USC, UCLA, Santa Clara

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I agree with above logic that MA can't keep up, but frankly, after a year of observing ECNL 02s, the Northeast hangs with any region. PDA won National Champs with an 4-0 run through playoffs and a 4-1 pounding LAFC Slammers in final. Same team couldn't win Northeast Conf tho.

Of the 4 NE teams in Champions League 3 won their brackets going undefeated (Stars, World Class, PDA), and across 12 matches there was only 1 loss (CFC) and 1 Tie (stars).

I think its that more West Coast families want to send their kids to East Coast colleges, and with the exception of Stanford, East Coast families don't view West Coast schools as superior to what's available within 200 miles of home

Agree that there are good East Coast teams and people prefer to send their kids close to home, especially if they hope to see some of their games. But a few things to point out:

1) You have to expand down to NY/NJ metros from the smaller New England region to get a comparable pool of players that you might find in CA. So yes, the Northeast ECNL with teams ranging from NH all the way down to MD can find some team that can occasionally beat a CA team.
2) ECNL is strong on the East Coast, but not as many clubs on West Coast. Probably 70+% of ECNL clubs are east of the Mississippi. More clubs in other leagues including DA out West.
3) A lot of the best CA schools are public schools which offer low or nearly free in-state tuition whereas the better schools here tend to be private. Hard to entice a top CA recruit to come East when their scholarship there is closer to a full ride. Harder still to come from East Coast and pay out-if-state tuition for a public CA school plus #4 below.
4) Most of CA is really expensive. You’ll be paying NYC prices for off-campus housing, transportation, etc. anywhere near a big metro like LA, SF, or San Diego. A lot of New England schools outside Boston itself are relatively cheap.

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As opposed to making life-impacting decisions when you're 14? No thanks. I'd rather kids be more mature, and so do the coaches and schools.

Obviously you haven't been through it then. Whether it happens at 14 or at 18 it is a pressure filled process no matter how you slice it. As a former high school teacher I can tell you that most kids struggle with selecting a college and 1-2 years more of maturity doesn't really change the outcome all that much. It's their first real big decision so of course some are going to struggle. They are not alone, I know plenty of adults who struggle making decisions. What these new rules do is compress the time frame and make it much harder to get clarity on who is actually interested in your kid. It's not the top level recruits that are going to feel the brunt of these changes, it's the next rung down and below. Those kids always had to wait for the first rung players to commit, at least before you had plenty of time to react if you found out you weren't the coaches top prospect. Now it will be like free agency with pro sports. The top free agents will be snapped up right at the clock strikes the appointed hour and then everyone is going to have to figure out what the opportunities are. It's only people who have never been through it think that this is actually a good thing.

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Maybe. You seem to feel strongly, and obviously speak from a point of experience.
Going through this now, I think it has been a good thing. It eliminates bird-in-hand pressure from early offers with clocks, gives all full understanding of her Academic Index and allows us offers to be considered on same time frame.

Earlier this academic year (jan) my '21 D was getting pressure to commit to some of her 2nd choice schools. Now she has AI banked, 4 more showings at showcases, and used 6/15 as an indicator on the college's level of interest (8a or 10p call). With official visits coming up I feel she will be able to make a much more informed decision.

You actually make the case. Before these rules you could get clarity on your kids situation at a much gentler pace. Now you will be left with very little time to sort things out because everyone will start sprinting to get their deal done. Human nature.

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Not a great comparison. There's very little $ in boys soccer. Plus, most of the "top" male players in this region are ending up at NESCACs, Ivies, etc. --- not necessarily the top 30 programs in the country.

For girls, the majority of the rosters for the top club teams are D1 recruits with scholarship $ to be pursued. We saw this with my D's roster; once the first couple of kids committed it became a race between the remaining parents to get their kids committed SOMEWHERE for some kind of $ so as not to be left out. It led to several families making choices they later regretted (e.g., aiming too high, taking the largest $ offer vs. the best fit, etc.). The pressure on the kids to make decisions was not just driven by the parents. My D often said that the players were constantly talking about it, asking each other what was going on, questioning why certain players hadn't made decisions yet, etc. It ramped up the pressure on those that were not ready or trying to manage their AI, etc. to just get it over with.

