Fsa.....a year to forget!

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This was supposed to be the year, what happened?
1. Fsa behind cfc in the standings in all 6 ecnl age groups, u14-u18/19
2. Fsa lost the head to head battle
3. Fsa doesn't have a team that finished better than .500
4. Fsa doesn't have a team that has a positive goal differential
5. Fsa lost the annual college commit list competition
6. Fsa was supposed to get all the best ow girls (again). This year because of GDA
7 Fsa lost the 2017-2018 try outs for next year, losing out not only on the best outside players, but also lost thier own ecnl players to cfc united.
8 Fsa lost the ecnl npl battle as well

In summary, Fsa just lost! Haven't seen a more miserable campaign since the soccer plus years.

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This was supposed to be the year, what happened?
1. Fsa behind cfc in the standings in all 6 ecnl age groups, u14-u18/19
2. Fsa lost the head to head battle
3. Fsa doesn't have a team that finished better than .500
4. Fsa doesn't have a team that has a positive goal differential
5. Fsa lost the annual college commit list competition
6. Fsa was supposed to get all the best ow girls (again). This year because of GDA
7 Fsa lost the 2017-2018 try outs for next year, losing out not only on the best outside players, but also lost thier own ecnl players to cfc united.
8 Fsa lost the ecnl npl battle as well

In summary, Fsa just lost! Haven't seen a more miserable campaign since the soccer plus years.

All facts. Another fact is that SD doesn't care about development, only the bottom line. As long as he has new fields, a full building, and B, C, D teams bringing in cash, he's happy. FSA is a business.

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This was supposed to be the year, what happened?
1. Fsa behind cfc in the standings in all 6 ecnl age groups, u14-u18/19
2. Fsa lost the head to head battle
3. Fsa doesn't have a team that finished better than .500
4. Fsa doesn't have a team that has a positive goal differential
5. Fsa lost the annual college commit list competition
6. Fsa was supposed to get all the best ow girls (again). This year because of GDA
7 Fsa lost the 2017-2018 try outs for next year, losing out not only on the best outside players, but also lost thier own ecnl players to cfc united.
8 Fsa lost the ecnl npl battle as well

In summary, Fsa just lost! Haven't seen a more miserable campaign since the soccer plus years.

I didn't want to believe that CFC was taking the girls, but it is true. Rosters are posted on their website. *** is going on? FSA needs to recognize that they have problems and change rosters and coaches before it's too late. Packing 9 in the box and defending for entire games hoping for a draw is embarrassing

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This was supposed to be the year, what happened?
1. Fsa behind cfc in the standings in all 6 ecnl age groups, u14-u18/19
2. Fsa lost the head to head battle
3. Fsa doesn't have a team that finished better than .500
4. Fsa doesn't have a team that has a positive goal differential
5. Fsa lost the annual college commit list competition
6. Fsa was supposed to get all the best ow girls (again). This year because of GDA
7 Fsa lost the 2017-2018 try outs for next year, losing out not only on the best outside players, but also lost thier own ecnl players to cfc united.
8 Fsa lost the ecnl npl battle as well

In summary, Fsa just lost! Haven't seen a more miserable campaign since the soccer plus years.

Let's review the facts not emotional insecure thoughts:

2015-2016 season
You'll have to admit FSA had the better of CFC in the 2015-2016 season with almost identical records but a one game FSA head to head advantage.

2016-2017 season
CFC wins head to by two games, and three draws. Both CFC wins are 2-1 scores.

Among other ECNL competition CFC leading by 7 wins, FSA by 1 draw (FSA 11-41-15), (CFC 18-33-14) but that is mostly because of the CFC U15 and U16 teams which are clearly better and the only teams that beat FSA by a score of 2-1 head to head. If you dig into the standings you conclude the following:

U14, FSA the better team, much better quality wins/draws than CFC
U15, CFC the better team
U16, CFC the better team,
U17, Slight edge to FSA
U18, Same

There is some light this year between clubs but not by much. Since the start of the 2015 season 364 ECNL games have been played between the clubs and CFC has a 9 win advantage over FSA. Draws are equal. That my friend, is razor thin. To the OPs point, CFC should have a much record over FSA given the demographics advantage they have but they clearly don't.

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Just looked at the CFC ECNL team postings. 3 current Oakwood girls on there.

Not quite the mass exodus all you antagonists were predicting eh?

