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    #61
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    LOL They are a joke and just stole another GPS coach.
    Stole? Give me a break. Coaches move around. Coach Sam Matteson just left Bolts to go to GPS. Did GPS steal him?

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      #62
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      LOL They are a joke and just stole another GPS coach.
      Who? Who? Who?

      Seems like ‘a taste of your own medicine’ is in full effect

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        #63
        How can people not see this league isn’t a good step for players. They will
        Now travel in some cases a 6 hour round trip for a game against average opposition?

        Talk about the nep but they have regionalized brackets in all age groups outside of the top 2-3 divisions. Not one of these edp clubs is going to have a team capable of competing with a top ny or ct team, not one of these clubs would place any higher than the championship in the nep. So again, how is this a good move for any player? Parents who have their kids do this should take a long hard look at themselves.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Stole? Give me a break. Coaches move around. Coach Sam Matteson just left Bolts to go to GPS. Did GPS steal him?
          Looks like juventus are bringing in staff to get rid of RG. Shame won’t be long now until he’s forgotten

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            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Looks like juventus are bringing in staff to get rid of RG. Shame won’t be long now until he’s forgotten
            They’ve got Ferdinando De Matthaeis 😮!!

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              #66
              BA is one of the very best around. He will continue to develop players’ and become one of the most sought after coaches in MA

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                #67
                EDP Pathway

                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                A NEP club would play EDP because...

                1. EDP would be a neutral decision maker rather than 6 NEP clubs making decisions on behalf of 24. Ownership group nothing like NEP.

                2. They allow teams to move up and down based on results instead of politics. That would actually allow for appropriate games all over.

                3. At the very top, the USYS pathway is stronger than US Club (not including DA or ECNL of course but even boys National League looks stronger in some areas than Boys ECNL)

                4. Proven track record of running successful leagues all over the region.

                What is the equivalent level of competitive play to ECNL/DA within EDP?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  What is the equivalent level of competitive play to ECNL/DA within EDP?
                  There isn't. DA is top on boys side. There is no higher level of play and the reality is there is a gap between most MLS DA Academy teams and non-MLS DA academy teams. The Revs may or may not be the exception to the rule, but in the rest of the country, MLS DA is the top of the heap and DA trumps ECNL/NPL/NEP/EDP and anything else the competition comes up with.

                  On the girls side, ECNL and DA are equal but with separate paths. One provides great exposure and a direct path to D1/2 college soccer coaches and teams. The other is supposed to be more about WNT scouts and exposure while college coaches also recruit from there. Given the latest exclusion of ECNL players from YNT invites, the reality is if your kid is on the YNT radar, they should be playing GDA. If the goal is just D1/D2 college, ECNL has a good path. Everything else is too watered down and certainly inferior in terms of competition.

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                    #69
                    Too bad some Npl teams beat up on Ecnl ,your logic is flawed.

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                      #70
                      EDP Pathway

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      There isn't. DA is top on boys side. There is no higher level of play and the reality is there is a gap between most MLS DA Academy teams and non-MLS DA academy teams. The Revs may or may not be the exception to the rule, but in the rest of the country, MLS DA is the top of the heap and DA trumps ECNL/NPL/NEP/EDP and anything else the competition comes up with.

                      On the girls side, ECNL and DA are equal but with separate paths. One provides great exposure and a direct path to D1/2 college soccer coaches and teams. The other is supposed to be more about WNT scouts and exposure while college coaches also recruit from there. Given the latest exclusion of ECNL players from YNT invites, the reality is if your kid is on the YNT radar, they should be playing GDA. If the goal is just D1/D2 college, ECNL has a good path. Everything else is too watered down and certainly inferior in terms of competition.
                      Thank you, very helpful. If the end game is ECNL/DA (asking for two kids, girl and boy, both U14) do they already need to be in clubs with ECNL/DA affiliations? Or can they develop within EDP, and then later join clubs with those connections and/or attend tryouts. (Yes, I’m aware that the notion EDP can even develop a player is controversial, but still considering the league). TIA

