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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    No, this person thinks the only "sports" are the original olympic sports, running wrestling, archery, discus, one or two others, but logic fails when it comes to equestrian sports that were original olympic sports.

    I am trying to put an end to what will be a long drawn out trolling session by the guy with the 9 year old pugilist; please don't bite, it gets boring quick.
    Aah, got it.

    Didn't know the poster was stuck in the old Olympiad.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Aah, got it.

      Didn't know the poster was stuck in the old Olympiad.
      Yes. Ulysses over here thinks only competitions from 3000 years ago are sports.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        FOOTBALL = Game
        HOCKEY = Game
        Baseball = Game

        You are entering a league way above your ability of comprehension.

        In a real Sport like Track & Field the best athletes are determined by who crosses the finish line 1st, without discretion, with no argument, it is what it is. In Track & Field you earn your placement.

        Now lets take soccer, referees discretion on rules? many times the better teams lose on BS calls, many times really good kids don't get selected to play on high level teams because of a coaches discretion and/or personality conflicts!!!!?????....total BS.

        Many, many times and lets think deeply on this....What makes soccer exciting is to see what call the referee is going to make and often times blow the game.....too many discrestionary calls, too much political BS involved with football, soccer, basketball and baseball to be considered a real sport!!!!....it is however a most beautiful game as a very famous futballer once said
        Soooo, here's the problem with this summary. In very competitive matches, those who cross the finish line, in particular in sprints, 1st, 2nd and 3rd are not always clear to the human eye. I have seen races where the incorrect person was awarded 1st because the time was correct but the human eye could not see who crossed first because it was that close.

        NCAA and top competition USATF for instance use replay and digital timing because of the confusion that the human eye can not capture - (F.A.T. - fully automated timing system). An athlete can be beat if someone leans ahead of him/her at the finish line (which is why you see most runners lean/stretch at the end of a tight race). And why sometimes the awarding of the places may not be correct. You are talking about finishing in a flash.

        Track realizes that it's virtually impossible to get it right all the time under these circumstances.

        Old school was smoke was when you hit your watch not the sound of the starting gun, because the speed of sound vs. the speed of sight. If you are manually timing, you go by the smoke or muzzle flash, not the sound. Sound travels about 1 mile every 5 seconds. for a 100 m race, the timers are about 1/16 of a mile from the start. That means it will take about .3 seconds for the sound to get from the start line to the timers at the finish.

        With the FAT equipment, it's tied directly to the starter gun and all of the races start at the same time so there is no confusion and no need to watch smoke instead of listening to sound. The runners leave their mark on the sound because they are not looking at the starter pistol.

        Also, you still need the human eye to make sure relay batons transfer in the fly zones, no one crosses into another lane to interfere (the runners can be moving so quickly in the turns that centrifugal force/physics can actually move the runner into another lane).

        There's your T&F lesson. It's subject to human error as well. All sports are subject to human error in officiating. Part of "the game."

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          #19
          Different rules?

          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Soooo, here's the problem with this summary. In very competitive matches, those who cross the finish line, in particular in sprints, 1st, 2nd and 3rd are not always clear to the human eye. I have seen races where the incorrect person was awarded 1st because the time was correct but the human eye could not see who crossed first because it was that close.

          NCAA and top competition USATF for instance use replay and digital timing because of the confusion that the human eye can not capture - (F.A.T. - fully automated timing system). An athlete can be beat if someone leans ahead of him/her at the finish line (which is why you see most runners lean/stretch at the end of a tight race). And why sometimes the awarding of the places may not be correct. You are talking about finishing in a flash.

          Track realizes that it's virtually impossible to get it right all the time under these circumstances.

          Old school was smoke was when you hit your watch not the sound of the starting gun, because the speed of sound vs. the speed of sight. If you are manually timing, you go by the smoke or muzzle flash, not the sound. Sound travels about 1 mile every 5 seconds. for a 100 m race, the timers are about 1/16 of a mile from the start. That means it will take about .3 seconds for the sound to get from the start line to the timers at the finish.

          With the FAT equipment, it's tied directly to the starter gun and all of the races start at the same time so there is no confusion and no need to watch smoke instead of listening to sound. The runners leave their mark on the sound because they are not looking at the starter pistol.

          Also, you still need the human eye to make sure relay batons transfer in the fly zones, no one crosses into another lane to interfere (the runners can be moving so quickly in the turns that centrifugal force/physics can actually move the runner into another lane).

          There's your T&F lesson. It's subject to human error as well. All sports are subject to human error in officiating. Part of "the game."
          Sorry buddy, in Track you have the speakers of the gun blast right behind you on the starting blocks....the finish line has laser tech. you may know all about the discretionary rules about soccer....as far as the simpleness of running a race and catching who comes in first.....you are dumb as a rock.

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            #20
            Different rules?

            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Sorry buddy, in Track you have the speakers of the gun blast right behind you on the starting blocks....the finish line has laser tech. you may know all about the discretionary rules about soccer....as far as the simpleness of running a race and catching who comes in first.....you are dumb as a rock.
            Its great that in a real sport like track and field they see the importance of getting it right so they implement tech. speakers at the starting blocks and laser precision at the finish line when races are that close....since some of you are complaining that real sports are only done 3000 years ago? where does that put soccer with virtually no improvements with officiating over the last 150 years!!!!!!!! these "games" are obviously not that important if they cant even do a video review.....Oh goal line tech only? thats it? refs have to much power and are either compromised (swayed) in a game and/or just human....

