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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Total Lie. my friends kid plays academy. He is not well off. Makes less than 60K per year. Applied for financial aid. Did not even get a reply. Called them multiple times and was finally told that they didn't have any money. He had to take a high interest personal loan. Heard similar stories from others.

    They know they have people by the you know what. Only game in town other than the Revs and if you can't make the drive to Seacoast or Oakwood (most can't).

    The kid must not be a top 12 on the team.
    If he was then they would accommodate.

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      #32
      Need residential for 15+ yo

      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Very short sighted comments. Although the premier league is a great league, there are other leagues and many players out there playing. A drop in players in the EPL may reflect other avenues that players are considering. While the MLS is still a second tier league it too is improving. It is quite possible that talented players are looking at their financials which are factually improving in the MLS.

      https://ussoccerplayers.com/usmnt-players-abroad
      https://ussoccerplayers.com/us-national-team-squad

      As for the DA, perhaps it is a step in the right direction but not the last step. The league has clearly recognized two facts about youth sports, especially in a country where sports has to compete with already established and very prominent alternatives.
      1. Money. The less expensive club soccer becomes, the more attractive it will be. The DA clubs....and non-DA clubs....are looking for ways to make this happen. Granted...at the expense of players/families that are willing to pay the full fee.
      2. Money. MLS salaries are increasing each year and interest (attendance and Media coverage) are increasing. Why go to Europe to make 50-80K pounds when you can stay home and make 125K dollars?
      3. The DA has realized that two days per week training was worthless. Four (standard)- five days per week with weekend game (s) is moving in the right direction

      The next step are residence academies.
      IMG in Florida
      Barca in Arizona
      DC United with Calverton Academy

      The direction is positive. To state otherwise is somewhat ignorant.
      Maj DA trains a ludicrous 3x/week, 4.5 hrs with one game. REsidential academies by 15 are the only way to create real futbal players, which is what happens in Europe and So america. Atlanta U, Phila U, LA Galaxy have Res academies and you can see the signings as well as the development advances. East coasters/New Englanders have a double edged sword - Revs stepchild to Patriots and education is foremost in the mind of DA players/parents. They're in it for college, not to go pro

      - and they have no chance missing 1000s of hours of training to residential DAs

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        #33
        Full time academies for training by 15

        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Maj DA trains a ludicrous 3x/week, 4.5 hrs with one game. REsidential academies by 15 are the only way to create real futbal players, which is what happens in Europe and So america. Atlanta U, Phila U, LA Galaxy have Res academies and you can see the signings as well as the development advances. East coasters/New Englanders have a double edged sword - Revs stepchild to Patriots and education is foremost in the mind of DA players/parents. They're in it for college, not to go pro

        - and they have no chance missing 1000s of hours of training to residential DAs
        Only way to get US competitive - residential and relegation

        otherwise we're just playing this silly football owner crap over and over

        Arena, please! who the heck puts a 70yo who hasnt touched a soccer ball in 40 years with nothing to show in charge??? His buddies, that's who! Yea, let's get rid of this foreigner Klinsman cuz we're trumped up. what a waste of time and talent!

        FOr petes sakes USSF grow some balls and demand residential/ full time academies

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          #34
          How do Academies benefit from their DAs

          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Only way to get US competitive - residential and relegation

          otherwise we're just playing this silly football owner crap over and over

          Arena, please! who the heck puts a 70yo who hasnt touched a soccer ball in 40 years with nothing to show in charge??? His buddies, that's who! Yea, let's get rid of this foreigner Klinsman cuz we're trumped up. what a waste of time and talent!

          FOr petes sakes USSF grow some balls and demand residential/ full time academies
          Anyone know how an academy benefits from having homegrowns? (e.g. the model in the EU for producing phenoms)

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Anyone know how an academy benefits from having homegrowns? (e.g. the model in the EU for producing phenoms)
            Do you mean how the MLS team benefits from homegrowns or the Academy

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The kid must not be a top 12 on the team.
              If he was then they would accommodate.
              third highest goal scorer on the team.

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                #37
                How about going back to the subject of the thread?

                from the article about Cameron:

                As for being branded a Trump supporter, Cameron said: “I’m not like a hard-core Republican. I wasn’t walking around wearing ‘Make America Great Again’ hats. I just couldn’t vote for Hillary — I just didn’t like Hillary as a person or a politician.

                .................................................. ........................

                As though talent in the US wasn't limited enough, now the brain dead leaders are cutting top talent for opinions that run contrary to lemming liberal mindset that would have destroyed this country if not for the election of Donald Trump.

                Get used to getting shellacked in International games as long as social justice fools are running the show.

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                  #38
                  How about going back to the subject of the thread?

                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  How about going back to the subject of the thread?

                  from the article about Cameron:

                  As for being branded a Trump supporter, Cameron said: “I’m not like a hard-core Republican. I wasn’t walking around wearing ‘Make America Great Again’ hats. I just couldn’t vote for Hillary — I just didn’t like Hillary as a person or a politician.