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Too bad some Npl teams beat up on Ecnl ,your logic is flawed.
                        This is MA. Please tell me what girls NPL teams beat up FC Stars or Scorpions ECNL National teams. Yes there are weaker ECNL teams outside of New England, but that is also the case with NPL and not relevant to the general conversation. Look at rosters of D1 colleges. How many former ECNL players are there vs NPL? Hate to break it to you but college coaches have this figured out even if you don’t.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Thank you, very helpful. If the end game is ECNL/DA (asking for two kids, girl and boy, both U14) do they already need to be in clubs with ECNL/DA affiliations? Or can they develop within EDP, and then later join clubs with those connections and/or attend tryouts. (Yes, I’m aware that the notion EDP can even develop a player is controversial, but still considering the league). TIA
                          There is time on the boys side as recruiting is a little later than with girls. On the girls side you need to try and break in on a DA/ECNL team for U16 if D1/2 is the goal. Sophomore year is a big showcase year for girls and with the new rule change, coaches can make direct contact June 15 after sophomore year. If you can make the team as a U15, great, but definitely by U16.

                          Having said that, if the player is good enough, they can still get recruited regardless of what team or league, but it is much harder and requires attending ID sessions to try and get coaches attention.

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                            #73
                            We just recently moved here from NJ. EDP is an extremely flawed league. As a former admin at a fairly large club, I can tell you that the administrative side of EDP is a mess. Clubs face no consequences if they do not want to play another team, Teams are flighted incorrectly and often are placed in division where they are over their head in or they crush all their competition, and the travel to games is absurd

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              We just recently moved here from NJ. EDP is an extremely flawed league. As a former admin at a fairly large club, I can tell you that the administrative side of EDP is a mess. Clubs face no consequences if they do not want to play another team, Teams are flighted incorrectly and often are placed in division where they are over their head in or they crush all their competition, and the travel to games is absurd
                              Thank you Sean.

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                                #75
                                To think, it started with one league; MAPLE; which was bolstered by having to apply and qualify for regional play. ODP had significance then and was some kind of path to national play/training. There was also, at that time, the Super Y league, which GPS populated.

                                The academy started 9 years ago in some effort to form better National teams. This took away from ODP and minimally from region 1. With the start of the DAP and before the NEP started, Massachusetts boys were dominated by the FC Blazers.

                                Feeling left out and wanting to count for something, GPS with the support of the Bolts started NEP. MAPLE had this 'unwelcoming' format of 'promotion and relegation'. If you won, you advanced and if you lost you got dropped. Hmmm.... The Bolts having placed their better players in the preAcademy and the Academy, now saw all their other teams struggling in the 'lowly' MAPLE divisions. The NEP gave them some chance to stay significant aside from the Academy. GPS saw a league that they could control. Hence the NEP started. The Bolts, in the NEP still sucked, while GPS found some kind of dominance. Once NEFC joined the NEP, MAPLE declined rapidly.

                                Meanwhile, Region 1 play seems insignificant for New England teams and who knows what ODP is anymore.

                                What now?? Boys ECNL!!!!!!!!!!

                                Now MAPLE is gone having had the remaining teams converted to a region 1 branch. Now the significant MAPLE teams have either independently joined NEP or did so by joining a larger club like GPS (e.g. GPS Hammer), while the better region 1 New England branch teams are leaving to join the EDP.

                                The EDP is a very competitive league up and down the east coast that has multiple divisions that are determined by 'promotion and relegation'. For a year...maybe two, Valeo was playing EDP. The problem with EDP....if you are not in the top division.....is the travel up and down the east coast for lower tier divisions.

                                Is this different then NEP teams traveling 2-3 hours for lower division games? Maybe not, but the EDP games will require more than 2-3 hours for travel to get down to NJ and PA.

                                Things sure seemed a lot simpler when MAPLE was the one main league, Regional play was the higher level, and ODP had significance.

                                But.....clearly with the new multiple league system....DA, ECNL, NPL, NEP, EDP.....things are so much better......................

                                Happy to be getting out of this mess soon.

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