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This was supposed to be the year, what happened?
1. Fsa behind cfc in the standings in all 6 ecnl age groups, u14-u18/19
2. Fsa lost the head to head battle
3. Fsa doesn't have a team that finished better than .500
4. Fsa doesn't have a team that has a positive goal differential
5. Fsa lost the annual college commit list competition
6. Fsa was supposed to get all the best ow girls (again). This year because of GDA
7 Fsa lost the 2017-2018 try outs for next year, losing out not only on the best outside players, but also lost thier own ecnl players to cfc united.
8 Fsa lost the ecnl npl battle as well

In summary, Fsa just lost! Haven't seen a more miserable campaign since the soccer plus years.

1. Doesn't matter. Standings are not the relevant to anyone who truly understands the point of ECNL. Only matters to those who need some confirmation they made the "right" choice. And it doesn't even tell them that. Standings are about sales and marketing to the naive parent.

2. So what? Is it important to you who won head to head? Why?

3. So what? What importance is this?

4. Based on your third point, why would you expect otherwise? You are being redundant. This is just filler tripe designed to reinforce your obscure point.

5. Prove it. What even makes this a competition? How many kids from each club seeking a college placement failed to get an offer? How many who did, failed to get an offer from their school of choice and settled for some place else? Without any of this information, your decision as to which club did "better", is woefully incomplete and says little about comparative success for either club.

6. How do you know if FSA was "supposed" to get anyone? Since when is online speculation a determinant of anything?

7. Pure speculation again. What criteria are you using to determine who is best and who is not?

8. What the bell is an ECNL NPL battle? Is this some fantasy of yours?


Just how desperate are you to validate your soccer investment into your kid?

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1. Doesn't matter. Standings are not the relevant to anyone who truly understands the point of ECNL. Only matters to those who need some confirmation they made the "right" choice. And it doesn't even tell them that. Standings are about sales and marketing to the naive parent.

2. So what? Is it important to you who won head to head? Why?

3. So what? What importance is this?

4. Based on your third point, why would you expect otherwise? You are being redundant. This is just filler tripe designed to reinforce your obscure point.

5. Prove it. What even makes this a competition? How many kids from each club seeking a college placement failed to get an offer? How many who did, failed to get an offer from their school of choice and settled for some place else? Without any of this information, your decision as to which club did "better", is woefully incomplete and says little about comparative success for either club.

6. How do you know if FSA was "supposed" to get anyone? Since when is online speculation a determinant of anything?

7. Pure speculation again. What criteria are you using to determine who is best and who is not?

8. What the bell is an ECNL NPL battle? Is this some fantasy of yours?


Just how desperate are you to validate your soccer investment into your kid?

You know what? After three years of FSA talking about how they were going to be the destination club in CT and would easily surpass CFC, suddenly NOW none of it matters? Give me a break. If the FSA fan base finally admits they have big mouths, have failed to backup their boasting, and that the competition in and out of state is stiffer than they thought, people will leave them alone. Until then, as an OW parent who has seen more than our share of comments from FSA faithful, FSA is reaping what they sowed.

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You know what? After three years of FSA talking about how they were going to be the destination club in CT and would easily surpass CFC, suddenly NOW none of it matters? Give me a break. If the FSA fan base finally admits they have big mouths, have failed to backup their boasting, and that the competition in and out of state is stiffer than they thought, people will leave them alone. Until then, as an OW parent who has seen more than our share of comments from FSA faithful, FSA is reaping what they sowed.

^^^ True statement. Personally, I see nothing wrong with healthy competition between clubs. At the end of the year, congratulate the one that comes out on top. No need for it to turn nasty. The days when clubs actually played in the state cup were fun. Club pride is great but let's not go overboard.

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You know what? After three years of FSA talking about how they were going to be the destination club in CT and would easily surpass CFC, suddenly NOW none of it matters? Give me a break. If the FSA fan base finally admits they have big mouths, have failed to backup their boasting, and that the competition in and out of state is stiffer than they thought, people will leave them alone. Until then, as an OW parent who has seen more than our share of comments from FSA faithful, FSA is reaping what they sowed.

FSA is built upon monetary capital. They have lots of $ that they will throw at anything to solve problems. OW and CFC's capital is purely soccer knowledge. They have knowledge about the game. If FSA wants to take the next step they need to get rid to S+ coaches and SS and have an over haul of everything that they do. They will be very lucky to fill two teams per age group next year.

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You know what? After three years of FSA talking about how they were going to be the destination club in CT and would easily surpass CFC, suddenly NOW none of it matters? Give me a break. If the FSA fan base finally admits they have big mouths, have failed to backup their boasting, and that the competition in and out of state is stiffer than they thought, people will leave them alone. Until then, as an OW parent who has seen more than our share of comments from FSA faithful, FSA is reaping what they sowed.

