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Originally posted by I put my name on it View PostFSPL used to be the best thing FYSA ever did, now it is a complete joke (especially in the U16 and above). Scheduling MANDATORY PLAY DATES that conflict with college showcases mean the teams with the best talent will opt out (like they did this year) as the goal is exposure to college coaches. Look at the U19's, there is ONE quality team there, Coral Estates. The rest are rec team jokes. #2 Charges just got whipped at IMG and Leg-A-Z can't compete outside of the watered down FSPL.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThen get off your behind and do something about it! Call the state office, talk to people that can make the decisions, or get involved with FYSA on a volunteer basis. There are so many things you can be doing to help. Be part of the solution, not the problem.
I sent NUMEROUS emails to FYSA when they mucked up FSPL this year and explained that their heavy handed policy was contradictory to the needs of the older boys teams. I was politely told to F off. The play dates conflicted with 3 MAJOR college showcases. Why would a U16-U19 team opt out of college showcases to play FSPL games? Got a clue for you, they didn't.
Only after the top teams in the state withdrew from FSPL did FYSA acquiesce and allow ONE weekend of games to get rescheduled. Still unacceptable.
FYSA is arrogant, and fails to realize who their customer is. FYSA is NOT the customer, they are the business. It is the teams and clubs that are the customers of FYSA and they should be focused on their needs and not the needs of the FYSA.
So, I take the approach of FYSA in regards to you without the niceties; F off.
Don't even make it appear that FYSA is responsive to suggestions-they are not. It is not a lack of communication from teams/clubs or a lack of volunteers that leads to the problem. It is a self-inflicted wound on FYSA arising solely from their arrogance and ignorance.Last edited by I put my name on it; 03-07-2018, 10:05 AM.
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Originally posted by I put my name on it View PostDon't assume.
I sent NUMEROUS emails to FYSA when they mucked up FSPL this year and explained that their heavy handed policy was contradictory to the needs of the older boys teams. I was politely told to F off. The play dates conflicted with 3 MAJOR college showcases. Why would a U16-U19 team opt out of college showcases to play FSPL games? Got a clue for you, they didn't.
Only after the top teams in the state withdrew from FSPL did FYSA acquiesce and allow ONE weekend of games to get rescheduled. Still unacceptable.
FYSA is arrogant, and fails to realize who their customer is. FYSA is NOT the customer, they are the business. It is the teams and clubs that are the customers of FYSA and they should be focused on their needs and not the needs of the FYSA.
So, I take the approach of FYSA in regards to you without the niceties; F off.
Don't even make it appear that FYSA is responsive to suggestions-they are not. It is not a lack of communication from teams/clubs or a lack of volunteers that leads to the problem. It is a self-inflicted wound on FYSA arising solely from their arrogance and ignorance.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSomeone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning...
I don't like FYSA coming on here and spewing their BS and shifting blame on others. Telling me to get off my behind? Talk to the decision makers? Volunteer? How about the people that are PAID to run the business run it effectively instead of being buffoons? How about the people who are PAID to run the business listen and be responsive to the needs of their customers?
Don't believe for a minute they aren't on here trying to anonymously defend themselves as if they are a disinterested third party.
BTW, about midway thru the season FYSA became much more flexible about rescheduling games. They may be slow learners, but perhaps they can still learn something. We'll see how they handle FSPL next year and whether it is too late to save the only state-wide league with relegation (the component most lacking in US soccer), or if ECNL, ENPL, and FSPL so disperse the talented teams that you cannot adequately develop players going forward. You hone steel with steel, and the steel in soccer is top competition and an advanced pace of play. If leagues only have 2-3 top teams and the rest are cannon fodder, there is no steel upon which to hone.
For the record: I LOVED FSPL in years past and I respected FYSA for creating it. They allowed it to become slightly diluted when they replaced the top teams that were promoted to R3PL/SRPL/National League with lesser quality teams. It would have been better to have 12-14 top teams in a league rather than subjectively promoting teams that got knocked out in Round 2 of the previous year's State Cup, just to have 16 teams. But their policy on rescheduling this year was just asinine and could very well destroy the league.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBest way to do it would be make each of the groups of four in the Rd of 32 as follows:
One of the 8 Seeded Teams
One of 13 Group Winners
One of the 11 WildCards
The fourth spot would have to be either another group winner or wildcard team to fill out the bracket.
Any other way is ridiculous!
Process:
Line up Seeded teams #1 through #8
Line up the Group winners, A through M
Line up Wildcard winner #1 through #11
Put the Seeded teams in the groups in order #1 through #8. (FYSA already got this right)
Fill in Group Winners A through M down and then back up (Like a snake draft).
