Time to clean house

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Consider this as potentially a " market correction " and perhaps sanity may be restored in the lower tiers.

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Consider this as potentially a " market correction " and perhaps sanity may be restored in the lower tiers.

I don't think so. the lower tiers don't care about professional soccer here. They never got their kids into the sport because of that. Professional soccer just doesn't rate in the US.

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I don't think so. the lower tiers don't care about professional soccer here. They never got their kids into the sport because of that. Professional soccer just doesn't rate in the US.

Really ? After the US Women won their first world cup there was an incredible expansion in participation all the way up through the College level.

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FOX will not be losing much money because the US is not there. No expects them to make it out of the group stages anyways. The big money is during the elimination rounds. Not having Messi there would have been disastrous but somehow he single handedly pulled it off.

has the US ever had anyone even remotely as good as Messi ever? (serious question). As good as Pulisic is, where does he fall in the Messi spectrum?

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has the US ever had anyone even remotely as good as Messi ever? (serious question). As good as Pulisic is, where does he fall in the Messi spectrum?

CP's development is an outlier and a poor example of DA success. We're not sending that many more players abroad than ten years ago; a few unicorns make it in the top leagues abroad that's all. MLS certainly isn't an aspiration for international players; we get the guys who want to retire in two years. US DA players are getting beaten out for college roster spots by international academy rejects.

As for Messi - a true unicorn, even more so with his small stature. People claim he'd never have made it here, that he'd be ignored because of his size, which I disagree with (that's a level of talent no one can touch). But would he have become the player he is now if he had lived here? No way. Not even close. He is who he is because of genetics, growing up in a soccer culture and moving to Spain.

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Bruce Arena resigns

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Bruce Arena resigns

that fat arse should have never been hired to begin with

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that fat arse should have never been hired to begin with

Totally agreed, but now more turmoil at a time it isn't needed

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Totally agreed, but now more turmoil at a time it isn't needed

Turmoil? There's nothing to Coach. Qualifying is over and no World Cup

All there will be to Coach are a few friendlies against teams going to World Cup. That will be a great time for a new coach to bring new blood into the team

Besides this was expected as he contract ends with World Cup. Our World Cup is over

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i don't think so. The lower tiers don't care about professional soccer here. They never got their kids into the sport because of that. Professional soccer just doesn't rate in the us.

#fakenews

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has the US ever had anyone even remotely as good as Messi ever? (serious question). As good as Pulisic is, where does he fall in the Messi spectrum?

There are probably far more than 100 guys that were Messi over only a year's time and most of their names they still do not know ...... do it for 5 or 10 years.

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CP's development is an outlier and a poor example of DA success. We're not sending that many more players abroad than ten years ago; a few unicorns make it in the top leagues abroad that's all. MLS certainly isn't an aspiration for international players; we get the guys who want to retire in two years. US DA players are getting beaten out for college roster spots by international academy rejects.

As for Messi - a true unicorn, even more so with his small stature. People claim he'd never have made it here, that he'd be ignored because of his size, which I disagree with (that's a level of talent no one can touch). But would he have become the player he is now if he had lived here? No way. Not even close. He is who he is because of genetics, growing up in a soccer culture and moving to Spain.

He would be a mason with his dad's business if he lived in the US.

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No sir you are clueless.
We have residences but you knew that right? So hows it working for us ? Redbulls don't have one but yet their Academy seems to be numero uno, so they gotta be doing something right don't you think?
The main purpose of the Academy should be is to promote better training and competition along with easier identification for "Future" MNT players, unfortunately the country is way to large on a landscape to seek them all out.
Right now this thing is going in all directions with no one at the wheel , that idiot Sunil don't know shat about Football.
For example the MLS clubs are grabbing their own to sign with no chance for them to get real training outside of the country. The MLS believes they can create a BPL type league where the worlds top players will come to the US like England but what we are getting is retired and some washed up stars. The NoN MLS Academies hold bragging rights with college commitments and who they beat last week in the league, it's a complete mess with no direction but yet everyone in the program complains with whose doing it wrong.
I think that The Academy division should completely separate themselves from the MNT and what I mean by that is identifying Academy players to move up to the MNT is premature we should work more on getting them overseas , no one cares what they do in MLS we really are concerned what our MNT does and it's results to success.

You are exactly right. The best thing that could happen would be for some of the top European clubs to invest in academies here in the US. The top players would then move to the home country and move up the ladder there. There simply is not enough $$ in MLS to develop a strong league which in turn would pull in more US players.

Take a look at Argentina, Brazil and Chile. Where do their top players play?