I posted the comment you are responding to here and I have no kids at any of these clubs. I just coach. I do not coach for any of these "super" clubs, so I believe I offer an impartial perspective.

None of this ever mattered, except to those selling their club, naive parents or those trying to "feel good" about this significant financial investment.

The lunacy from those who post here in support of FSA, CFC, Oakwood, Yankee, Sporting is pretty much indistinguishable from one another. Like politicians, you fabricate proofs to support your bias. You invent points of club competition to validate your hollow conclusions. You thrive on alternative facts.

It's really a shame. You do nothing to really help your club here and take any meaningful soccer dialogue and reduce it to club lampooning and chest pounding.

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I posted the comment you are responding to here and I have no kids at any of these clubs. I just coach. I do not coach for any of these "super" clubs, so I believe I offer an impartial perspective.

None of this ever mattered, except to those selling their club, naive parents or those trying to "feel good" about this significant financial investment.

The lunacy from those who post here in support of FSA, CFC, Oakwood, Yankee, Sporting is pretty much indistinguishable from one another. Like politicians, you fabricate proofs to support your bias. You invent points of club competition to validate your hollow conclusions. You thrive on alternative facts.

It's really a shame. You do nothing to really help your club here and take any meaningful soccer dialogue and reduce it to club lampooning and chest pounding.

Not the poster above, but I don't have a problem with healthy banter as long as it stays healthy. Competition isn't a bad thing. Those that don't like it must lose quite a bit and are probably the ones who support the NFL banning celebrations for scoring. If you don't like it, do better.

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FSA is built upon monetary capital. They have lots of $ that they will throw at anything to solve problems. OW and CFC's capital is purely soccer knowledge. They have knowledge about the game. If FSA wants to take the next step they need to get rid to S+ coaches and SS and have an over haul of everything that they do. They will be very lucky to fill two teams per age group next year.

Another ludicrous contention.

Oakwood and CFC are as much about the money and profits as FSA.

None of these clubs are world beaters in any capacity and each of them has a lot of work to do to stand alongside the upper echelon of regional clubs here in New England.

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FSA is built upon monetary capital. They have lots of $ that they will throw at anything to solve problems. OW and CFC's capital is purely soccer knowledge. They have knowledge about the game. If FSA wants to take the next step they need to get rid to S+ coaches and SS and have an over haul of everything that they do. They will be very lucky to fill two teams per age group next year.

I actually don't think the S+ staff is the problem. They have some very good coaches. Always have. The problem is what you touch on. FSA is a money grab. The people that own it aren't soccer people and are looking only at the bottom line. That's why they have three teams in an age group and train less than other clubs. It maximizes profit in the short run, but hurts the club in the long run. Too many teams opens the door for more complaints. What should happen is the S+ coaches should leave and join forces with CFC or OW. If that happened, FSA would be sitting on its wonderful facility and watch it collect cobwebs.

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Another ludicrous contention.

Oakwood and CFC are as much about the money and profits as FSA.

None of these clubs are world beaters in any capacity and each of them has a lot of work to do to stand alongside the upper echelon of regional clubs here in New England.

I disagree. Sure, all clubs look to make money, but not to the extent of FSA. OW doesn't have 2 or 3 teams per age group, although with the GDAP will be adding three additional teams. CFC has multiple teams in an age group but it is from the entire state and not just the Farmington Valley. That's the problem. FSA is too big for the area they draw from and it makes them look poor. It takes the focus off their good teams when they have so many awful ones. IMO, they should field only one team per age group or maybe just an ECNL and then a state team that plays weak competition. Narrow their focus. They won't do that bc they have bills to pay, but it's what they should do if they want to improve on the field and in perception.

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I disagree. Sure, all clubs look to make money, but not to the extent of FSA. OW doesn't have 2 or 3 teams per age group, although with the GDAP will be adding three additional teams. CFC has multiple teams in an age group but it is from the entire state and not just the Farmington Valley. That's the problem. FSA is too big for the area they draw from and it makes them look poor. It takes the focus off their good teams when they have so many awful ones. IMO, they should field only one team per age group or maybe just an ECNL and then a state team that plays weak competition. Narrow their focus. They won't do that bc they have bills to pay, but it's what they should do if they want to improve on the field and in perception.

OW can't field 3 teams per age group if they wanted to. Not enough population on that side of the river nor do they have the coaching staff to support it. If FSA was a pure money grab they would have the highest priced ECNL rosters of 22-25 like CFC does but FSA's are much smaller.