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    Why do parents allow this to happen?

    Never understood parents that push or allow their kids to train so much at the cost of their bodies failing them. It’s not worth it!

    HBO Real Sports of the alarming rise of overuse injuries in youth sports.

    https://youtu.be/xr9cWRXjOF4

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Never understood parents that push or allow their kids to train so much at the cost of their bodies failing them. It’s not worth it!

    HBO Real Sports of the alarming rise of overuse injuries in youth sports.

    https://youtu.be/xr9cWRXjOF4
    Pure hollywood fear mongering.

    It's really no different than those who push their kids to academic perfection leasing to suicide, heavy drug use, rebellion, etc.

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      #3
      Fear mongering? How do you argue the statistical rates these injuries are happening? Also, bad false equivalency regarding academics. Better question would be is what can players and parents go to minimize these types of injuries in youth athletes.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Fear mongering? How do you argue the statistical rates these injuries are happening? Also, bad false equivalency regarding academics. Better question would be is what can players and parents go to minimize these types of injuries in youth athletes.
        Better record keeping & reporting

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          #5
          Talk to any pediatrician - the issue is very real and only getting worse. It helps keep lots of orthopedic and physical therapy practices very profitable.

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            #6
            I know parents that push for extra training and conditioning on top of club trainings, basically two a days. When you talk to these parents you know immediately the end goal is to get their kid to the next level whether it be too D1 programs or pro. But the one thing in common about these parents is that they all pretend it’s the kids who drive this. Yet who is paying $ for this? Parents should be taking measures for preventative care including rest days and other light physical activity.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I know parents that push for extra training and conditioning on top of club trainings, basically two a days. When you talk to these parents you know immediately the end goal is to get their kid to the next level whether it be too D1 programs or pro. But the one thing in common about these parents is that they all pretend it’s the kids who drive this. Yet who is paying $ for this? Parents should be taking measures for preventative care including rest days and other light physical activity.
              Some kids are truly driven. Of course parents pay but that doesn’t mean they are pushing their kids.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Some kids are truly driven. Of course parents pay but that doesn’t mean they are pushing their kids.
                It's a parent's job to be a parent. They should discuss limits with their pediatricians or other physicians. The type of training and how repetitive (or not) matters, as does the athlete's age and whether or not they've done through puberty.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Some kids are truly driven. Of course parents pay but that doesn’t mean they are pushing their kids.
                  Agreed. I have to tell my kids to dial it down sometimes because they are driven. They are pushing themselves. They want to be better. They want to succeed.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It's a parent's job to be a parent. They should discuss limits with their pediatricians or other physicians. The type of training and how repetitive (or not) matters, as does the athlete's age and whether or not they've done through puberty.
                    Common sense: Listen to your athlete and ask some simple questions. How do you feel? Are you sore? Do you feel pain anywhere? Then change the training periodization and/or intensity based on the answers. Most kids bodies pre-puberty are very resilient, but still require rest and recovery. Most athletes going through puberty will have "growing pains" that need to be watched and addressed. In soccer, that means ankle, knee, hip issues. After puberty, especially with girls, general fitness becomes very important because many girls pack on weight, but keep playing like they had pre-pubescent bodies.

                    Most club soccer trains 2-3 days per week for 90 minutes or less with 1 game per week. That means plenty of downtime. It's parents and athletes that double up on teams or sports (town and club or HS sport and club is common) where you see athletes get injured or worn down. They also do too much sport-specific training and not enough general strength, conditioning and fitness. Best thing we did for our D was to start her in sport-specific strength and conditioning program that focused on dealing with imbalances and core muscle groups. Started in middle school and has kept with it, adjusting for competitive schedule along the way.

                    Had a kid come in to strength conditioning while my D was training that was a club softball player, freshmen in HS. Her body had adapted to pitching such that her right side was overdeveloped and the left underdeveloped, and that was creating posture, tightness and other issues. That is easily addressed with the strength and conditioning, but it needed to start in 7th or 8th grade, likely when this girl started puberty.

