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- there's more spots than talent
- there's more leagues than clubs that should be in them
- clubs are businesses, even those claiming to be non profit
- parents need to look out for their kids
- parents are terrible assessing their kid's talent
- parents are terrible assessing coaching talent
- coaches are terrible at assessing talent
- coaches are dumber than a box of rocks
- you pay this guy to coach your kid soccer but otherwise they are an idiot and you would never pay them to anything else for you
- there's way too much travel and cost
- the over-supply of teams and spots and leagues leaves coaches playing to win (to attract more players) rather than take a long term approach to development
I combined and added some more. It's no wonder parents are fed up with all of it and participation is down
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post- there's more spots than talent
- there's more leagues than clubs that should be in them
- clubs are businesses, even those claiming to be non profit
- parents need to look out for their kids
- parents are terrible assessing their kid's talent
- parents are terrible assessing coaching talent
- coaches are terrible at assessing talent
- coaches are dumber than a box of rocks
- you pay this guy to coach your kid soccer but otherwise they are an idiot and you would never pay them to anything else for you
- there's way too much travel and cost
- the over-supply of teams and spots and leagues leaves coaches playing to win (to attract more players) rather than take a long term approach to development
I combined and added some more. It's no wonder parents are fed up with all of it and participation is down
If your kid is happy stay where you are. Stop chasing the dream of others and enjoy the experience. Accept spots if offered; if not, move on
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf your kid is happy stay where you are. Stop chasing the dream of others and enjoy the experience. Accept spots if offered; if not, move on
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Offers haven't gone out at our club, at least not the bulk of our offers. It is way too early to assume that your kid is being dropped or won't get a good spot next year.
Some offers will go out in May, but the bulk will go out early June.
If you are worried about getting sent down or hopeful about getting moved up I think it's totally appropriate to schedule a feedback session with your coach. You can ask what your kid needs to improve upon to move up, or what her weaknesses are, etc. You cannot ask where they are going to place him/her next year.
Good luck!
P.S. My kid got one of the last offers last year and is still a starter/main player. Sometimes it is about more than just your kid. I wouldn't worry too much.
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Yes, if your coach or club finds out they are going to be pissed and take it out on the player. Unfortunately. I heard last year that one of the coaches from our club either went to try outs or asked a coach who was a friend at another club if any of our players went to tryouts. It was not pretty the next practice.
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You gotta do what you gotta do...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYes, if your coach or club finds out they are going to be pissed and take it out on the player. Unfortunately. I heard last year that one of the coaches from our club either went to try outs or asked a coach who was a friend at another club if any of our players went to tryouts. It was not pretty the next practice.
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You gotta do what you gotta do...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTaking it out on kids shows you what kind of person they are, specifically someone you don't want coaching your kid. Odd how clubs expect loyalty from players but clubs are quick to cut players for the next shiny object.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBelieve me, all these coaches talk and they all know who is trying out where, or if one of their players had an unofficial tryout (attended a practice at another club). There are no secrets. And, parents are more than happy to spread the gossip who they saw at their club tryouts. If you go to any practice with another club, word always gets back.
Why teach your kid to be sneaky? You are looking because something is telling you to (style of play, cost, coaching, people, proximity). If you were happy, you wouldn't be testing the waters.
And, YOU pay the fee. So, you are in the driver's seat. If you are a good coach/good club, you welcome kids looking elsewhere (again, there is a variety of reasons..not always is it bad...could be closer to home; cost); and maybe even leaving and coming back if it doesn't work out.
Teach respect and you get respect back.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhen my kid was trying out for another team, we told our coach. Was he happy, no, but we are upfront about this stuff. There is no exclusivity on clubs and each club has a different philosophy/style of play. How do you know what works for you unless you try it and see if it does or not?
Why teach your kid to be sneaky? You are looking because something is telling you to (style of play, cost, coaching, people, proximity). If you were happy, you wouldn't be testing the waters.
And, YOU pay the fee. So, you are in the driver's seat. If you are a good coach/good club, you welcome kids looking elsewhere (again, there is a variety of reasons..not always is it bad...could be closer to home; cost); and maybe even leaving and coming back if it doesn't work out.
Teach respect and you get respect back.
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Agree with previous poster 100% the coaching world is a small community. The coaches of smaller clubs are naturally more concerned about getting picked over. If you have 2 kids who are basically equal and one states they are thinking of leaving, why not work harder to keep the other kid and not risk losing two. Funny how Coaches are always much nicer in mid-spring when tryout season starts
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgree with previous poster 100% the coaching world is a small community. The coaches of smaller clubs are naturally more concerned about getting picked over. If you have 2 kids who are basically equal and one states they are thinking of leaving, why not work harder to keep the other kid and not risk losing two. Funny how Coaches are always much nicer in mid-spring when tryout season starts
We have created a virtually endless recycling program
As for dumb, I think mirrors speak volumes...
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I’m interested in the ages of your kid if you feel like you have choices for a club. In our age group Stars is the only club with talent if you have a private school kid who can’t play da. Going to tryouts for another team would be taking a serious step down in terms of teammate ability. So do I love everything? Nope. But there’s not a good alternative in our age group.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI’m interested in the ages of your kid if you feel like you have choices for a club. In our age group Stars is the only club with talent if you have a private school kid who can’t play da. Going to tryouts for another team would be taking a serious step down in terms of teammate ability. So do I love everything? Nope. But there’s not a good alternative in our age group.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI’m interested in the ages of your kid if you feel like you have choices for a club. In our age group Stars is the only club with talent if you have a private school kid who can’t play da. Going to tryouts for another team would be taking a serious step down in terms of teammate ability. So do I love everything? Nope. But there’s not a good alternative in our age group.
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