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    #91
    Rush could make most sense to add ecnl on the girls side. It’s a national club and could pull from Whatcom, northwest United, Snohomish, and sound fc. finally give a viable option for the northern tier players without having to go to Seattle or Redmond. Girls from Everett north really don’t have the option right now unless their parents have 4 hours to kill every night.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      The new Valor Soccer Club(Maple Valley & Kent United) are promoting DA & ECNL in the near future to attract players. Stating they are the new fastest growing club with the best coaches and development path.
      That’s just a sales pitch . From what I have been told half the Kent United kids are already looking to leave as they don’t want to pay the prices valor (lol) are proposing . I have been told also that pac are losing their **** over Kent United merging with mv . Valor have absolutely no chance and will fold in a couple of years . Both clubs have been hit hugely (mv ku) in massive number drop offs . By merging two very average clubs you will not all of a sudden have a decent level premier club. Stay in your land average clubs not everyone wants to play for a garbage rcl team .

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        #93
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Well the cost at crossifre ecnl is the same as playing in the rcl club fee wise. But crossfire pays for all traveling expenses in the ecnl. So its actually cheaper than other clubs currently. Have heard a few clubs locally might be getting to ecnl teams each. Hope it's not true. Seattle United ecnl is struggling this year. Maybe one age group is doing ok but that's it. Numerous rcl division 1 teams are stronger. Also heard now that eugene left pac nw and headed to sound fc (surf) that his connections might get them ecnl as well. They dont have the talent for ecnl but that's not stopping anyone it seems.
        Just looked at the ECNL standings. Not one WA state ecnl club is dominating. All the leagues are diluted.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Just looked at the ECNL standings. Not one WA state ecnl club is dominating. All the leagues are diluted.
          ECNL standings show XFP doing the worst. PacNW and SU are roughly the same. WPFC is only marginally doing better than Pac/SU.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Rush could make most sense to add ecnl on the girls side. It’s a national club and could pull from Whatcom, northwest United, Snohomish, and sound fc. finally give a viable option for the northern tier players without having to go to Seattle or Redmond. Girls from Everett north really don’t have the option right now unless their parents have 4 hours to kill every night.
            Yakima or Spokane should be awarded ECNL over Rush or Snohomish. Not enough talent in Bellingham.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Just looked at the ECNL standings. Not one WA state ecnl club is dominating. All the leagues are diluted.
              How did you come to the conclusion that the league is diluted ? It may just be saying that Washington teams are not very good at soccer . We all know it already . Roll a turd in glitter it’s still a turd .

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                #97
                The area is totally diluted with too many clubs and too many different leagues. Washington is one of the top 3 states in the country for girls soccer talent wise. Southern California and Colorado might be the only places either more talent. Look at how the edp teams do year after year. Before adding Da and this year with numerous clubs getting ecnl, Washington teams have won numerous regional titles and even a few national championships. One of the major issues right now is so many players are switching from a team they've been with for years to this new ecnl option and having a full team of strangers and everyone expects the team to immediately know how to play with eachother, have faith in one another and trust. You might be loaded with talent on a certain team but they dont know how to play together. Takes more than a few months together for the coach to know all the new players strengths and weaknesses and what formations are correct for the set players. Then they get to travel to these out fo state tournaments and play against teams that have been together for years. Washington soccer is to blame for all this. Too many changes over the past 3 years that are putting the team aspect behind. Changing the calendar birth age groups, adding da, then adding ecnl to even more clubs, adding a champions league this coming year for a select 8 clubs, etc.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  The area is totally diluted with too many clubs and too many different leagues. Washington is one of the top 3 states in the country for girls soccer talent wise. Southern California and Colorado might be the only places either more talent. Look at how the edp teams do year after year. Before adding Da and this year with numerous clubs getting ecnl, Washington teams have won numerous regional titles and even a few national championships. One of the major issues right now is so many players are switching from a team they've been with for years to this new ecnl option and having a full team of strangers and everyone expects the team to immediately know how to play with eachother, have faith in one another and trust. You might be loaded with talent on a certain team but they dont know how to play together. Takes more than a few months together for the coach to know all the new players strengths and weaknesses and what formations are correct for the set players. Then they get to travel to these out fo state tournaments and play against teams that have been together for years. Washington soccer is to blame for all this. Too many changes over the past 3 years that are putting the team aspect behind. Changing the calendar birth age groups, adding da, then adding ecnl to even more clubs, adding a champions league this coming year for a select 8 clubs, etc.
                  Everything you mentioned is exactly the same issues every other state is going through. All these lovely new names for leagues are not going to develop any top players. Washington soccer used to be excellent in doing what American sport does well (participation ) they got so caught up in the quest to squeeze more money out of parents they have forgotten what youth sport is all about . Numbers are down dramatically and falling every year . It’s not like there is a ton more premier clubs in the area is there ? It’s just that less and less people are buying the cool aid !! Every premier club started to field 5 teams or as many as they possibly could , none were drifting down to select , when you never get the feeling of being a top dog in a team you soon fall out of love with the game . Kids dream as much as anyone else , if you are playing on the 3/4/5 team at a premier club you really are not that good and should consider saving money by going select and building up your confidence . The love of the game is far more important then being in a team just to offset the costs of the first team dreams of travelling the country pretending you are the best upper middle class kids in the state .