Then do a "Snake Draft" order to fill in the Wildcards #1 through #11 in the remaining open spots.
Benefits:
A) The seeded teams are already rewarded by skipping round 1
B) The seeded teams are also rewarded by not having to play each other in Round of 32
C) The top 3 seeded teams only have to face one Group Winner from Round 1
B) No group in the Round of 32 has the silly situation where a wildcard team will be guaranteed to advance.
Group #1
Miramar (1 Seed)
Group A Winner
Wildcard #11
Wildcard #1
Group #2
Tallahassee (2 Seed)
Group B Winner
Wildcard #10
Wildcard #2
Group #3
Ives Estates Black (3 Seed)
Group C Winner
Wildcard #9
Wildcard #3
Group #4
Gulf Coast Texans (4 Seed)
Group D Winner
Group M Winner
Wildcard #8
Group #5
Florida Rush 1 Boys (5 Seed)
Group E Winner
Group L Winner
Wildcard #7
Group #6
Team Boca Sabr (6 Seed)
Group F Winner
Group K Winner
Wildcard #6
Group #7
Doral While (7 Seed)
Group G Winner
Group J Winner
Wildcard #5
Group #8
Weston (8 Seed)
Group H Winner
Group I Winner
Wildcard #4
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHere's a process for a much more balanced set of groups for the Round of 32 for the 2002 Boys. There are many ways to skin this cat that are much better than the existing published schedule for Round of 32. (Not to mention that the schedule has already been changed once since it was originally published).
Process:
Line up Seeded teams #1 through #8
Line up the Group winners, A through M
Line up Wildcard winner #1 through #11
Put the Seeded teams in the groups in order #1 through #8. (FYSA already got this right)
Fill in Group Winners A through M down and then back up (Like a snake draft).
Then do a "Snake Draft" order to fill in the Wildcards #1 through #11 in the remaining open spots.
Benefits:
A) The seeded teams are already rewarded by skipping round 1
B) The seeded teams are also rewarded by not having to play each other in Round of 32
C) The top 3 seeded teams only have to face one Group Winner from Round 1
B) No group in the Round of 32 has the silly situation where a wildcard team will be guaranteed to advance.
Group #1
Miramar (1 Seed)
Group A Winner
Wildcard #11
Wildcard #1
Group #2
Tallahassee (2 Seed)
Group B Winner
Wildcard #10
Wildcard #2
Group #3
Ives Estates Black (3 Seed)
Group C Winner
Wildcard #9
Wildcard #3
Group #4
Gulf Coast Texans (4 Seed)
Group D Winner
Group M Winner
Wildcard #8
Group #5
Florida Rush 1 Boys (5 Seed)
Group E Winner
Group L Winner
Wildcard #7
Group #6
Team Boca Sabr (6 Seed)
Group F Winner
Group K Winner
Wildcard #6
Group #7
Doral While (7 Seed)
Group G Winner
Group J Winner
Wildcard #5
Group #8
Weston (8 Seed)
Group H Winner
Group I Winner
Wildcard #4
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Originally posted by I put my name on it View PostWhat can I say? I am a curmudgeon.
I don't like FYSA coming on here and spewing their BS and shifting blame on others. Telling me to get off my behind? Talk to the decision makers? Volunteer? How about the people that are PAID to run the business run it effectively instead of being buffoons? How about the people who are PAID to run the business listen and be responsive to the needs of their customers?
Don't believe for a minute they aren't on here trying to anonymously defend themselves as if they are a disinterested third party.
BTW, about midway thru the season FYSA became much more flexible about rescheduling games. They may be slow learners, but perhaps they can still learn something. We'll see how they handle FSPL next year and whether it is too late to save the only state-wide league with relegation (the component most lacking in US soccer), or if ECNL, ENPL, and FSPL so disperse the talented teams that you cannot adequately develop players going forward. You hone steel with steel, and the steel in soccer is top competition and an advanced pace of play. If leagues only have 2-3 top teams and the rest are cannon fodder, there is no steel upon which to hone.
For the record: I LOVED FSPL in years past and I respected FYSA for creating it. They allowed it to become slightly diluted when they replaced the top teams that were promoted to R3PL/SRPL/National League with lesser quality teams. It would have been better to have 12-14 top teams in a league rather than subjectively promoting teams that got knocked out in Round 2 of the previous year's State Cup, just to have 16 teams. But their policy on rescheduling this year was just asinine and could very well destroy the league.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postlol, are you still going to be here next year after your WFF kid graduates, or will you still be emailing FYSA and making these predictions with your time. For the record, anyone on this site is a little sad, yes i know, but you take it to a whole new level of sad man
And I will be done soon on TALKING SOCCER.
