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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    In Europe, soccer is a top-tier sport.

    Additionally, in Europe there are often several professional clubs within a 10-15 mile radius.

    In Europe, public transportation infrastructure makes getting around relatively easy.

    The USA is not Europe. Our youth development won't work that way.
    In Europe, youth soccer is not expensive.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      In Europe, youth soccer is not expensive.
      The fact that there are many, many professional clubs offsets the cost for those players identified as good. The rest get cut.

      The fact that players only have to travel 10 miles keeps things inexpensive.

      The availability of public transportation mean getting to practice is inexpensive.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Yes, I am stating that CFC does play huge roll in USNT call ups. You have no idea what you're talking about. The call ups start with the club DOC and the trust they have created over the years with the USSF scouts. CFC has sent JB and CS that have done well and they also just got called up. Also, Remember that Dave Clarke is the assistant coach of U17 WNT/USSF scout and coaches the CFC Academy team comprised of the top 20 CFC kids across the entire club. Obviously, elite players do more and work outside their clubs. But CFC has connections, why did the two best players from FSA 2002 come over to CFC this year? Better exposure wouldn't you guess? And guess what they just released IMG Academy Top 150 this week and one of these FSA players that came over to CFC made the list. Coincidence?
        This is exactly the reason. look at the Cleveland internationals. Their 00 team didn't even make lowest level ECNL playoffs last year. Then their club doc gets the u19 YNT coach gig and surprise! 3 kids get invited to the summer 99/00 team and at least 2 are still involved and at least one's in Spain. Fc Stars in 2016 when their DOC was a U16 assistant... Michigan hawks when their DOC was a u16 assistant. And what's in the water in Colorado? I assure you it isn't the water.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The fact that there are many, many professional clubs offsets the cost for those players identified as good. The rest get cut.

          The fact that players only have to travel 10 miles keeps things inexpensive.

          The availability of public transportation mean getting to practice is inexpensive.

          the most important part of your comment is the "identified as good" part. That is done by the culture at grass roots level, often at a pretty young age. The rest dont get cut, they just dont continue on the pro track. There is no funded education track for those not making the grade. many continue to play in school or recreationally.

          Its not that its inexpensive, quite the opposite. Its more that money is not spent on players unless there is the probability of a return.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The fact that there are many, many professional clubs offsets the cost for those players identified as good. The rest get cut.

            The fact that players only have to travel 10 miles keeps things inexpensive.

            The availability of public transportation mean getting to practice is inexpensive.
            and making the top tiers is based on skill, not if parents can pay Euros. Quite the opposite here unless you're good enough and close enough to make a free-to-play MLS program. Proximity to so many quality clubs also means plenty of good competition without killing a weekend to play one game

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              the most important part of your comment is the "identified as good" part. That is done by the culture at grass roots level, often at a pretty young age. The rest dont get cut, they just dont continue on the pro track. There is no funded education track for those not making the grade. many continue to play in school or recreationally.

              Its not that its inexpensive, quite the opposite. Its more that money is not spent on players unless there is the probability of a return.
              Identification often happens before age 11. Recreational and school play are actually little or no better than the training our youth get; these players aren't going anywhere.

              Our players who don't get identified are welcome to continue on the rec. or school-team track, which is quite inexpensive.

              However, between NT recognition and rec/school play, we have the money pit, where the upper middle class get to play their kid in regional ECNL/NPL/Academy leagues for $$$$. Many of these players are stronger than the school/recreational players in Europe.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Identification often happens before age 11. Recreational and school play are actually little or no better than the training our youth get; these players aren't going anywhere.

                Our players who don't get identified are welcome to continue on the rec. or school-team track, which is quite inexpensive.

                However, between NT recognition and rec/school play, we have the money pit, where the upper middle class get to play their kid in regional ECNL/NPL/Academy leagues for $$$$. Many of these players are stronger than the school/recreational players in Europe.
                I think I agree, but the point of that is (for girls) to feed T9 created demand. Its not becasue the players are necessarily high potential pro prospects. They arent. Mom and Dad are funding an option that is likely to end up worthless.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I think I agree, but the point of that is (for girls) to feed T9 created demand. Its not becasue the players are necessarily high potential pro prospects. They arent. Mom and Dad are funding an option that is likely to end up worthless.
                  Our high school has had European high schoolers come over on an exchange program almost every year. We've had several girls over the past decade who were strong players on their European high school team. While none of these kids were slouches, compared to our club players, the Europeans were out of shape, and, compared to our NPL/ECNL kids, even the underclassmen, these players were less skillful and less tactical. The Europeans seemed a little more physical than our kids, but also played a slower game. None of those imports was ever top 5 on the team.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Our high school has had European high schoolers come over on an exchange program almost every year. We've had several girls over the past decade who were strong players on their European high school team. While none of these kids were slouches, compared to our club players, the Europeans were out of shape, and, compared to our NPL/ECNL kids, even the underclassmen, these players were less skillful and less tactical. The Europeans seemed a little more physical than our kids, but also played a slower game. None of those imports was ever top 5 on the team.
                    Im not surprised. their very best players would be a lot better than that though.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Our high school has had European high schoolers come over on an exchange program almost every year. We've had several girls over the past decade who were strong players on their European high school team. While none of these kids were slouches, compared to our club players, the Europeans were out of shape, and, compared to our NPL/ECNL kids, even the underclassmen, these players were less skillful and less tactical. The Europeans seemed a little more physical than our kids, but also played a slower game. None of those imports was ever top 5 on the team.
                      I'm assuming girls? Soccer is building as a female sport there and is more variable. HS sports also isn't as much a "thing" there like it is here, and it's all but non existent at the university level. As yours was an educational program, not soccer, you're not getting the better players from that area, just high schoolers who happen to play soccer. European boys blow our kids away more often than not. The best have signed a pro contract by 16.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I'm assuming girls? Soccer is building as a female sport there and is more variable. HS sports also isn't as much a "thing" there like it is here, and it's all but non existent at the university level. As yours was an educational program, not soccer, you're not getting the better players from that area, just high schoolers who happen to play soccer. European boys blow our kids away more often than not. The best have signed a pro contract by 16.
                        Good point that it is an academic program, so the kids who come here aren't dumb jocks but might not be the best athletes either.

                        Do academy kids in the EU play school soccer?

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                          We just got an 18-year old nanny, who is quite stunning, and she can play soccer...I guess

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            We just got an 18-year old nanny, who is quite stunning, and she can play soccer...I guess
                            Yeah, she and your wife make quite an entertaining pair. But, I don't know if either play soccer.

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                              Good player, exceptional!!

                              Is it true that her HS converted her to Striker cause CFC Coach convinced her to play outside back. Imagine how much better she would be if they did that from Day 1! She should THANK HS Coach for placing her in her most natural position!

                              I checked these facts prior to actually posting!

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Good player, exceptional!!

                                Is it true that her HS converted her to Striker cause CFC Coach convinced her to play outside back. Imagine how much better she would be if they did that from Day 1! She should THANK HS Coach for placing her in her most natural position!

                                I checked these facts prior to actually posting!
                                You’re a moron. Check again. She plays CM for CFC. But thanks for playing and exposing your stupidity.

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