Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

GDA v ECNL - 2018

Collapse
X
  •  
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    They do it (for the most part) with BDA. Look at how well that's worked out for them.
    Its huge money and bigly power ...... Pride and winning are no match. Once again the American public has been duoed into thinkong brand names are what they were 40 years ago.

    Comment


      The average male soccer player coming out of the DA now is significantly better than the avg youth player of 10 years ago. The difference is dramatic. 99% of us though don't have the ability to see this. They think the success of the BDA is measured by the men's national team results. C'mon guys, really?

      Do you think the Germanys, Brazils, Englands, Spains, Belgiums, etc are sitting idle? They're actually improving faster than us because they're soccer rich countries. In the case if an Iceland, they can make gigantic leaps in development because implementation is easy when you're only trying to change 350,000 people. The US's size is a DISADVANTAGE, not an advantage!

      I give US Soccer tons of credit for starting the GDA. They realized our women were being caught fast. Why is that do you think? Is it because other countries are now focusing on women's soccer development? Is it because US women's soccer wasn't evolving? Yes and yes.

      Comment


        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The average male soccer player coming out of the DA now is significantly better than the avg youth player of 10 years ago. The difference is dramatic. 99% of us though don't have the ability to see this. They think the success of the BDA is measured by the men's national team results. C'mon guys, really?

        Do you think the Germanys, Brazils, Englands, Spains, Belgiums, etc are sitting idle? They're actually improving faster than us because they're soccer rich countries. In the case if an Iceland, they can make gigantic leaps in development because implementation is easy when you're only trying to change 350,000 people. The US's size is a DISADVANTAGE, not an advantage!

        I give US Soccer tons of credit for starting the GDA. They realized our women were being caught fast. Why is that do you think? Is it because other countries are now focusing on women's soccer development? Is it because US women's soccer wasn't evolving? Yes and yes.
        Wait, let me get this straight. Iceland is 1000x smaller than us and that is why they are better than us. What next, our wealth is another disadvantage? Yes, on average boys (and girls) are better at every age than the previous generation but it is not because of DA. It is because that simply happens over time for every sport. Same in basketball baseball hockey and football. Oh, I see, DA must have saved them too. You're nuts homer. Is this Sunil, April, Jill, or Carlos?

        Comment


          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Except in this case he is 100% correct. 5 months in GDA hasn't developed anybody. The listings of college commitments are especially absurd since almost every player came into GDA already recruited.

          By this time next year they won't select anyone from outside GDA just to send a very clear message that 1) you'll never have a shot at NT unless you're in GDA 2) this is the place to be just because 100% of NT players are here
          And what exactly did the ECNL do different ?

          Comment


            Dorrance is disgusted? Im disgusted he recruits 7th graders. I guess that mkes us even.

            This man could be the leader. He could stand up for what is right. Instead he gets in the mud with everyone else and then cries foul when it does not go his way.

            He is the ultimate use any means to win guy and he is a hypocrite.

            Retire already, before people start dredging up the law suit thing again. In this day and age, that stuff does not get a pass.

            Comment


              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              And what exactly did the ECNL do different ?
              umm.....develop them

              Comment


                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The average male soccer player coming out of the DA now is significantly better than the avg youth player of 10 years ago. The difference is dramatic. 99% of us though don't have the ability to see this. They think the success of the BDA is measured by the men's national team results. C'mon guys, really?

                Do you think the Germanys, Brazils, Englands, Spains, Belgiums, etc are sitting idle? They're actually improving faster than us because they're soccer rich countries. In the case if an Iceland, they can make gigantic leaps in development because implementation is easy when you're only trying to change 350,000 people. The US's size is a DISADVANTAGE, not an advantage!

                I give US Soccer tons of credit for starting the GDA. They realized our women were being caught fast. Why is that do you think? Is it because other countries are now focusing on women's soccer development? Is it because US women's soccer wasn't evolving? Yes and yes.
                There is one giant hole in your argument. Both the DA and the ECNL have been around for 10 years now. The MNT has regressed while the WNT remains the best, against increasing competition. Flashier players on the men’s side? Sure. But not effective and not smart. I give US Soccer no credit for starting the GDA, we are all dumber for having to listen to their drivel, and may god have mercy on their soul.

