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so the point is that some subsidy is WORSE than none? You guys already have your agendas so pointless discussing. Bottom line is a lot of what the OP says is correct. GDA has flaws but so does ECNL. Just pick a league/club that makes your kid happy based on her ambition. The biggest issue i see in all of this is that there are more leagues than girls who really want to play soccer at a really high level. Its a social endeavor with potential for some college money - a passion for far too few girls and families to sustain a full time commitment (GDA) and ECNL etc.
The logic that the USSF have ignored is that as you move UP a pyramid, the numbers should get smaller. IF the plan was an elite league, then by definition, it should involve fewer players. If the GDA was a lot smaller and hand selected, no one would complain and all this would go away. The $$ would potentially go further and we could potentially make a real go of development for say 30 clubs.
As it is now, you need to get over the first hurdle of filling clubs and that has led to some really weak teams. There should be no waivers unless for special circumstances.
In the NE
SB-PDA, Fc Stars, 1 CT team, 1 of NYCFC or NYSC, 1 LI team, Penn Fusion, Breakers, Cedar Stars (?) Thats a league with reasonable travel and enough teams to assure some quality.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postso the point is that some subsidy is WORSE than none? You guys already have your agendas so pointless discussing. Bottom line is a lot of what the OP says is correct. GDA has flaws but so does ECNL. Just pick a league/club that makes your kid happy based on her ambition. The biggest issue i see in all of this is that there are more leagues than girls who really want to play soccer at a really high level. Its a social endeavor with potential for some college money - a passion for far too few girls and families to sustain a full time commitment (GDA) and ECNL etc.
The logic that the USSF have ignored is that as you move UP a pyramid, the numbers should get smaller. IF the plan was an elite league, then by definition, it should involve fewer players. If the GDA was a lot smaller and hand selected, no one would complain and all this would go away. The $$ would potentially go further and we could potentially make a real go of development for say 30 clubs.
As it is now, you need to get over the first hurdle of filling clubs and that has led to some really weak teams. There should be no waivers unless for special circumstances.
In the NE
SB-PDA, Fc Stars, 1 CT team, 1 of NYCFC or NYSC, 1 LI team, Penn Fusion, Breakers, Cedar Stars (?) Thats a league with reasonable travel and enough teams to assure some quality.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postso the point is that some subsidy is WORSE than none? You guys already have your agendas so pointless discussing. Bottom line is a lot of what the OP says is correct. GDA has flaws but so does ECNL. Just pick a league/club that makes your kid happy based on her ambition. The biggest issue i see in all of this is that there are more leagues than girls who really want to play soccer at a really high level. Its a social endeavor with potential for some college money - a passion for far too few girls and families to sustain a full time commitment (GDA) and ECNL etc.
The logic that the USSF have ignored is that as you move UP a pyramid, the numbers should get smaller. IF the plan was an elite league, then by definition, it should involve fewer players. If the GDA was a lot smaller and hand selected, no one would complain and all this would go away. The $$ would potentially go further and we could potentially make a real go of development for say 30 clubs.
As it is now, you need to get over the first hurdle of filling clubs and that has led to some really weak teams. There should be no waivers unless for special circumstances.
In the NE
SB-PDA, Fc Stars, 1 CT team, 1 of NYCFC or NYSC, 1 LI team, Penn Fusion, Breakers, Cedar Stars (?) Thats a league with reasonable travel and enough teams to assure some quality.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postthat's my primary beef - it's not elite. In fact it's gigantic when you consider who USSF really cares about and what little good it does for those truly elite players (if you're NT material but the rest of your team or competition is anything but, how does that make you a better player?). After ten years on the boys side you'd think they would get that. I hold little hope that it will make a significant impact to soccer. In the meantime the environment is more chaotic than ever and players are caught in the middle. They needed too many clubs and players to fill openings and the difference in quality top to bottom is stark, much more so than in other leagues. The fact that USSF does things like make us all change to calendar year, yet now lets younger players actually play DOWN shows they are very much a "Do as I say, not as I do" organization. With so little credibility it makes it difficult to get behind it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postthat's my primary beef - it's not elite. In fact it's gigantic when you consider who USSF really cares about and what little good it does for those truly elite players (if you're NT material but the rest of your team or competition is anything but, how does that make you a better player?). After ten years on the boys side you'd think they would get that. I hold little hope that it will make a significant impact to soccer. In the meantime the environment is more chaotic than ever and players are caught in the middle. They needed too many clubs and players to fill openings and the difference in quality top to bottom is stark, much more so than in other leagues. The fact that USSF does things like make us all change to calendar year, yet now lets younger players actually play DOWN shows they are very much a "Do as I say, not as I do" organization. With so little credibility it makes it difficult to get behind it.
Bitch, Bitch, Bitch.....
So tell us, Mr. Critic, what would you have them do?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBitch, Bitch, Bitch.....
So tell us, Mr. Critic, what would you have them do?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSince the op complained that it's too big and not elite enough there's a place to start. I would add USSF put more $ towards significant scholarships, not just tokens, to take the financial burden off clubs. Get rid of some of the cra! clubs too
How will the USSF fund this proposed increase in scholarships? What would be an acceptable thresh hold for you?
How do you determine a "cra! club"? What would be the process you use to make this determination? How would your replace a cra! club that sits in any specific region?
I'm fascinated to hear how you will solve this.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSince the op complained that it's too big and not elite enough there's a place to start. I would add USSF put more $ towards significant scholarships, not just tokens, to take the financial burden off clubs. Get rid of some of the cra! clubs too
If the easy money goes away maybe will lose some good coaches but also thing we will weed out those who are here for the easy money.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOkay... what will clubs do with that extra money once the burden has been lifted? Silent fundraising for field while raiding operation budget. Which leads to things like cramming too many team on one field. Or further covering the expenses of your parallel private for profit gold mine.
If the easy money goes away maybe will lose some good coaches but also thing we will weed out those who are here for the easy money.
Again, where do the funds come from that will lift the burden? Will the USSF simply print money?
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