Not so fast us soccer age change!!!

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Not so fast us soccer age change!!!





Statement from Youth Council Technical Working Group to U.S. Soccer

To: Leaders and members of U.S. Soccer
From: Youth Council technical leaders
Subject: Inclusion in policy discussions

Youth Council Technical Working Group


CHARLESTON, S.C. (Feb. 5, 2016) - The Youth Council Technical Working Group unanimously agreed that there has been generally insufficient dialogue between the U.S. Soccer Federation technical staff and the technical leadership of the various youth membership organizations.

Substantial questions remain about the impact of the new calendar-year registration model, and the interpretation that a player's eligible competition year is determined by his/her age in the year in which the competition ends. This change results in every player moving up one age group and may not align appropriately with the mandated age appropriate play guidelines.

There are broad concerns about the efficacy of those new guidelines, which should have been addressed prior to broad dissemination of the materials.

Not only does the Federation have a responsibility to discuss such broad issues with its membership, but a transparent and inclusive process will produce better outcomes for everyone.

The Youth Council Technical Working Group would like the Federation to agree to a formal, institutionalized communications process to ensure that an ongoing dialogue is established with the youth members. Federation technical and administrative leadership should schedule approximately three meetings annually with the Youth Council Technical Working Group and other meetings as needed with ad-hoc sub-committees of the Group.

Specific issues, which should be discussed include:

Calendar-year birth date and implications
Age-appropriate play guidelines
Field sizes
Goal sizes
Team sizes
Build-out lines
Concussion protocols and practical implications
Modifications to the Laws to accommodate the above
Broad player development philosophy
Coaching education policies
Licensing philosophy
Access
Communication
CEU's
It is the intention of the Youth Council Technical Working Group to cooperate closely with the Federation and support its efforts to raise the standard of development for all youth players. Through regular dialogue and a rigorous examination of these and other related issues, we believe that the best outcomes can be achieved for all interested parties.

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It's a mess. DAP will be out of sync with the rest on the boys side for apparently one year, 2016/2017 then skip ahead and have the year designation coincide with when the spring season ends, not the fall. So:

2002 DAP will be u14 for 2016/17
2002 DAP will be u16 for 2017/18
2003 DAP will be u13 for 2016/17
2003 DAP will be u15 for 2017/18

2003s get screwed, no u14 DAP and then compete a year earlier for spots on u16 teams.

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs...n-a-time-warp/

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I don't think it means things aren't happening - just that

-duh we just now realized we have some communications issues regarding big impact events
-we should fix it/communicate better
-but we're not going to tell you how we're going to fix the communications it - because we have no stinking idea how, but gee we should talk more

Signed, US CLub Soccer

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It's a mess. DAP will be out of sync with the rest on the boys side for apparently one year, 2016/2017 then skip ahead and have the year designation coincide with when the spring season ends, not the fall. So:

2002 DAP will be u14 for 2016/17
2002 DAP will be u16 for 2017/18
2003 DAP will be u13 for 2016/17
2003 DAP will be u15 for 2017/18

2003s get screwed, no u14 DAP and then compete a year earlier for spots on u16 teams.

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs...n-a-time-warp/

It will be u 13/15 16/17 18/19

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I don't think it means things aren't happening - just that

-duh we just now realized we have some communications issues regarding big impact events
-we should fix it/communicate better
-but we're not going to tell you how we're going to fix the communications it - because we have no stinking idea how, but gee we should talk more

Signed, US CLub Soccer

Dear Federation,

Get out of your ivory towers. You have no freaking idea what you are doing.

US Club Soccer.

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Make the change to small-sided, add a birth year girls DAP, and leave the rest of the age groups on academic year. All the elite pathway teams/camps are already birth year. Now that boys DAP starting much younger at u12, the birth year RAE won't be watered down as much.

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Time for Sunil to go? JK isn't working out. Taking the USWNT team to court after winning the gold medal and releasing their personal data along the way. Age groups. Trying to pick winners and losers in the free market with US Soccer designations (un American in my view)!

Too many failures to ignore at this point!

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It will be u 13/15 16/17 18/19

DAP has designated u12:2004, u13:2003, u14:2002, u15:01/16:00, u17:99/18:98 for next year. Anything after that is pure speculation because they haven't even discussed much less decided.

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It's a mess. DAP will be out of sync with the rest on the boys side for apparently one year, 2016/2017 then skip ahead and have the year designation coincide with when the spring season ends, not the fall. So:

2002 DAP will be u14 for 2016/17
2002 DAP will be u16 for 2017/18
2003 DAP will be u13 for 2016/17
2003 DAP will be u15 for 2017/18

2003s get screwed, no u14 DAP and then compete a year earlier for spots on u16 teams.

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs...n-a-time-warp/

Same as the 2001's.
Why didn't they follow what DAP was doing already?

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US Soccer planned to have everything like DAP & all their first age charts and explanations had the same age groups as DAP. However, this meant teams started competitive traveling & playing 11v11 later. That would be less money for the big clubs. Big clubs across the country protested and got it changed. Stupid.

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US Soccer planned to have everything like DAP & all their first age charts and explanations had the same age groups as DAP. However, this meant teams started competitive traveling & playing 11v11 later. That would be less money for the big clubs. Big clubs across the country protested and got it changed. Stupid.

Actually it is to keep the ages in line with the rest of the world supposedly.

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So a late 03 will play U13 next year, then jump to U15 the year after? No U14 at all? The problem is that these kids won't be in high school yet, and they won't have club soccer in the fall because the rest of their team actually is in high school.

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Actually it is to keep the ages in line with the rest of the world supposedly.

DAP is supposedly in line with the rest of the world.... Why change DAP? Why not make the rest the same as DAP is now?

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DAP is supposedly in line with the rest of the world.... Why change DAP? Why not make the rest the same as DAP is now?

As long as soccer is fall-spring it will never be aligned with the rest of the world. The DA program is already birth year but uses the fall year as the date the Uxx is determined through. That has the Uxx being correct for the fall but wrong for the spring. Under the new rules where the spring year is used the Uxx will be wrong for the fall but right for the spring.

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As long as soccer is fall-spring it will never be aligned with the rest of the world. The DA program is already birth year but uses the fall year as the date the Uxx is determined through. That has the Uxx being correct for the fall but wrong for the spring. Under the new rules where the spring year is used the Uxx will be wrong for the fall but right for the spring.

So, if we still won't be the same as the rest of the world, why don't we leave it the way DAP is now to cause less disruption & allow for more time playing small sided? Either that or, if US Soccer really & truly wants to be the same as the rest of the world, then we need goal so switch to a Jan-Def soccer year, not just age groups!