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    Girls D3 recruiting question??

    We know that D 1 & 2 can offer scholarships so you can weigh two different offers but since D3 cannot and only give merit money how can a player weigh two different offers if made during their junior year as those $$$ numbers aren't known yet? Do those D3 coaches give some kind of financial parameters of what to expect?

    #2
    It is against the NCAA rules to tie merit money to athletics so a coach is not going to be able to speak with any degree of certainty what sort of merit money offer a prospective applicant might get. They generally can't even guarantee with any degree of certainty that an applicant will get into the school so there really isn't much for you to weigh here. Either your child likes the school and feels it is a fit or they don't, don't complicate the situation by trying to make soccer something it isn't at this level - a deal maker. Pick the school based upon the academic fit, the soccer will work itself out.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      It is against the NCAA rules to tie merit money to athletics so a coach is not going to be able to speak with any degree of certainty what sort of merit money offer a prospective applicant might get. They generally can't even guarantee with any degree of certainty that an applicant will get into the school so there really isn't much for you to weigh here. Either your child likes the school and feels it is a fit or they don't, don't complicate the situation by trying to make soccer something it isn't at this level - a deal maker. Pick the school based upon the academic fit, the soccer will work itself out.
      The reality for many d3 families is that their child likes a few schools and it is going to come down to who offers the best financial aid package. This is why many d3 girls don't commit until senior year.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It is against the NCAA rules to tie merit money to athletics so a coach is not going to be able to speak with any degree of certainty what sort of merit money offer a prospective applicant might get. They generally can't even guarantee with any degree of certainty that an applicant will get into the school so there really isn't much for you to weigh here. Either your child likes the school and feels it is a fit or they don't, don't complicate the situation by trying to make soccer something it isn't at this level - a deal maker. Pick the school based upon the academic fit, the soccer will work itself out.
        admissions will do a pre-read on current grades and financial info......right on target

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          admissions will do a pre-read on current grades and financial info......right on target
          Same here - We got a pre-read summer of junior year (boy) for two D3s. Estimate for the one he applied for was pretty spot on.

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            #6
            Agree with the previous posters - you do have to trust the coach and sometimes "pre-admissions" backfires but I also think sometimes parents hear what they want. Our experience was exactly as the coach said it would be.

            I would recommend using the financial calculator that schools are required to have on their websites. Complete that, particularly if you are not comfortable having this conversation with the coach which they basically don't know the answers anyway, and it will give you a very accurate picture of what to expect. Every school is different so don't complete one and think that covers all the ones you may be looking at.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The reality for many d3 families is that their child likes a few schools and it is going to come down to who offers the best financial aid package. This is why many d3 girls don't commit until senior year.
              D3 commitment in senior year = admissions acceptance. Commitment implies more than it really is.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                D3 commitment in senior year = admissions acceptance. Commitment implies more than it really is.
                not neccesarily

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  not neccesarily
                  Here we go, let the fantasy begin

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Here we go, let the fantasy begin
                    Oh no...not again... (and I say this as the parent of a kid who also has a D3 "offer")

                    Please...NO....the two are no where near the same thing.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Oh no...not again... (and I say this as the parent of a kid who also has a D3 "offer")

                      Please...NO....the two are no where near the same thing.
                      Should have known when I started reading the thread. Yes it has all the hallmarks of he who shall not be named

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                        #12
                        Why does someone keep insisting that soccer does more at the D3 level than it really does? D3 is not D1 at all. So the "not necessarily" comment is just way off target.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Why does someone keep insisting that soccer does more at the D3 level than it really does? D3 is not D1 at all. So the "not necessarily" comment is just way off target.
                          Women's soccer hardly "does more" at any level, BTNT. In a country of over 300 million people, almost no one cares--except for a couple weeks every four years during the Women's World Cup and the Olympics, after which almost everyone goes back to not caring. But keep holding out hope that your daughter, like a handful others, will become a superstar millionaire via playing D1 soccer. Talk about foolish parents chasing a brass ring.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Agree with the previous posters - you do have to trust the coach and sometimes "pre-admissions" backfires but I also think sometimes parents hear what they want. Our experience was exactly as the coach said it would be.

                            I would recommend using the financial calculator that schools are required to have on their websites. Complete that, particularly if you are not comfortable having this conversation with the coach which they basically don't know the answers anyway, and it will give you a very accurate picture of what to expect. Every school is different so don't complete one and think that covers all the ones you may be looking at.
                            The issue comes in when you think your child might receive merit scholarships. Some schools will add $25k in merit money to the right student. If your child has the grades to compete for that, knowing whether they will get it makes a big difference in how high that school is on their preference list.

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                              #15
                              Exactly. My daughter lagged behind when interest arrived her Sophomore year. She wasn't ready to talk to coaches, research colleges, etc. By the time she was ready, late Junior year, a few doors had closed. She applied to a mix of D1 and D3 schools, all who placed an emphasis on soccer. The mix of offers was interesting, and merit - Presidential scholarships at D3 schools brought the cost down to the level of public colleges, lower than some D1 scholarship-academic need packages.

                              It is more nuanced and complicated than the D1 versus D3 proponents describe here on T-S.

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