                    My D is in HS and has stopped doing other sports to focus on soccer and strength and fitness. Strength training 2 days per week, soccer training 2 days per week, cardio or anaerobic training 2 days per week. 1 day completely off for rest and recovery. This is "pre-season", with the intent of starting the spring competitive season and showcases as strong and fit as possible while minimizing injuries. We adjust based on how she feels and if there is pain/soreness. No need to "push through" things. Pain is a warning sign that needs to be listened to. Also, proper sleep and nutrition is key. D takes protein shakes post training and eats plenty of carbs leading up to training. So far has worked like a charm.

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                      #11
                      Sports specialization too early is a problem. Shouldn't be done before HS. Also, you don't see many physical late bloomers in these articles and videos. I'm guessing many of those girls blowing out knees in 7th, 8th or 9th grade were taller at an earlier age. They get picked for "elite" teams early and the training intensity (or need to train more to maintain) forces them to overdue it.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Common sense: Listen to your athlete and ask some simple questions. How do you feel? Are you sore? Do you feel pain anywhere? Then change the training periodization and/or intensity based on the answers. Most kids bodies pre-puberty are very resilient, but still require rest and recovery. Most athletes going through puberty will have "growing pains" that need to be watched and addressed. In soccer, that means ankle, knee, hip issues. After puberty, especially with girls, general fitness becomes very important because many girls pack on weight, but keep playing like they had pre-pubescent bodies.

                        Most club soccer trains 2-3 days per week for 90 minutes or less with 1 game per week. That means plenty of downtime. It's parents and athletes that double up on teams or sports (town and club or HS sport and club is common) where you see athletes get injured or worn down. They also do too much sport-specific training and not enough general strength, conditioning and fitness. Best thing we did for our D was to start her in sport-specific strength and conditioning program that focused on dealing with imbalances and core muscle groups. Started in middle school and has kept with it, adjusting for competitive schedule along the way.

                        Had a kid come in to strength conditioning while my D was training that was a club softball player, freshmen in HS. Her body had adapted to pitching such that her right side was overdeveloped and the left underdeveloped, and that was creating posture, tightness and other issues. That is easily addressed with the strength and conditioning, but it needed to start in 7th or 8th grade, likely when this girl started puberty.

                        My D is in HS and has stopped doing other sports to focus on soccer and strength and fitness. Strength training 2 days per week, soccer training 2 days per week, cardio or anaerobic training 2 days per week. 1 day completely off for rest and recovery. This is "pre-season", with the intent of starting the spring competitive season and showcases as strong and fit as possible while minimizing injuries. We adjust based on how she feels and if there is pain/soreness. No need to "push through" things. Pain is a warning sign that needs to be listened to. Also, proper sleep and nutrition is key. D takes protein shakes post training and eats plenty of carbs leading up to training. So far has worked like a charm.
                        Agreed. After puberty girls should really focus less on sports and more on basic conditioning to make sure they don't pack on the weight or at least not in the wrong areas.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Agreed. After puberty girls should really focus less on sports and more on basic conditioning to make sure they don't pack on the weight or at least not in the wrong areas.
                          Get them a Peleton.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Agreed. I have to tell my kids to dial it down sometimes because they are driven. They are pushing themselves. They want to be better. They want to succeed.
                            I’m sure.

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                              #15
                              From age 13-14+ the better players are practicing 3-4 days a week with 1-2 games per weekend. Middle school is when many kids drop other sports and really start to focus more intensely on one sport. Between club and high school (which is often 6 days/week in season) there's little time for extra strength training or playing other sports. They may play other sports but not at the same intensity. Late middle school and definitely HS is when you really see injuries ramp up - not just because the game gets more physical but also because of over use. Kids that used to be able to play 24/7 suddenly have issues.

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