Is ecnl worth the cost

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I have always wondered why people always talk about DI and DIII...never DII?

There's some good D2 soccer programs, but academically they tend to be very weak. There's a few exceptions, and of course for some students they are academically appropriate. But isn't an area you'll find many on TS bragging or talking about.

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This thread is really the ROI question. Is there really a true ROI at the D3 level?

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Stands to reason if the poster didn’t feel the ECNL was going to help a NT level player then the answer is probably no that the cost isn’t warranted. The question then who exactly does the ECNL help?

Anyone else but a NT player who has access to "training with and playing against college and pro level players"? Just a guess.

Of course if your local ECNL options blow don't do it. If it doesn't fit with a player's goals or skills, don't do it. If it doesn't fit your budget, don't do it. It's very individually based.

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This thread is really the ROI question. Is there really a true ROI at the D3 level?

here we go....you all knew it was coming right?

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Good gawd here we go again.

If you going to look at strictly club fees related to any scholarship money you receive as the only way to look at this, there cannot be any ROI. Heck, once you bought a pair of kids size 11 cleats, you are behind and will never get that money back if that's how you want to look at it.

There's more to life than ROI.

I've spent thousands of dollars on skiing, climbing, and hiking gear over the year. 10x what I laid out in soccer gear. ROI was nothing, other than personal enjoyment.

Sure, I could've just gone for a walk on a town road and spent less...

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Stands to reason if the poster didn’t feel the ECNL was going to help a NT level player then the answer is probably no that the cost isn’t warranted. The question then who exactly does the ECNL help?

It is a game. Soccer. Fun. Well off kids can afford to have it be more fun. If you are talented and competitive, then more competitive competition is more fun. ECNL and GDA and everyone else understand it ans have monetized it and here we are.

Plenty of ECNl and GDA kids won't play in college at all. And many many will. If you think is all ROI then yo are not really understanding the total picture.

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There's some good D2 soccer programs, but academically they tend to be very weak. There's a few exceptions, and of course for some students they are academically appropriate. But isn't an area you'll find many on TS bragging or talking about.

Also, aren't there far less D2 schools out there, compared to D1 and D3?
In New England, they all play in the same league?

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Also, aren't there far less D2 schools out there, compared to D1 and D3?
In New England, they all play in the same league?

Same league as what?

SNHU, Southern CT, FPC, all great soccer programs. They do a lot of international recruiting. Some are very good academic schools (i.e. SNHU for example).

Just curious how we always swing from I to III.

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Also, aren't there far less D2 schools out there, compared to D1 and D3?
In New England, they all play in the same league?

For women's soccer there's fewer programs, but for men's it's about the same as D1. Lots of international players in men's D2 because the academic requirements aren't as a strong but there's still athletic $. http://www.scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html


But when you look at the schools on the list you're find many you've never heard of

top programs this year https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer...ional-rankings

all schools (slightly outdated but gives you an idea): https://blog.prepscholar.com/the-com...leges-by-state

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here we go....you all knew it was coming right?

What is the title of this thread? Of course it’s the ROI discussion. How else can you talk about whether a cost is worth it? Just because you’ve already answered that for yourself that doesn’t mean everyone else has

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It is a game. Soccer. Fun. Well off kids can afford to have it be more fun. If you are talented and competitive, then more competitive competition is more fun. ECNL and GDA and everyone else understand it ans have monetized it and here we are.

Plenty of ECNl and GDA kids won't play in college at all. And many many will. If you think is all ROI then yo are not really understanding the total picture.

So there is the answer. If you want to be over indulgent and spend regardless of any outcome then of course you should do the ECNL. As the poster above points out there are lots of keep dis playing there without any college aspirations so of course that’s the place to be.

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Same league as what?

SNHU, Southern CT, FPC, all great soccer programs. They do a lot of international recruiting. Some are very good academic schools (i.e. SNHU for example).

Just curious how we always swing from I to III.

Because when your kid isn’t a very good soccer player but you’ve dumped a ton of money into club soccer you have to pivot and make the case that it’s really all about attending some tiny snob school.

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Because when your kid isn’t a very good soccer player but you’ve dumped a ton of money into club soccer you have to pivot and make the case that it’s really all about attending some tiny snob school.

I suppose that applies to have of the posts. The other half say "too bad your kid isn't good enough for DI and have fun in DIII".

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What is the title of this thread? Of course it’s the ROI discussion. How else can you talk about whether a cost is worth it? Just because you’ve already answered that for yourself that doesn’t mean everyone else has

ROI is dollars and cents. What a player gets out of playing in a certain league or at a certain club in terms of development, satisfaction etc cannot be measured. You also cannot prove after the fact that participating in a specific league provided a greater return than not participating because you cannot measure the results of the path not chosen. Even when measuring so called ROI it's all individual - one player could have a great ROI and another one doesn't. Since ECNL is still holding strong it seems like more families than not like what they get out of it. Your mileage may vary :)

net net there's no guarantees to anything. Find your kid the best club for his/her skills, goals and your budget. The rest will sort itself out over time.

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I suppose that applies to have of the posts. The other half say "too bad your kid isn't good enough for DI and have fun in DIII".

No what they actually say is *** are you doing screwing around with an ECNL team?