                Comment


                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  There is one giant hole in your argument. Both the DA and the ECNL have been around for 10 years now. The MNT has regressed while the WNT remains the best, against increasing competition. Flashier players on the men’s side? Sure. But not effective and not smart. I give US Soccer no credit for starting the GDA, we are all dumber for having to listen to their drivel, and may god have mercy on their soul.
                  The problem with the Men’s Team is that they got old. This next cycle a lot more DA alumni will be involved

                  Comment


                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The problem with the Men’s Team is that they got old. This next cycle a lot more DA alumni will be involved
                    they got old? were they good and then got old or did they suck the whole time

                    Comment


                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      they got old? were they good and then got old or did they suck the whole time
                      Depends on your narrative

                      I believe they were good and then hit the expiration date.

                      Dempsey and Howard are great examples. Very good players who could compete in EPL and should have been replaced

                      I would also say that the US has a ton of talent under the age of 25 in the pipeline

                      Comment


                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        There is one giant hole in your argument. Both the DA and the ECNL have been around for 10 years now. The MNT has regressed while the WNT remains the best, against increasing competition. Flashier players on the men’s side? Sure. But not effective and not smart. I give US Soccer no credit for starting the GDA, we are all dumber for having to listen to their drivel, and may god have mercy on their soul.
                        The women's team is barely staying ahead...gap is closing quickly, hence the push for GDA. Most agree on the need, few agree GDA is the solution

                        Comment


                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The women's team is barely staying ahead...gap is closing quickly, hence the push for GDA. Most agree on the need, few agree GDA is the solution
                          You're looking at the glass as half empty ..... they have managed to stay ahead barely. Try this ..... other countries have really ramped up their development and the US is still the top team in the world.

                          Comment


                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            You're looking at the glass as half empty ..... they have managed to stay ahead barely. Try this ..... other countries have really ramped up their development and the US is still the top team in the world.
                            top team in the world. OK. on the basis of what ? 2015 ? most recent big tournament was the Olympics. US did not win.

                            The biggest problem the US face is this desperation to focus on the result ONLY. Without looking at how we get there.

                            we have never won a u-17 WC. Why? We are not dominant at U-20 ? Why?

                            Probably because the players we produce at youth level are not close to being good enough. Yet miraculously by NT level we are (according to you) the best in the world. Why?

                            miraculous improvement of players? Im guessing its because we really aren't that good. We outlast other countries because of T9 and MONEY. The rest of the world have struggled to have a player pool, we have MILLIONS. We focus on making money from our players, the RoW try and make them better. They already do more with less.

                            To get to where we can, lets stop fooling ourselves that we are doing well. Lets be honest and accept that we have gotten complacent and lazy. Look at College soccer. The best players are not American - Macario, Fleming, Russo, Quinn.

                            Comment


                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              You're looking at the glass as half empty ..... they have managed to stay ahead barely. Try this ..... other countries have really ramped up their development and the US is still the top team in the world, barely
                              Fixed it for you. Gap is closing fast. The days of athleticism and being one of the only countries spending on women's soccer are long over. But GDA won't help us stay ahead. Ten years of BDA and we're still stuck on the outside looking in.

                              Comment


                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                top team in the world. OK. on the basis of what ? 2015 ? most recent big tournament was the Olympics. US did not win.

                                The biggest problem the US face is this desperation to focus on the result ONLY. Without looking at how we get there.

                                we have never won a u-17 WC. Why? We are not dominant at U-20 ? Why?

                                Probably because the players we produce at youth level are not close to being good enough. Yet miraculously by NT level we are (according to you) the best in the world. Why?

                                miraculous improvement of players? Im guessing its because we really aren't that good. We outlast other countries because of T9 and MONEY. The rest of the world have struggled to have a player pool, we have MILLIONS. We focus on making money from our players, the RoW try and make them better. They already do more with less.

                                To get to where we can, lets stop fooling ourselves that we are doing well. Lets be honest and accept that we have gotten complacent and lazy. Look at College soccer. The best players are not American - Macario, Fleming, Russo, Quinn.
                                This is an easy one. The reason why we don’t win at U17 or dominant at U20 is because of the staff. Clueless group of failed coaches that are now bringing you the GDA. Hahaha. In all seriousness, it is because the teams don’t train together enough at those ages. Assembling groups once or twice a year won’t get it done regardless of the talent level. Everyone on here is an expert and loves to throw shade but the face of the matter is that we have stayed at or near the top of the world for nearly 30 years and other countries have been pushing hard for 10-15. That’s a pretty good run. The men struggle because there are more options for our best athletes. For women, soccer is one of the biggest and strongest programs offered. It’s so simple I thought even you’d understand it. It’s all ball bearings these days.

                                Comment

                                Previously entered content was automatically saved. Restore or Discard.
                                Auto-Saved
                                x
                                Insert: Thumbnail Small Medium Large Fullsize Remove  
                                x
                                Working...
                                X