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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    OW was a great club 20 years ago when DF and RD were actually relatively young. Their club has aged poorly. They have 0 ability to adapt with the times.
    Same can be said about BS. Failure to see where the market was going, laziness/unwillingness to change with it - or a combination of all. Yes they got DA badges but it takes more than that to become a true destination club.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Obviously that isn't always an option because of geography. More importantly it points to one of the biggest issues with DA - too much variability in quality across clubs. Not all MLS clubs are weak but many are. MLS clubs would like to split off but USSF won't allow it and the US geography means they have to keep dreaming.
      Actually, most MLS clubs are very strong, few are very weak.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Actually, most MLS clubs are very strong, few are very weak.
        That's the issue - the growing divide between MLS and non MLS. Many MLS programs are investing heavily, even starting residential programs and will continue to get stronger (Revs excepted ). Some non MLS clubs can hang with MLS clubs but many cannot. Our two state clubs are prime examples. In order to make travel manageable they have to allow in many clubs that really shouldn't be there. They serve a geographic purpose

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          That's the issue - the growing divide between MLS and non MLS. Many MLS programs are investing heavily, even starting residential programs and will continue to get stronger (Revs excepted ). Some non MLS clubs can hang with MLS clubs but many cannot. Our two state clubs are prime examples. In order to make travel manageable they have to allow in many clubs that really shouldn't be there. They serve a geographic purpose
          I think it is quite remarkable that BS and OW can remain somewhat competitive versus the MLS academies, given the following:

          1) MLS academies are free to play and BS and OW are not.

          2) If BS or OW develop a unicorn, the unicorn will quickly find its way to MLS academies or overseas academies. That is the natural progression - BS has passed along numerous players to NYCFC as example.

          Conclusion: you can bash BS and OW all you want, but given the operating environment they are both faced with, they actually do quite well!

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I think it is quite remarkable that BS and OW can remain somewhat competitive versus the MLS academies, given the following:

            1) MLS academies are free to play and BS and OW are not.

            2) If BS or OW develop a unicorn, the unicorn will quickly find its way to MLS academies or overseas academies. That is the natural progression - BS has passed along numerous players to NYCFC as example.

            Conclusion: you can bash BS and OW all you want, but given the operating environment they are both faced with, they actually do quite well!
            Kool-aid alert

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I think it is quite remarkable that BS and OW can remain somewhat competitive versus the MLS academies, given the following:

              1) MLS academies are free to play and BS and OW are not.

              2) If BS or OW develop a unicorn, the unicorn will quickly find its way to MLS academies or overseas academies. That is the natural progression - BS has passed along numerous players to NYCFC as example.

              Conclusion: you can bash BS and OW all you want, but given the operating environment they are both faced with, they actually do quite well!
              When you have to add qualifiers, they aren’t doing that well. Fair play to BSC, one of their former players is going to Stanford. Their college placements are better than OW’s.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I think it is quite remarkable that BS and OW can remain somewhat competitive versus the MLS academies, given the following:

                1) MLS academies are free to play and BS and OW are not.

                2) If BS or OW develop a unicorn, the unicorn will quickly find its way to MLS academies or overseas academies. That is the natural progression - BS has passed along numerous players to NYCFC as example.

                Conclusion: you can bash BS and OW all you want, but given the operating environment they are both faced with, they actually do quite well!
                Without the ability to retain top players and offer free-to-play, BS and OW will always be second tier clubs in the DA. Is this such a surprise? Not to me.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  When you have to add qualifiers, they aren’t doing that well. Fair play to BSC, one of their former players is going to Stanford. Their college placements are better than OW’s.
                  TS (the Stanford kid) started at BS, then when to Bradenton/u17 National Team, and when he came back he went to NYCFC DA. Kid is a pro prospect, so BS was not the right place for him anymore. Kudos to BS for getting the kid on his way......

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    When you have to add qualifiers, they aren’t doing that well. Fair play to BSC, one of their former players is going to Stanford. Their college placements are better than OW’s.
                    BS and OW are solid college prep programs....any NT or pro prospects they develop move on up the food chain pretty quickly.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I think it is quite remarkable that BS and OW can remain somewhat competitive versus the MLS academies, given the following:

                      1) MLS academies are free to play and BS and OW are not.

                      2) If BS or OW develop a unicorn, the unicorn will quickly find its way to MLS academies or overseas academies. That is the natural progression - BS has passed along numerous players to NYCFC as example.

                      Conclusion: you can bash BS and OW all you want, but given the operating environment they are both faced with, they actually do quite well!
                      All is true except for your conclusion...

                      BS and Ow

                      - mainly play the older side of the age groupings
                      - recruit outside talent at beginning and middle of year consistently
                      - compete against six non MLS academies
                      - only have one team in contention for a playoff spot and that is tenuous at best.

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                        #41
                        And yet any Ow or bs team u15 and older would smack any non da team in ct.

                        You people are basically saying that Ow and bs are 2nd tier clubs in the da right? Think about that for a second........For a tiny club from ct to be considered in the top 30-50 club’s in the country is amazing. Open your eyes people.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          And yet any Ow or bs team u15 and older would smack any non da team in ct.

                          You people are basically saying that Ow and bs are 2nd tier clubs in the da right? Think about that for a second........For a tiny club from ct to be considered in the top 30-50 club’s in the country is amazing. Open your eyes people.
                          Not sure of that it's a given that they would beat non DA teams in CT. You realize that they have lost in scrimmages before.

                          Yet they recruit players from non DA teams

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            And yet any Ow or bs team u15 and older would smack any non da team in ct.

                            You people are basically saying that Ow and bs are 2nd tier clubs in the da right? Think about that for a second........For a tiny club from ct to be considered in the top 30-50 club’s in the country is amazing. Open your eyes people.

                            Please tell us how they are in the top 30 or even top 50 of ALL clubs in the country, considering there are several great non DA clubs out there as well?

                            OW 15's = 10th of 11 teams in their region
                            U16/17=5th not in contention for playoffs currently
                            U18/19 4th - wildcard for playoffs/still TBD

                            for comparison -

                            BS 15's 6th
                            U16/17 8th
                            U18/19 8th

                            Both is a weak region with really only one serious MLS club, Montreal, since the Revs have continued to suck

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              And yet any Ow or bs team u15 and older would smack any non da team in ct.

                              You people are basically saying that Ow and bs are 2nd tier clubs in the da right? Think about that for a second........For a tiny club from ct to be considered in the top 30-50 club’s in the country is amazing. Open your eyes people.
                              Top 30-50?? Youre a clown

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Top 30-50?? Youre a clown
                                3rd in CT. 50 states. Some with lots of clubs, some with few. Fair to say OW is in the top 150 or close to it. Well done OW!

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