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The area is totally diluted with too many clubs and too many different leagues. Washington is one of the top 3 states in the country for girls soccer talent wise. Southern California and Colorado might be the only places either more talent. Look at how the edp teams do year after year. Before adding Da and this year with numerous clubs getting ecnl, Washington teams have won numerous regional titles and even a few national championships. One of the major issues right now is so many players are switching from a team they've been with for years to this new ecnl option and having a full team of strangers and everyone expects the team to immediately know how to play with eachother, have faith in one another and trust. You might be loaded with talent on a certain team but they dont know how to play together. Takes more than a few months together for the coach to know all the new players strengths and weaknesses and what formations are correct for the set players. Then they get to travel to these out fo state tournaments and play against teams that have been together for years. Washington soccer is to blame for all this. Too many changes over the past 3 years that are putting the team aspect behind. Changing the calendar birth age groups, adding da, then adding ecnl to even more clubs, adding a champions league this coming year for a select 8 clubs, etc.
                    You left out Texas, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, New Jersey, Illinois, etc...

                    Have you not noticed that times have changed?

                    EDP and ODP are dinosaurs.

                    The reason why these clubs are going to ECNL or DA is because that is where most of the nation's talent (and college coaches) are going on the girl's side.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      You left out Texas, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, New Jersey, Illinois, etc...

                      Have you not noticed that times have changed?

                      EDP and ODP are dinosaurs.

                      The reason why these clubs are going to ECNL or DA is because that is where most of the nation's talent (and college coaches) are going on the girl's side.
                      Yeah, GDA is dead in Wa state. Didn't you get the memo?
                      Eastside is going ECNL.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You left out Texas, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, New Jersey, Illinois, etc...

                        Have you not noticed that times have changed?

                        EDP and ODP are dinosaurs.

                        The reason why these clubs are going to ECNL or DA is because that is where most of the nation's talent (and college coaches) are going on the girl's side.
                        Why do you insist on the top talent being in DA or ECNL? I hate to tell you this but they are not the top talent they are just the privileged few . We have to stop this bs mindset . These kids are not scouted (there is zero scouting system) they are not massively talented just coached to the point of looking competent . I watch a lot of games from various standards to age ranges and see very limited natural ability and vision . Just players that have been coached to death in play by play systems . Even the mls is starting to dump US produced players for not even star South American imports .

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Why do you insist on the top talent being in DA or ECNL? I hate to tell you this but they are not the top talent they are just the privileged few . We have to stop this bs mindset . These kids are not scouted (there is zero scouting system) they are not massively talented just coached to the point of looking competent . I watch a lot of games from various standards to age ranges and see very limited natural ability and vision . Just players that have been coached to death in play by play systems . Even the mls is starting to dump US produced players for not even star South American imports .
                          I am not insisting the top talent being in DA or ECNL. It just seems that is the way the rest of the country has gone... including college coaches. It is an efficient way for college coaches to find player. If you are a unicorn then it really does not matter where you play. If you are in the 60% to 90% range then you probably need DA or ECNL to get into a decent college program. If that does not matter then you should go on doing what you are doing because it does not really matter any ways.

                          The boy's side is a different story.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Yeah, GDA is dead in Wa state. Didn't you get the memo?
                            Eastside is going ECNL.
                            Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. There is still a fair number of clubs nationally doing DA and the events are still covered by college coaches.

                            I do believe that ECNL is now ahead nationally, but I believe DA is still an option. With XF out of DA, Reign may be better because some girls don't want to play HS and want year round club.

                            It is nice to have options and it is better for the consumers.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I am not insisting the top talent being in DA or ECNL. It just seems that is the way the rest of the country has gone... including college coaches. It is an efficient way for college coaches to find player. If you are a unicorn then it really does not matter where you play. If you are in the 60% to 90% range then you probably need DA or ECNL to get into a decent college program. If that does not matter then you should go on doing what you are doing because it does not really matter any ways.

                              The boy's side is a different story.
                              How is the boys side a different story ?

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