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The average male soccer player coming out of the DA now is significantly better than the avg youth player of 10 years ago. The difference is dramatic. 99% of us though don't have the ability to see this. They think the success of the BDA is measured by the men's national team results. C'mon guys, really?
Do you think the Germanys, Brazils, Englands, Spains, Belgiums, etc are sitting idle? They're actually improving faster than us because they're soccer rich countries. In the case if an Iceland, they can make gigantic leaps in development because implementation is easy when you're only trying to change 350,000 people. The US's size is a DISADVANTAGE, not an advantage!
I give US Soccer tons of credit for starting the GDA. They realized our women were being caught fast. Why is that do you think? Is it because other countries are now focusing on women's soccer development? Is it because US women's soccer wasn't evolving? Yes and yes.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe average male soccer player coming out of the DA now is significantly better than the avg youth player of 10 years ago. The difference is dramatic. 99% of us though don't have the ability to see this. They think the success of the BDA is measured by the men's national team results. C'mon guys, really?
Do you think the Germanys, Brazils, Englands, Spains, Belgiums, etc are sitting idle? They're actually improving faster than us because they're soccer rich countries. In the case if an Iceland, they can make gigantic leaps in development because implementation is easy when you're only trying to change 350,000 people. The US's size is a DISADVANTAGE, not an advantage!
I give US Soccer tons of credit for starting the GDA. They realized our women were being caught fast. Why is that do you think? Is it because other countries are now focusing on women's soccer development? Is it because US women's soccer wasn't evolving? Yes and yes.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostExcept in this case he is 100% correct. 5 months in GDA hasn't developed anybody. The listings of college commitments are especially absurd since almost every player came into GDA already recruited.
By this time next year they won't select anyone from outside GDA just to send a very clear message that 1) you'll never have a shot at NT unless you're in GDA 2) this is the place to be just because 100% of NT players are here
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Dorrance is disgusted? Im disgusted he recruits 7th graders. I guess that mkes us even.
This man could be the leader. He could stand up for what is right. Instead he gets in the mud with everyone else and then cries foul when it does not go his way.
He is the ultimate use any means to win guy and he is a hypocrite.
Retire already, before people start dredging up the law suit thing again. In this day and age, that stuff does not get a pass.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe average male soccer player coming out of the DA now is significantly better than the avg youth player of 10 years ago. The difference is dramatic. 99% of us though don't have the ability to see this. They think the success of the BDA is measured by the men's national team results. C'mon guys, really?
Do you think the Germanys, Brazils, Englands, Spains, Belgiums, etc are sitting idle? They're actually improving faster than us because they're soccer rich countries. In the case if an Iceland, they can make gigantic leaps in development because implementation is easy when you're only trying to change 350,000 people. The US's size is a DISADVANTAGE, not an advantage!
I give US Soccer tons of credit for starting the GDA. They realized our women were being caught fast. Why is that do you think? Is it because other countries are now focusing on women's soccer development? Is it because US women's soccer wasn't evolving? Yes and yes.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThere is one giant hole in your argument. Both the DA and the ECNL have been around for 10 years now. The MNT has regressed while the WNT remains the best, against increasing competition. Flashier players on the men’s side? Sure. But not effective and not smart. I give US Soccer no credit for starting the GDA, we are all dumber for having to listen to their drivel, and may god have mercy on their soul.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postthey got old? were they good and then got old or did they suck the whole time
I believe they were good and then hit the expiration date.
Dempsey and Howard are great examples. Very good players who could compete in EPL and should have been replaced
I would also say that the US has a ton of talent under the age of 25 in the pipeline
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThere is one giant hole in your argument. Both the DA and the ECNL have been around for 10 years now. The MNT has regressed while the WNT remains the best, against increasing competition. Flashier players on the men’s side? Sure. But not effective and not smart. I give US Soccer no credit for starting the GDA, we are all dumber for having to listen to their drivel, and may god have mercy on their soul.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe women's team is barely staying ahead...gap is closing quickly, hence the push for GDA. Most agree on the need, few agree GDA is the solution
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou're looking at the glass as half empty ..... they have managed to stay ahead barely. Try this ..... other countries have really ramped up their development and the US is still the top team in the world.
The biggest problem the US face is this desperation to focus on the result ONLY. Without looking at how we get there.
we have never won a u-17 WC. Why? We are not dominant at U-20 ? Why?
Probably because the players we produce at youth level are not close to being good enough. Yet miraculously by NT level we are (according to you) the best in the world. Why?
miraculous improvement of players? Im guessing its because we really aren't that good. We outlast other countries because of T9 and MONEY. The rest of the world have struggled to have a player pool, we have MILLIONS. We focus on making money from our players, the RoW try and make them better. They already do more with less.
To get to where we can, lets stop fooling ourselves that we are doing well. Lets be honest and accept that we have gotten complacent and lazy. Look at College soccer. The best players are not American - Macario, Fleming, Russo, Quinn.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou're looking at the glass as half empty ..... they have managed to stay ahead barely. Try this ..... other countries have really ramped up their development and the US is still the top team in the world, barely
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Posttop team in the world. OK. on the basis of what ? 2015 ? most recent big tournament was the Olympics. US did not win.
The biggest problem the US face is this desperation to focus on the result ONLY. Without looking at how we get there.
we have never won a u-17 WC. Why? We are not dominant at U-20 ? Why?
Probably because the players we produce at youth level are not close to being good enough. Yet miraculously by NT level we are (according to you) the best in the world. Why?
miraculous improvement of players? Im guessing its because we really aren't that good. We outlast other countries because of T9 and MONEY. The rest of the world have struggled to have a player pool, we have MILLIONS. We focus on making money from our players, the RoW try and make them better. They already do more with less.
To get to where we can, lets stop fooling ourselves that we are doing well. Lets be honest and accept that we have gotten complacent and lazy. Look at College soccer. The best players are not American - Macario, Fleming, Russo, Quinn.
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