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    Red Bulls Girls Program - Is There a Future?

    With Sky Blue FC moving to Red Bull Arena this upcoming season is it only a matter of time before Red Bull GmbH looks to acquire the club from the Murphy Family and builds out a proper girls DA program behind it?

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    With Sky Blue FC moving to Red Bull Arena this upcoming season is it only a matter of time before Red Bull GmbH looks to acquire the club from the Murphy Family and builds out a proper girls DA program behind it?
    Yes, because they are enamored with USSF and there is so much money to be made in girls soccer given the nature of professional contracts and payouts.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Yes, because they are enamored with USSF and there is so much money to be made in girls soccer given the nature of professional contracts and payouts.
      lowest attendance of all the teams, but maybe the move will help that. The two events they had there this year were much better attended. Red Bulls get to sell more concessions at an otherwise idle asset. Win/win there. Impact on GDA? None. GDA might not even be around in two years


      https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2019-nwsl-attendance/
      https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2019-nwsl-attendance/

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        lowest attendance of all the teams, but maybe the move will help that. The two events they had there this year were much better attended. Red Bulls get to sell more concessions at an otherwise idle asset. Win/win there. Impact on GDA? None. GDA might not even be around in two years


        https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2019-nwsl-attendance/
        https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2019-nwsl-attendance/
        Yes, it would be a huge windfall for them to hire coaches and give away free soccer to hundreds of kids (plus uniforms ... travel too??) and then sell 42 tickets for $10 each over the course of the year. You have to be a democrat .... dumbest idea every .... spend a fortune to try to dredge up a few ticket sales from a group notoriously devoid of buying merchandise or paying money for to attend sports .... yes, that's right .... females. Not to mention .... why would NYRB want to give any more power to USSF who does nothing for them but spend their money?! In 2 years. they will have nothing to do with USSF (and neither will any other MLS teams).

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          #5
          That would be dumbest idea ever they should go for it if they want to lose lots of $!!

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            That would be dumbest idea ever they should go for it if they want to lose lots of $!!
            NWSL will look much different in 5 years. Three clubs will already be added over the next two years. They finally have big sponsors like Nike and a Budweiser behind them and ESPN. Huge for them. Never had close to this much attention. If it’s marketed right it will succeed. With this said, it will never be MLS, but it could be very successful.

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              #7
              BTW is New Jersey Red Bulls, thanks.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Yes, it would be a huge windfall for them to hire coaches and give away free soccer to hundreds of kids (plus uniforms ... travel too??) and then sell 42 tickets for $10 each over the course of the year. You have to be a democrat .... dumbest idea every .... spend a fortune to try to dredge up a few ticket sales from a group notoriously devoid of buying merchandise or paying money for to attend sports .... yes, that's right .... females. Not to mention .... why would NYRB want to give any more power to USSF who does nothing for them but spend their money?! In 2 years. they will have nothing to do with USSF (and neither will any other MLS teams).
                You need to separate the two. This was a decision for Sky Blue NWSL and has nothing to do with the GDA. It's a good deal for Sky Blue the TEAM (bigger audience and a more professional appearance) and Red Bulls (more stadium use). It will have no impact on Sky Blue GDA. Virtually non existent NWSL profit margins means free to play GDA will not be coming to the US in our kids' soccer lifetimes. If MLS splits with USSF - which they likely will - again that doesn't really impact either the team or the youth club. Both the club and GDA have too many insurmountable obstacles. Being linked with a pro teams is kind of cool but that's about it. Families don't care about professional careers for their daughters. They want their daughters to get into Georgetown, find a good career and maybe playing soccer will help the get there.

                No need to throw politics into it either.

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                  #9
                  The whole RBDS thing for girls is just a money grab. If they actually had a women’s pro team (which they never will) then maybe it would be something. Either way spend your $ and time whichever way you want....

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The whole RBDS thing for girls is just a money grab. If they actually had a women’s pro team (which they never will) then maybe it would be something. Either way spend your $ and time whichever way you want....
                    If you want some good extra training it can work well. Same for boys. You don't do it thinking it will lead to something bigger. Training, that's it.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      NWSL will look much different in 5 years. Three clubs will already be added over the next two years. They finally have big sponsors like Nike and a Budweiser behind them and ESPN. Huge for them. Never had close to this much attention. If it’s marketed right it will succeed. With this said, it will never be MLS, but it could be very successful.
                      Yes, they will make 5 times as much as WNBA .... which loses money every year! -$10M x 5 = -$50M

                      https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...2019/38809289/

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Yes, they will make 5 times as much as WNBA .... which loses money every year! -$10M x 5 = -$50M

                        https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...2019/38809289/
                        The WNBA has struggled for years and makes little headway - and basketball is a much more popular US sport than soccer. The NBA can put a lot more money into it as well. With the exception of the Thorns, attendance at NWSL games is poor, lower than many WNBA games but with fewer clubs and games. Some teams saw an slight uptick in attendance after the WC, and the Olympics next year may put a few more butts in seats in cities where the leading stars play. But day in and out women's soccer just isn't a regular draw. Lifetime dropped their deal to broadcast games.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The WNBA has struggled for years and makes little headway - and basketball is a much more popular US sport than soccer. The NBA can put a lot more money into it as well. With the exception of the Thorns, attendance at NWSL games is poor, lower than many WNBA games but with fewer clubs and games. Some teams saw an slight uptick in attendance after the WC, and the Olympics next year may put a few more butts in seats in cities where the leading stars play. But day in and out women's soccer just isn't a regular draw. Lifetime dropped their deal to broadcast games.
                          All women's sports struggle and deserve to. Women do not pay to watch sports or buy merchandise, men do and prefer to do it on the absolute top leagues/players .... which are men. I will bring my kid to a USWNT game when they are in the area once every two years, but we dont go to WNBA games and I would never go to an NWSL game. I would rather take her once a year to a local D1 women's game (couldn't care less which one). Sorry, without loyal fan backing (especially from women), no women's pro leagues can ever be profitable .... let alone enticing from a monetary perspective for the average player that can play at that level. You can not make or buy that loyalty either .... it has to start at some level (like NCAA) and then boil up. Will never happen ... my wife will never ever buy a ticket to any game ... even for my daughters .... because she ain't taking them ... especially if it is raining or cold.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            All women's sports struggle and deserve to. Women do not pay to watch sports or buy merchandise, men do and prefer to do it on the absolute top leagues/players .... which are men. I will bring my kid to a USWNT game when they are in the area once every two years, but we dont go to WNBA games and I would never go to an NWSL game. I would rather take her once a year to a local D1 women's game (couldn't care less which one). Sorry, without loyal fan backing (especially from women), no women's pro leagues can ever be profitable .... let alone enticing from a monetary perspective for the average player that can play at that level. You can not make or buy that loyalty either .... it has to start at some level (like NCAA) and then boil up. Will never happen ... my wife will never ever buy a ticket to any game ... even for my daughters .... because she ain't taking them ... especially if it is raining or cold.
                            "deserve" is a strong word - it sounds like the women aren't putting in the effort, which isn't the case. But there certainly are economic, entertainment and cultural realities. Sports fans of all kinds only have so much interest, time and $ to dedicate to teams or sports. Soccer, and even more so women's soccer, just isn't the draw that the top sports are. There just isn't nearly the same attendance or viewership numbers (aside from the Olympics and WC). Even if we build a better soccer culture in the US, the NWSL will always lag well behind MLS. Again, I'm not talking about the once-every-few year NT international events, but as an ongoing business. Female sports just aren't a draw for many, not even women.

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