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    #31
    This is a soccer forum.

    How many of you realize that the business of world soccer is actually based upon slavery? In almost all of the other countries but ours it is still legal to "own" a person. That distinction is the basis for the transfer fees that literally fund the development of players. The buying and selling of players is obviously quite lucrative.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      How do you explain generations of other immigrants coming to this country with nothing but a willingness to work then rising through the prejudice they ALL faced to claim their slice of the American pie? One big difference with other racial or ethnic groups is they all tended to band together to help each whereas in the black communities they tend to turn on each other. Don't know what causes it but you don't see little Italy, little Havana, Chinatown etc erupt in violence and start destroying their neighbor's property every time they get confronted with an injustice. If you don't think those other groups faced equal or even greater injustices you don't know American history.
      Agreed.

      Game, Set, Match

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        How do you explain generations of other immigrants coming to this country with nothing but a willingness to work then rising through the prejudice they ALL faced to claim their slice of the American pie? One big difference with other racial or ethnic groups is they all tended to band together to help each whereas in the black communities they tend to turn on each other. Don't know what causes it but you don't see little Italy, little Havana, Chinatown etc erupt in violence and start destroying their neighbor's property every time they get confronted with an injustice. If you don't think those other groups faced equal or even greater injustices you don't know American history.
        You are exactly right. The white guilt proponent has no knowledge of American history, except what has been spoon-fed to him via an agenda driven machine.

        The fact of the matter is that the desecration of the American middle class began in earnest post the Kennedy assassination and has been driven by both sides of aisle, through policy, taxation, trade deals and activist shareholders. This is not a Dem-Rep argument, that is simply a red herring. The loss of solid well paying middle class jobs has decimated the inner cities combined with glamorizing the drug culture and gangster lifestyles.

        In the mid 80's the crack epidemic ravaged the black community. The Government responded with increasing mandatory minimum sentencing, killing the family unit. Do you have any idea how easy it would to eradicate the supply? The stuff only grows in limited areas. 5 minutes and few well placed missiles ends illicit cocaine production for many years. Do you know anyone who served in Afghanistan? The poppy fields were off limits, essentially a home base in a game of tag for those chasing the Taliban - while being chased if they made it there, they were all set. Again, the Heroin epidemic could be ended once and for all, quite easily at the source.

        At the end of the day, you have a few very powerful individuals who make boat loads of money off of public policy and it doesn't have anything to do with slavery or the like. It has to do with greed, power and control. Now, I will grant you that those at the top of the food chain may mostly be white, but they sure as hell do not represent (white) society as whole and never will.

        Wake up and see the forest through the trees.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          How much time per week to you spend at your local klavern?
          Not nearly as much as you

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Agreed.

            Game, Set, Match
            To compare the experience of immigrants to that of slaves and the decendants of slaves is ludicrous. This is an example of why we will never be rid of intolerance and bigotry; people like you are completely blind to other's reality. It is pointless to engage someone so blatantly biased.

            Given the rampant exchange of vitriol on this site, it is no surprise this site is trolled by bigots.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              How do you explain generations of other immigrants coming to this country with nothing but a willingness to work then rising through the prejudice they ALL faced to claim their slice of the American pie? One big difference with other racial or ethnic groups is they all tended to band together to help each whereas in the black communities they tend to turn on each other. Don't know what causes it but you don't see little Italy, little Havana, Chinatown etc erupt in violence and start destroying their neighbor's property every time they get confronted with an injustice. If you don't think those other groups faced equal or even greater injustices you don't know American history.
              This is true.
              So are there wealthy predominately black cities in the USA?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                To compare the experience of immigrants to that of slaves and the decendants of slaves is ludicrous. This is an example of why we will never be rid of intolerance and bigotry; people like you are completely blind to other's reality. It is pointless to engage someone so blatantly biased.

                Given the rampant exchange of vitriol on this site, it is no surprise this site is trolled by bigots.
                The Irish were slaved too, dude. They are not blaming the English for their failures today. And they shouldn't.

