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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Split into two separate companies. Mens NT and Womens NT. Then it is pretty clear how much each is making and where the money is going to. That would solve the first part of this problem. Gives each party a clear pictures of profitability so they can negotiate from there.

    I suspect the men would not like that because most sponsors would pile on to the WNT. They are super successful, attractive and have marketable personalities for the most part.
    True, ask most USA sports enthusiasts to name a player on USMNT? Not soccer guy just sports fan.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Split into two separate companies. Mens NT and Womens NT. Then it is pretty clear how much each is making and where the money is going to. That would solve the first part of this problem. Gives each party a clear pictures of profitability so they can negotiate from there.

      I suspect the men would not like that because most sponsors would pile on to the WNT. They are super successful, attractive and have marketable personalities for the most part.
      The problem is that the woman's popularity ends at our borders. The men's team still earns decent money when playing international games because the rest of the world doesn't give a crap about the women's game.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The problem is that the woman's popularity ends at our borders. The men's team still earns decent money when playing international games because the rest of the world doesn't give a crap about the women's game.
        Yet still the Women out earned the men for US Soccer? Where would US Soccer be without the Women's team and the endorsement deals they bring to the table. The men would probably still have Tecate and Umbro without the Womens side but I don't think that those two get it done.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Yet still the Women out earned the men for US Soccer? Where would US Soccer be without the Women's team and the endorsement deals they bring to the table. The men would probably still have Tecate and Umbro without the Womens side but I don't think that those two get it done.
          The men earned far more than the women for most of the past three decades. The only exception is the recent blip when the men managed to fail to qualify for both the Olympics and the World Cup. It is not the norm.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The men earned far more than the women for most of the past three decades. The only exception is the recent blip when the men managed to fail to qualify for both the Olympics and the World Cup. It is not the norm.
            But but buuuuuuut!!!!

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              US Soccer argues male players have more skill than female players and should be paid more?
              Judge rules for the federation, although not on the "more skill than female" argument. A couple of claims remain, but judge rejected the unequal pay claim. Pretty devastating decision.

              http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/socc...b7Kz&ocid=iehp

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Judge rules for the federation, although not on the "more skill than female" argument. A couple of claims remain, but judge rejected the unequal pay claim. Pretty devastating decision.

                http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/socc...b7Kz&ocid=iehp
                Not surprising since it is fact.

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                  He did not rule unequal skill. He ruled that they bargained for and agreed to contract terms. Then later wanted to change that. Maybe read the actual ruling opinion?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    He did not rule unequal skill. He ruled that they bargained for and agreed to contract terms. Then later wanted to change that. Maybe read the actual ruling opinion?
                    The bit of a surprise is that the judge ruled for US Soccer on the turf issue.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      He did not rule unequal skill. He ruled that they bargained for and agreed to contract terms. Then later wanted to change that. Maybe read the actual ruling opinion?
                      You can't make a ruling on Fact; (unequal skill).
                      Did he also happen to make a ruling their is a Moon & Sun in our solar system?

                      Princess, please let it rest your attempts to bring it again only reinforce a species reality of unequal skill for women.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        He did not rule unequal skill. He ruled that they bargained for and agreed to contract terms. Then later wanted to change that. Maybe read the actual ruling opinion?
                        It is just commentary of that fact stated (men are more skillful) had no bearing outside the misguided hysteria around the unequal pay facade.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          It is just commentary of that fact stated (men are more skillful) had no bearing outside the misguided hysteria around the unequal pay facade.
                          Imagine the USMNT that didn't qualify for World Cup playing the USWNT that has won the last few World Cups. If you think the USWNT would even get out of their own half, you are delusional. There is a skill difference.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Imagine the USMNT that didn't qualify for World Cup playing the USWNT that has won the last few World Cups. If you think the USWNT would even get out of their own half, you are delusional. There is a skill difference.

                            The women bring in more gross revenue. The fact that men are stronger and faster is not the issue. The women bring in more gross revenue. The below the line allocations of expenses like NWSL are managerial issues.

                            The women are super successful. The men are miserable and unsuccessful.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The women bring in more gross revenue. The fact that men are stronger and faster is not the issue. The women bring in more gross revenue. The below the line allocations of expenses like NWSL are managerial issues.

                              The women are super successful. The men are miserable and unsuccessful.
                              To your point they are playing against women.

                              Let's have the men's team play against women they wouldn't be super successful they would set new records for goals scored talking 30 to 50 goals per match against the women, I guess it's interesting how you define successful.

                              the judge knew this, as it related to equal pay for equal work & beating women is not something people should get paid very well for...too low a bar.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The women bring in more gross revenue. The fact that men are stronger and faster is not the issue. The women bring in more gross revenue. The below the line allocations of expenses like NWSL are managerial issues.

                                The women are super successful. The men are miserable and unsuccessful.
                                The USMNT is an embarrassment to our country. They look like they don't like each other and have really bad attitudes about it.

                                The USWNT is dominant and they have really likable personalities thus all the endorsement income.

                                They really ought to just kill the men's program and put it out of it's misery.

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