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Here here. In the spirit of amatuuur sport, my good man. Esp at the D3 level.

To be fair it’s a good thought. Perhaps because it costs so little. The other thought maybe that it’s increasingly relevant to help attract worldwide talent, at least at the top levels.

There is a great TV documentary series on Amazon prime called "Inside Borussia Dortmund" that several of you should probably watch. It shows the inside of the business and athletic side of what goes on in a pro soccer club. Though obviously a step down it does really illuminate the intensity and pressure that exists in a top level college soccer program.

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Why does BTDT hate on D3 so much?

Great question, and you'll never get an answer....from him.

Most think it has to do with how badly he punished his first kid and trying to minimize the magnitude of what he did. And that is in a wealthy family with trust funds, and so his rants about money and how no one can attend college unless they get a full ride to Marist or St Peter's are a little much to take. Put another way, he's an ISL parent who sent his other kid to Duke but who hates himself and so projects his hatred on to other ISL parents and the kind of families who find very good D3 schools attractive. And now he loves to complain about med school posts when he used to post daily for weeks about how his kid was promised med school admission and was gonna take all her pre-med classes at Wachusett Valley Community College (WVCC).

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There is a great TV documentary series on Amazon prime called "Inside Borussia Dortmund" that several of you should probably watch. It shows the inside of the business and athletic side of what goes on in a pro soccer club. Though obviously a step down it does really illuminate the intensity and pressure that exists in a top level college soccer program.

OMG. Now D1 women's soccer is closer to top level European men's professional soccer but no one is allowed to make even a faint comparison between D3 and D1. When did David Copperfield bring his Vegas show to TS?

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There are some D3 schools which were formerly D1. Two good examples are U. Chicago and NYU. I think the academic reputation of both schools has not been hurt by leaving D1.

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there are some d3 schools which were formerly d1. Two good examples are u. Chicago and nyu. I think the academic reputation of both schools has not been hurt by leaving d1.

no one f"ing cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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no one f"ing cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The title of this thread is D3. If you do not care just go away.

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Many schools are re-evaluating their sports programs to try and help reign in spending and unaffordable tuitions. Some have dropped football programs, which frees up a ton of money not just for football but helps with Title 9 also. Only the big sports make schools any money, if at all, because not all schools are U AB with millions of football TV$ or Duke with BBall$. If other sports break even then it's because of alumni support and bringing in some full paying students to warm benches. From a purely operational standpoint many if not most lose money.

Aren’t soccer programs money losers too? Thank goodness for football & any money making sports or there wouldn’t be any soccer programs.

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At many tuition-driven D3 institutions, intercollegiate athletics serves an important recruitment/retention function and, in that respect, is a money-maker for those schools.

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At many tuition-driven D3 institutions, intercollegiate athletics serves an important recruitment/retention function and, in that respect, is a money-maker for those schools.

The high academic d3s produce high salaried grads who donate money back. It’s a money maker for both the student athlete and the school.

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At many tuition-driven D3 institutions, intercollegiate athletics serves an important recruitment/retention function and, in that respect, is a money-maker for those schools.

Both posts 262 and 263 are correct. Many sports "lose money " including soccer. But sports bring other benefits that are harder to quantify including recruiting good students, better campus environment, athlete alumni donations. But as we all know tuition is getting out of control and some schools are struggling. Dollars and cents may start to dictate cuts, especially less popular sports that don't bring in a good number of spectators to build community spirit. I mean how many students go watch golf, tennis or rowing?

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Not everyone that graduates from a high academic D3 is any more wealthy than any other college grad with a good major.Unless you start another non profit with your lib degree then the skies the limit.

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At many tuition-driven D3 institutions, intercollegiate athletics serves an important recruitment/retention function and, in that respect, is a money-maker for those schools.

Bingo. Colleges are always trying to fill the seats. So their interest in your kid to play sports, play the cello, be in the debate club, etc. helps them get your kid in the door, hopefully paying close to full tuition. They might offer a tuition break the first year with the hope that the student quits the team, but stays enrolled and pays full tuition.

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Bingo. Colleges are always trying to fill the seats. So their interest in your kid to play sports, play the cello, be in the debate club, etc. helps them get your kid in the door, hopefully paying close to full tuition. They might offer a tuition break the first year with the hope that the student quits the team, but stays enrolled and pays full tuition.

So many of these posts are simply self-serving to rationalize some poor parenting decisions. Informed parents can simply look at the *average* annual financial aid offered at the top tier D3 colleges in the northeast, it’s over $40k. If your child has focused on academics (i.e. you took *your* responsibility seriously), can play and you are not super rich, then they will get in and will get substantial financial aid—though that is also true if they play cello instead of soccer.

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Bingo. Colleges are always trying to fill the seats. So their interest in your kid to play sports, play the cello, be in the debate club, etc. helps them get your kid in the door, hopefully paying close to full tuition. They might offer a tuition break the first year with the hope that the student quits the team, but stays enrolled and pays full tuition.

This is absurd. Please tell us what colleges are doing this....offering a tuition break the first year and then hoping kids quit the team and then stay to pay full tuition. Doesn't seem like much of a business plan or any plan at all. And if a kid quits he or she is just as likely or more so to move on to another school. But I'm real curious about which D3s offer tuition breaks to play a sport (or the cello), and under what guise, and then hope the kid quits playing the cello. The more I type the more I realize just how absurd the post is.

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Bingo. Colleges are always trying to fill the seats. So their interest in your kid to play sports, play the cello, be in the debate club, etc. helps them get your kid in the door, hopefully paying close to full tuition. They might offer a tuition break the first year with the hope that the student quits the team, but stays enrolled and pays full tuition.

Bingo? Most moronic post of the year. This guy would probably stink at Bingo where all you have to do is mark the numbers that are called out.