                Were you or any recent family member, say in the last 100 years, a slave? No? That's what I thought.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  This is true.
                  So are there wealthy predominately black cities in the USA?
                  Dur - Detroit, Atlanta, South side Chicago, Camden etc. With the new Assessment of Fair Housing act from HUD this will be coming to the suburbs. It's time to grab the pitchforks and torches!!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    To compare the experience of immigrants to that of slaves and the decendants of slaves is ludicrous. This is an example of why we will never be rid of intolerance and bigotry; people like you are completely blind to other's reality. It is pointless to engage someone so blatantly biased.

                    Given the rampant exchange of vitriol on this site, it is no surprise this site is trolled by bigots.
                    How many blacks were actually descended from slaves? Not sure but to assume that ALL American blacks have "slave" roots is a bit of a stretch.

                    My ancestors were uneducated, impoverished and homeless when they arrived here. There was no Welcome Wagon but they did benefit from minimal help from the church and those that came before them. Then it was time to get to work, no government help, no programs, no assumption that they were owed anything. I am sure they would have taken all the help they could have gotten. A perverse blessing that there was none to be had. They were successful through hard work, and the reality that they had no choice but to be self reliant.

                    Really simple question. Why do other ethnic groups who often cannot speak English come to the US as immigrants and succeed where other ethnic groups who are citizens fail for generations?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      How many blacks were actually descended from slaves? Not sure but to assume that ALL American blacks have "slave" roots is a bit of a stretch.

                      My ancestors were uneducated, impoverished and homeless when they arrived here. There was no Welcome Wagon but they did benefit from minimal help from the church and those that came before them. Then it was time to get to work, no government help, no programs, no assumption that they were owed anything. I am sure they would have taken all the help they could have gotten. A perverse blessing that there was none to be had. They were successful through hard work, and the reality that they had no choice but to be self reliant.

                      Really simple question. Why do other ethnic groups who often cannot speak English come to the US as immigrants and succeed where other ethnic groups who are citizens fail for generations?
                      Until the people within the community stand up and declare that they are not going to take it anymore, the malaise will continue. Acceptance of violent culture with the no snitching attitude only enables the sociopaths who are terrorizing their own people. Unless the masses rise up against them, they will continue to rule and keep the entire community down. You don't need money to live an honest and violent free lifestyle.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Until the people within the community stand up and declare that they are not going to take it anymore, the malaise will continue. Acceptance of violent culture with the no snitching attitude only enables the sociopaths who are terrorizing their own people. Unless the masses rise up against them, they will continue to rule and keep the entire community down. You don't need money to live an honest and violent free lifestyle.
                        And the cops are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You are exactly right. The white guilt proponent has no knowledge of American history, except what has been spoon-fed to him via an agenda driven machine.

                          The fact of the matter is that the desecration of the American middle class began in earnest post the Kennedy assassination and has been driven by both sides of aisle, through policy, taxation, trade deals and activist shareholders. This is not a Dem-Rep argument, that is simply a red herring. The loss of solid well paying middle class jobs has decimated the inner cities combined with glamorizing the drug culture and gangster lifestyles.

                          In the mid 80's the crack epidemic ravaged the black community. The Government responded with increasing mandatory minimum sentencing, killing the family unit. Do you have any idea how easy it would to eradicate the supply? The stuff only grows in limited areas. 5 minutes and few well placed missiles ends illicit cocaine production for many years. Do you know anyone who served in Afghanistan? The poppy fields were off limits, essentially a home base in a game of tag for those chasing the Taliban - while being chased if they made it there, they were all set. Again, the Heroin epidemic could be ended once and for all, quite easily at the source.

                          At the end of the day, you have a few very powerful individuals who make boat loads of money off of public policy and it doesn't have anything to do with slavery or the like. It has to do with greed, power and control. Now, I will grant you that those at the top of the food chain may mostly be white, but they sure as hell do not represent (white) society as whole and never will.

                          Wake up and see the forest through the trees.

