but expects the coaches to collect the referee fees for those leagues on their own. So at the younger ages with cheaper referees it comes out to about the same or less than the LIJSL registration fee listed above. Older ages generally come out to a little more. But that all depends on the roster size.

                          A couple teams have matching bags, practice uniforms and so on. Most don't. Again, this is a team decision to do what they want on their own. The club itself doesn't involve itself in this money (and thus makes zero profit on any of it).

                          Above that you are talking about NY Cup, tournament and winter league fees, but a good amount of those are covered by fundraisers. Even when paid out of pocket, the clubs not involved in the money and makes zero profit on them so the costs remain very low. And the larger the rosters the less cost per player.

                          As for the coaches, fortunately most teams have access to trainers (of their own choosing, again club is not involved and doesn't profit from any of it) at very low prices and the games themselves are for the most part run by the parent coaches. And again, we are fortunate in that most of the parent coaches know what they are doing at the games.

                          School fields are used so there is zero cost there. Club gets it's insurance, access to winter gym space and other administrative items for almost nothing through the parent organization (St Joseph's CYO of Ronkonkoma).

                          In short, the club only gets involved with the money when collecting registration fees for passes/league registration (and our minimal infrastructure) and leaves the teams alone to do as much (or as little) as they want in terms of extras. And most teams, even the ones that do a lot of extra's, take care to keep costs to a minimum. We know that our niche is in being a low cost club that gives ambitious coaches a lot of freedom to run their teams as they see fit.

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