Why did my FSPL predictions in previous seasons upset you so? I think most would think that I was "talking soccer" on a web site designed for just such a purpose.
If there is anything more sad than being on this site, it would be taking the time to read all the posts and criticize others. THAT is pathetic.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postlol, are you still going to be here next year after your WFF kid graduates, or will you still be emailing FYSA and making these predictions with your time. For the record, anyone on this site is a little sad, yes i know, but you take it to a whole new level of sad man
For 2 or 3 seasons, you only made snarky, personal attacks as an anonymous coward.
I'll stand by my record over that of a sniping weasel, and I think most reading this site would back my contributions over yours.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou have WAAAAY too much free time on your hands. It's kid soccer. Relax.
Besides, kids soccer is important to me! My husband is never home. The PTO kicked me out. Other than pickleball, what else am I gonna do? I don't even have a kid in soccer anymore.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHere's a process for a much more balanced set of groups for the Round of 32 for the 2002 Boys. There are many ways to skin this cat that are much better than the existing published schedule for Round of 32. (Not to mention that the schedule has already been changed once since it was originally published).
Process:
Line up Seeded teams #1 through #8
Line up the Group winners, A through M
Line up Wildcard winner #1 through #11
Put the Seeded teams in the groups in order #1 through #8. (FYSA already got this right)
Fill in Group Winners A through M down and then back up (Like a snake draft).
Then do a "Snake Draft" order to fill in the Wildcards #1 through #11 in the remaining open spots.
Benefits:
A) The seeded teams are already rewarded by skipping round 1
B) The seeded teams are also rewarded by not having to play each other in Round of 32
C) The top 3 seeded teams only have to face one Group Winner from Round 1
B) No group in the Round of 32 has the silly situation where a wildcard team will be guaranteed to advance.
Group #1
Miramar (1 Seed)
Group A Winner
Wildcard #11
Wildcard #1
Group #2
Tallahassee (2 Seed)
Group B Winner
Wildcard #10
Wildcard #2
Group #3
Ives Estates Black (3 Seed)
Group C Winner
Wildcard #9
Wildcard #3
Group #4
Gulf Coast Texans (4 Seed)
Group D Winner
Group M Winner
Wildcard #8
Group #5
Florida Rush 1 Boys (5 Seed)
Group E Winner
Group L Winner
Wildcard #7
Group #6
Team Boca Sabr (6 Seed)
Group F Winner
Group K Winner
Wildcard #6
Group #7
Doral While (7 Seed)
Group G Winner
Group J Winner
Wildcard #5
Group #8
Weston (8 Seed)
Group H Winner
Group I Winner
Wildcard #4
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt took about 15 minutes to put this together.
Besides, kids soccer is important to me! My husband is never home. The PTO kicked me out. Other than pickleball, what else am I gonna do? I don't even have a kid in soccer anymore.
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You might be a wizard as the brackets were changed today to very close to this post.
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHere's a process for a much more balanced set of groups for the Round of 32 for the 2002 Boys. There are many ways to skin this cat that are much better than the existing published schedule for Round of 32. (Not to mention that the schedule has already been changed once since it was originally published).
Process:
Line up Seeded teams #1 through #8
Line up the Group winners, A through M
Line up Wildcard winner #1 through #11
Put the Seeded teams in the groups in order #1 through #8. (FYSA already got this right)
Fill in Group Winners A through M down and then back up (Like a snake draft).
Then do a "Snake Draft" order to fill in the Wildcards #1 through #11 in the remaining open spots.
Benefits:
A) The seeded teams are already rewarded by skipping round 1
B) The seeded teams are also rewarded by not having to play each other in Round of 32
C) The top 3 seeded teams only have to face one Group Winner from Round 1
B) No group in the Round of 32 has the silly situation where a wildcard team will be guaranteed to advance.
Group #1
Miramar (1 Seed)
Group A Winner
Wildcard #11
Wildcard #1
Group #2
Tallahassee (2 Seed)
Group B Winner
Wildcard #10
Wildcard #2
Group #3
Ives Estates Black (3 Seed)
Group C Winner
Wildcard #9
Wildcard #3
Group #4
Gulf Coast Texans (4 Seed)
Group D Winner
Group M Winner
Wildcard #8
Group #5
Florida Rush 1 Boys (5 Seed)
Group E Winner
Group L Winner
Wildcard #7
Group #6
Team Boca Sabr (6 Seed)
Group F Winner
Group K Winner
Wildcard #6
Group #7
Doral While (7 Seed)
Group G Winner
Group J Winner
Wildcard #5
Group #8
Weston (8 Seed)
Group H Winner
Group I Winner
Wildcard #4
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