I don't know whether the new rules will help this dynamic very much. If families simply wait longer to get started figuring out where their kid might have the best collegiate experience, they'll be forced into a highly-compressed, very stressful decision cycle that may make them feel like they have a gun to their heads. That will really suck for most of the players that are in the middle of the top teams in club soccer. The situation for the studs will be largely unchanged, IMO, and the kids going Ivy/D3 will probably not change much either. The kids going to AAC, Big East, PL, Metro Atlantic, etc. will be in a real scramble.

From another thread. This describes the situation well. Their conclusion is right on target.

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From another thread. This describes the situation well. Their conclusion is right on target.

Conversely, in NJ and PA those guys are getting NT call ups and professional contracts in the states and around the world. MA isn't getting it done.

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Conversely, in NJ and PA those guys are getting NT call ups and professional contracts in the states and around the world. MA isn't getting it done.

What are you talking about. I just read a girl from NEFC got a tryout with Man U.

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What are you talking about. I just read a girl from NEFC got a tryout with Man U.

A tryout is just that. The state has a unicorn now and then but every few years at most. For the amount of angst in the state you'd think we were pumping out 15 NT players a year.

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What are you talking about. I just read a girl from NEFC got a tryout with Man U.

Yes, a goalie.

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From another thread. This describes the situation well. Their conclusion is right on target.

Ah, girl’s parents! Boys get plenty of $$.

Miles Robinson collected $200K last season from the MLS

Scott Caldwell getting a multi year deal with the Revs. Was making $125K/season.

Justin Rennicks just signed with the Revs


Meanwhile, Sam Mewis, fresh from her WWC victory, will hope to pull down the max NWSL salary of $46K. 😏

Bloody misandrists!

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Ah, girl’s parents! Boys get plenty of $$.

Miles Robinson collected $200K last season from the MLS

Scott Caldwell getting a multi year deal with the Revs. Was making $125K/season.

Justin Rennicks just signed with the Revs


Meanwhile, Sam Mewis, fresh from her WWC victory, will hope to pull down the max NWSL salary of $46K. 😏

Bloody misandrists!

ok, so how much does the u15 boys team get paid that kicked their ass?

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Ah, girl’s parents! Boys get plenty of $$.

Miles Robinson collected $200K last season from the MLS

Scott Caldwell getting a multi year deal with the Revs. Was making $125K/season.

Justin Rennicks just signed with the Revs


Meanwhile, Sam Mewis, fresh from her WWC victory, will hope to pull down the max NWSL salary of $46K. 😏

Bloody misandrists!

When Liz becomes President, your kid can go to UNC, UVA, or FSU for FREE, so all this scholarship nonsense goes away anyway.

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Ah, girl’s parents! Boys get plenty of $$.

Miles Robinson collected $200K last season from the MLS

Scott Caldwell getting a multi year deal with the Revs. Was making $125K/season.

Justin Rennicks just signed with the Revs


Meanwhile, Sam Mewis, fresh from her WWC victory, will hope to pull down the max NWSL salary of $46K. 😏

Bloody misandrists!

Wendy’s Store Mgr pulls down $47K/yr plus benefits. Maybe Sam should set her sights a bit higher.

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Ah, girl’s parents! Boys get plenty of $$.

Miles Robinson collected $200K last season from the MLS

Scott Caldwell getting a multi year deal with the Revs. Was making $125K/season.

Justin Rennicks just signed with the Revs


Meanwhile, Sam Mewis, fresh from her WWC victory, will hope to pull down the max NWSL salary of $46K. 😏

Bloody misandrists!

The above references ($200K, $125K) for male professional sports are embarrassing.

Jeesh, my D was offered more than that in college money guaranteed over 4 years and she'll have a degree at the end, along with similar swag - just with logos people recognize

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The above references ($200K, $125K) for male professional sports are embarrassing.

Jeesh, my D was offered more than that in college money guaranteed over 4 years and she'll have a degree at the end, along with similar swag - just with logos people recognize

Actually $50MM salaries are embarrassing, just like greedy CEO’s. No one needs that kind of salary. In Bernie’s socialist America, will have soccer communes. Everyone just making a living wage.

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Actually $50MM salaries are embarrassing, just like greedy CEO’s. No one needs that kind of salary. In Bernie’s socialist America, will have soccer communes. Everyone just making a living wage.

Big swing and a miss on the attempted political angle. You also might want to do a little reading on the differences between socialism and communism.