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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt is terrible...
However, this is a result of an education system that sees learning and students as customers. Selling a product (education) trying to maximize profit. Telling everyone they need an education - because they needed the customers. Can't afford it, no problem, get a loan. Not unlike the mortgage loan scams that resulted in Great Recession.
A electrician makes 120k a year at age 22. They buy their own truck and a second and are making 500k by 30. But nobody paid to go to college to prop up a system that really doesn't provide society what it needs. It's not the 1800's where higher education is needed to educated a generation of engineers, or lawyers, or doctors, or military tacticians. The origins of colleges and universities.
You don't need to go to college to be social worker and the education for many jobs can be had through on the job training.
Now, add in people that pay too much for an useless "education" so their kid can play soccer...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt is terrible...
However, this is a result of an education system that sees learning and students as customers. Selling a product (education) trying to maximize profit. Telling everyone they need an education - because they needed the customers. Can't afford it, no problem, get a loan. Not unlike the mortgage loan scams that resulted in Great Recession.
A electrician makes 120k a year at age 22. They buy their own truck and a second and are making 500k by 30. But nobody paid to go to college to prop up a system that really doesn't provide society what it needs. It's not the 1800's where higher education is needed to educated a generation of engineers, or lawyers, or doctors, or military tacticians. The origins of colleges and universities.
You don't need to go to college to be social worker and the education for many jobs can be had through on the job training.
Now, add in people that pay too much for an useless "education" so their kid can play soccer...
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI don’t think many electricians are making 500k/year.
Someone who run an electrical business, fixing people's wiring for money, might GROSS $120k/year, even if it's a one-man shop. But that's gross receipts, from which one must deduct all sorts of business expenses (supplies, taxes, licenses, self-employment taxes, the cost of the truck, rent if there's an office), the net is going to be well under $100k.
Still a better gig than what a generic liberal arts degree will qualify you for, but electricians are not getting paid like dentists. You're better off being a director of coaching.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt is terrible...
However, this is a result of an education system that sees learning and students as customers. Selling a product (education) trying to maximize profit. Telling everyone they need an education - because they needed the customers. Can't afford it, no problem, get a loan. Not unlike the mortgage loan scams that resulted in Great Recession.
A electrician makes 120k a year at age 22. They buy their own truck and a second and are making 500k by 30. But nobody paid to go to college to prop up a system that really doesn't provide society what it needs. It's not the 1800's where higher education is needed to educated a generation of engineers, or lawyers, or doctors, or military tacticians. The origins of colleges and universities.
You don't need to go to college to be social worker and the education for many jobs can be had through on the job training.
Now, add in people that pay too much for an useless "education" so their kid can play soccer...
Okay. Except no electrician I know makes 120k by 22 or 500k by 30. And electricians do pay - big bucks - to go to technical training programs. You might not call those "college." But they are institutes of higher education, they are generally for profit, and in order to make this fictitious 120k or 500k, one would need to complete these programs.
Okay. So you're saying that our nation trained all the engineers, doctors, lawyers, and military tacticians needed in the 1800's? So I guess your family physician just celebrated his 140th birthday? And there's no need to train any future engineers, doctors, lawyers, or military tacticians because the ones we have wlll never die and never retire.
Okay. Except you do need to go to college - and graduate - to be a social worker. I'm not sure if you are disparaging social workers or students who choose that field of study. Can you elaborate?
Okay. So you're saying education is useless, it costs too much, and (some) people pay for it only so their kids can continue playing soccer. First point is wrong, second point I agree with (and what is your solution aside from complaining?), and third point may be true (although it's none of your business). But, like your entire post, you're missing the point. There are plenty of student athletes at Concordia who are receiving substantial and/or even full aid packages. Those kids are screwed now. But by all means continue to push your ridiculous agenda that higher education is a scam.
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Boys soccer
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis leaves Oregon with only one D2 school - Western Oregon. Who seems to be shooting for a 50 player roster next year.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis leaves zero boys D2 soccer programs in Oregon. The girls can fall off a turnip truck and find a program with money to give them. Not so much for boys
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgree that it is much easier for girls to get athletic sports scholarship money but there are plenty of other colleges in Oregon and the country that these players can easily go to to finish their degrees. The real bummer is all the staff who lost their jobs, health benefits and such with a tough outlook for finding replacement work.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgreed. Timing is especially bad for the coaching staffs given that every other program has finalized their hiring. Concordia women's coach would have been a much better fit as an assistant as OSU than the Crossfire guy, but now it's too late. I don't think there are any coaching jobs open in Oregon at all at this point. Unfortunate timing by the school.
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Bad timing ?
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgreed. Timing is especially bad for the coaching staffs given that every other program has finalized their hiring. Concordia women's coach would have been a much better fit as an assistant as OSU than the Crossfire guy, but now it's too late. I don't think there are any coaching jobs open in Oregon at all at this point. Unfortunate timing by the school.
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Gut wrenching
Yeah uhh just terrible, about a third of all the men’s and women’s soccer players were from Portland Metro ? I don’t think we are going to miss much locally from these guys closing the door
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It’s temporary.
They will claim bankruptcy, open up again and go back to NAIA where it’s 80% cheaper and the level of play isn’t much different
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