            What is the excuse of pro soccer as a sport when the best players are not selected because either coach does not like the athlete personally?, or weaker kids parents coauged up some cash?, politics? happens all the time....At Least in GOLF....its all Math that determines the best player (personall issues and discretion and politics are not factors in GOLF).

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              At Least in GOLF....its all Math that determines the best player (personall issues and discretion and politics are not factors in GOLF).
              Golf is individualistic, so therefore you are correct it comes down to math.

              Of course, we do have the Ryder Cup, which is a team game...and politics do come into play there.

              Same with Track & Field events. Individual sports and easy to tell who makes it and who does. But, when you have relay races...politics do come into to play.

              As Mel Allen would say: "HowaaahBOUT that?"

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                #22
                Different rules?

                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Golf is individualistic, so therefore you are correct it comes down to math.

                Of course, we do have the Ryder Cup, which is a team game...and politics do come into play there.

                Same with Track & Field events. Individual sports and easy to tell who makes it and who does. But, when you have relay races...politics do come into to play.

                As Mel Allen would say: "HowaaahBOUT that?"
                The best consistent players make the ryder cup team....Thats math.
                The Relay teams consist of the athletes with the fastest times in the individual races...Also MATH.

                as you talk about your mel allen says this/or that... I say "STONE COLD JUST WHOPPED YOUR _SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Sorry buddy, in Track you have the speakers of the gun blast right behind you on the starting blocks....the finish line has laser tech. you may know all about the discretionary rules about soccer....as far as the simpleness of running a race and catching who comes in first.....you are dumb as a rock.
                  Hey Moron...or rock. You obviously didn't understand what the poster noted. The speakers and laser you are noting is the FAT technology the poster noted. The laser at the finish line gets the time correctly but not necessarily the lane/place. Photos are take to see the winners in the tight races. Like horseracing.

                  Hahaha...the science (Speed of sound vs. speed of sight) was beyond your comprehension. I hope you don't sprain anything keyboarding. dufus

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                    #24
                    Different rules?

                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    No, this person thinks the only "sports" are the original olympic sports, running wrestling, archery, discus, one or two others, but logic fails when it comes to equestrian sports that were original olympic sports.

                    I am trying to put an end to what will be a long drawn out trolling session by the guy with the 9 year old pugilist; please don't bite, it gets boring quick.

                    a "pugilist"? I did not know we have the honor of having Earnest f_cking Hemingway on this forum!!!!!!!.....regardless your love for the "most beautiful game" makes you blind to exactly what is is...a game. "Love is Blind" as they say.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The best consistent players make the ryder cup team....Thats math.
                      The Relay teams consist of the athletes with the fastest times in the individual races...Also MATH.

                      as you talk about your mel allen says this/or that... I say "STONE COLD JUST WHOPPED YOUR _SS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      Aaah, nope. Lots of times there are individuals in these EVENTS who aren't taken based on math alone. Low scores in golf aren't selected if you aren't great in match play. Relay races don't take the fastest 100M runners in the 4x100 always; sometimes they are only fast in a straight line or have a personality conflict with other team members.

                      Li'l hint for you Ulysses...typing in caps doesn't make something true.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        stupidest thing i ever heard!!!!!!
                        I've seen that called. Only if they think the player was intentionally shielding the view of the goalie.

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                          #27
                          Different rules?

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Aaah, nope. Lots of times there are individuals in these EVENTS who aren't taken based on math alone. Low scores in golf aren't selected if you aren't great in match play. Relay races don't take the fastest 100M runners in the 4x100 always; sometimes they are only fast in a straight line or have a personality conflict with other team members.

                          Li'l hint for you Ulysses...typing in caps doesn't make something true.
                          tell that too CNN and CBS....FAKE NEWS you you yuppy F_GGOT!!!!!!!!!

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                            #28
                            LOL

                            The rantings of an unhinged lunatic make for great fodder on a Wednesday morning...

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                              #29
                              Different rules?

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              No, this person thinks the only "sports" are the original olympic sports, running wrestling, archery, discus, one or two others, but logic fails when it comes to equestrian sports that were original olympic sports.

                              I am trying to put an end to what will be a long drawn out trolling session by the guy with the 9 year old pugilist; please don't bite, it gets boring quick.
                              its funny to see you soccer geeks try and justify soccer being anything more than just a beautiful game for your own pathetic justification. (similar to a democrap blindly ignoring the great job DT is doing because of blind, unfounded reasoning).

                              The devils greatest trick is making the world believe he does not exist....democraps are so gullible.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                its funny to see you soccer geeks try and justify soccer being anything more than just a beautiful game for your own pathetic justification. (similar to a democrap blindly ignoring the great job DT is doing because of blind, unfounded reasoning).

                                No numbnuts. We are laughing because you take this so seriously and are so fired up about it.

                                That's where the humor is.

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