                          You were good until paragraph three when you made a black vs. the world issue. The drug craze did and still does ravage all peoples; black and white and other. It also destroys family units across all cultures. You are correct about the middle class being decimated but don't stop there. You cannot pin point one issue and try to argue for a single solution. Since society is involved on all levels and through all columns you have to look at a bigger picture.

                          If we want to center around the economy and the lack of jobs then incorporate all aspects.
                          1. Illegal immigrants should be deported and employees should be penalized. Couple this with a revamp of the welfare system and suddenly jobs open up and people need to work...the government saves 500 billion on immigrant benefits and has to pay less in welfare since the people are now working......
                          The government has money to start up drug rehab combined with worker reform. Wtih the rehab and job training and newly opened jobs (illegals are gone) those folk can start to work again......perhaps in the end the family unit becomes stronger.

                          Improve tax regulations on business and/or impose penalities on US companies that take their business outside and try to import products....now you have made it more worthwihle for these companies to stay in the US and provide jobs.

                          Finally, control the outrageous rising expense of higher education....if not then consider letting folk pay with pre-this dollars......60-70 K per year is ridiculous......and I am sure that most know why they are paing that price....

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            You are exactly right. The white guilt proponent has no knowledge of American history, except what has been spoon-fed to him via an agenda driven machine.

                            The fact of the matter is that the desecration of the American middle class began in earnest post the Kennedy assassination and has been driven by both sides of aisle, through policy, taxation, trade deals and activist shareholders. This is not a Dem-Rep argument, that is simply a red herring. The loss of solid well paying middle class jobs has decimated the inner cities combined with glamorizing the drug culture and gangster lifestyles.

                            In the mid 80's the crack epidemic ravaged the black community. The Government responded with increasing mandatory minimum sentencing, killing the family unit. Do you have any idea how easy it would to eradicate the supply? The stuff only grows in limited areas. 5 minutes and few well placed missiles ends illicit cocaine production for many years. Do you know anyone who served in Afghanistan? The poppy fields were off limits, essentially a home base in a game of tag for those chasing the Taliban - while being chased if they made it there, they were all set. Again, the Heroin epidemic could be ended once and for all, quite easily at the source.

                            At the end of the day, you have a few very powerful individuals who make boat loads of money off of public policy and it doesn't have anything to do with slavery or the like. It has to do with greed, power and control. Now, I will grant you that those at the top of the food chain may mostly be white, but they sure as hell do not represent (white) society as whole and never will.

                            Wake up and see the forest through the trees.
                            The crack craze of the 80's was not all that dissimilar to prohibition. Decades of Irish and Italians had their lives made and ruined by alcohol. Just sayin.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The crack craze of the 80's was not all that dissimilar to prohibition. Decades of Irish and Italians had their lives made and ruined by alcohol. Just sayin.

                              what??? but how can blacks claim foul play in that example??

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                How many blacks were actually descended from slaves? Not sure but to assume that ALL American blacks have "slave" roots is a bit of a stretch.

                                My ancestors were uneducated, impoverished and homeless when they arrived here. There was no Welcome Wagon but they did benefit from minimal help from the church and those that came before them. Then it was time to get to work, no government help, no programs, no assumption that they were owed anything. I am sure they would have taken all the help they could have gotten. A perverse blessing that there was none to be had. They were successful through hard work, and the reality that they had no choice but to be self reliant.

                                Really simple question. Why do other ethnic groups who often cannot speak English come to the US as immigrants and succeed where other ethnic groups who are citizens fail for generations?
                                Yes, yes... It is really hopeless. Blacks are inferior, that is why they behave the way they do. I don't believe that but I figured I'd distill most of these arguments to their essence. There are none so blind as those who cannot see. It just goes to show you, bigotry does not end at the Mason-Dixon Line.

                                I suppose some Native Americans live in poverty because they are too lazy to leave the reservation?

                                Well if you want to hear more nonsense from your fellow travelers, watch the clown show on FOX tonight. Perhaps The Donald can provide a sufficient dose of white resentment to sooth your soul.

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