                  .................................................. ........................

                  As though talent in the US wasn't limited enough, now the brain dead leaders are cutting top talent for opinions that run contrary to lemming liberal mindset that would have destroyed this country if not for the election of Donald Trump.

                  Get used to getting shellacked in International games as long as social justice fools are running the show.
                  How about going back to the subject of the thread?
                  Can you point to any connection to "shellacking"? Your unsubstantiatable conspiracy theory weaves are tiresome even for this old Republican.

                  I suppose the liberal lemmings fired Klinsman for the arch Democrat Liberal Lemming Arena.

                  Sheesh... you're spinning spinning spinning with no results. Stick to the topic

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                    #39
                    How do Academies benefit MLS owners?

                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Do you mean how the MLS team benefits from homegrowns or the Academy
                    Propably Academy. Seems like the money they drip in ($1 Mill for the Patriots/ ... I mean Revs) Is barely returned. They sign less than 1 homegrown a year.

                    $1M / year spent on 5 youth teams = 100 kids/year

                    A new player from a college draft starts around $80K?

                    Is it for branding?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Propably Academy. Seems like the money they drip in ($1 Mill for the Patriots/ ... I mean Revs) Is barely returned. They sign less than 1 homegrown a year.

                      $1M / year spent on 5 youth teams = 100 kids/year

                      A new player from a college draft starts around $80K?

                      Is it for branding?
                      http://www.espn.com/soccer/major-lea...le-league-wide
                      ...
                      MLS will no doubt rely on its talking points of how it operates within a world market for players. That's true, but the reality is there are two markets. One for the players already in the league -- as Jones was made painfully aware when he took a $2.55 million pay cut this year -- and one for those players looking to make a move to or from MLS. Need further proof? Look at the situation surrounding Jorge Villafaña, who tripled his salary when he moved from the Portland Timbers to Liga MX side Santos Laguna. If that doesn't point to how MLS keeps player salaries artificially low, nothing does.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Propably Academy. Seems like the money they drip in ($1 Mill for the Patriots/ ... I mean Revs) Is barely returned. They sign less than 1 homegrown a year.

                        $1M / year spent on 5 youth teams = 100 kids/year

                        A new player from a college draft starts around $80K?

                        Is it for branding?
                        Revs are doing it because they don't have a choice. If they could drop it they would. Their homegrown track record is very poor but not surprising given how little effort they put into it. Other clubs have done better. However, the issue that clubs can't really profit from youth players they've developed the way international clubs can is present for every MLS club.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Propably Academy. Seems like the money they drip in ($1 Mill for the Patriots/ ... I mean Revs) Is barely returned. They sign less than 1 homegrown a year.

                          $1M / year spent on 5 youth teams = 100 kids/year

                          A new player from a college draft starts around $80K?

                          Is it for branding?
                          If you are running an academy correctly, the benefits are the following

                          1. homegrown salaries don't count against teams salary cap. Allowing team to sign more players
                          2. Homegrown players can't be allocated via the draft or other mechanism. Can't lose your investment.
                          3. Even college or national team play doesn't negate homegrown status. See number two
                          4. Marketing. Shows that there is a path to the pro team for other u littles. Brings in more cash

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If you are running an academy correctly, the benefits are the following

                            1. homegrown salaries don't count against teams salary cap. Allowing team to sign more players
                            2. Homegrown players can't be allocated via the draft or other mechanism. Can't lose your investment.
                            3. Even college or national team play doesn't negate homegrown status. See number two
                            4. Marketing. Shows that there is a path to the pro team for other u littles. Brings in more cash
                            The flaw with #4 is that the Revs have a poor homegrown track record which may be working against them, rather than for them. With camps and RDS they can partially offset their DA costs. Given how little the spend on DA in their case it might even break even for them. Most MLS clubs do that not just for the cash but because they know sucker parents will pay hoping their kids might get "discovered." However, if you have an upper echelon player and do your homework you will see the Revs might not always be the best place for that player.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The flaw with #4 is that the Revs have a poor homegrown track record which may be working against them, rather than for them. With camps and RDS they can partially offset their DA costs. Given how little the spend on DA in their case it might even break even for them. Most MLS clubs do that not just for the cash but because they know sucker parents will pay hoping their kids might get "discovered." However, if you have an upper echelon player and do your homework you will see the Revs might not always be the best place for that player.
                              Please reread the first sentence of the post

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Please reread the first sentence of the post
                                yeah I know. They're anything but a well run DA club. If they weren't MLS and USSF wasn't so distracted with 100 other things I don't think they'd get away with some of the things they do. It's pathetic that the only MLS club around doesn't even practice to required 4 days a week. I might expect that from a small non MLS club like OW. MLS DA is supposed to be the pinnacle of development.

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