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    #91
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Huh. Non profits don't have limits on profits.
    Regardless, it is a $ 70 million dollar a year Athletics Dept. Budget that is as murky as can be. Plenty of tax payer money buried within. A $ 90 million dollar football stadium for 1/2 a dozen or so games a year. Long list of six figure paying " Administration " jobs.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      They sure do but that just puts more money into the athletic budget that needs to be spent down. Non profit means that there are limits to how much the entity can have as a profit. Profit is different than making money.
      Nonprofit corporations, by definition, exist not to make money but to fulfill one of the purposes recognized by federal law: charitable, educational, religious, scientific or literary activities. Under federal tax law and state corporate statutes, however, as long as a nonprofit corporation is organized and operated for a recognized nonprofit purpose, it can take in more money than it expends in conducting its activities. In other words, it can make a profit.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        They sure do but that just puts more money into the athletic budget that needs to be spent down. Non profit means that there are limits to how much the entity can have as a profit. Profit is different than making money.
        What are you talking about? They can make as much as they want and they don't pay taxes on it. Why do you think schools love those big revenue sports like football and basketball? TV revenue and AD dollars = big $$$. There is no limit on profit whatsoever. No do they use those profits to help fund non revenue sport like field hockey and rowing? Of course. Or it can go to offset losses in other areas of a university.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Nonprofit corporations, by definition, exist not to make money but to fulfill one of the purposes recognized by federal law: charitable, educational, religious, scientific or literary activities. Under federal tax law and state corporate statutes, however, as long as a nonprofit corporation is organized and operated for a recognized nonprofit purpose, it can take in more money than it expends in conducting its activities. In other words, it can make a profit.
          Exactly. The only thing that might be different in the case of a school is if there is anything in the school's bylaws or Board of Director guidelines that direct or restrict how any "profits" are used.

          Check out the series they're running on A&E right now about the "Church" of Scientology. Unbelievable how much that supposed non-profit is worth. There's a reason so many entities want to run as a non profit. $$$$$$

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            #95
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Exactly. The only thing that might be different in the case of a school is if there is anything in the school's bylaws or Board of Director guidelines that direct or restrict how any "profits" are used.

            Check out the series they're running on A&E right now about the "Church" of Scientology. Unbelievable how much that supposed non-profit is worth. There's a reason so many entities want to run as a non profit. $$$$$$
            The entire "non-profit" world is a scheme.

            From the Globe today:


            Underpaid? Charity’s board decides yes, pays chief $1.34m extra

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            By Sacha Pfeiffer Globe Staff December 27, 2016

            Combined Jewish Philanthropies of Greater Boston, one of the state’s largest nonprofits, gave longtime president Barry Shrage an unusual $1.34 million payment after deciding he had been underpaid for years.

            The one-time cash payout was called a retirement payment even though Shrage, 69, has no imminent plans to retire. It was made in 2014, on top of his $563,000 in compensation and benefits, but did not have to be disclosed until the organization filed its most recent tax return this year.

            According to the chairman of CJP’s board of directors, Neil Wallack, the payment was authorized after the board compared Shrage’s compensation over the past decade with that of leaders of similar nonprofits and determined he had been consistently underpaid. That opinion was confirmed in an outside consultant’s analysis.


            http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/...O2K/story.html

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              #96
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Man are you ignorant of what college sports are really about. A real dip **** no nothing you are. If you didn't spend all day every day spewing this sort of nonsense it would almost be funny but alas you do and it aint.

              Since most big time college athletic programs are set up as non-profits at a successful college like UConn the women's programs generally are used to spend down profits generated by the football and men's basketball teams. This kid getting run off had absolutely nothing to do with them needing to balance the books. That only happens in your strange fantasy world.
              So it's you who is ignorant, a dip***** nothing and spewing inaccurate garbage ...

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                #97
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                So it's you who is ignorant, a dip***** nothing and spewing inaccurate garbage ...
                So who was the frigging idiot masturbating about UConn soccer players being expendable because no money is generated by the program? You clearly don't know squat about how a big time college sports program works - here's a clue, they don't run it like a NESCAC.

                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The point is women soccer players are expendable due to the lack of money being generated. Who cares about some freshman soccer player when you have a chance at Andrews.

                Stop comparing it to a men's high profile sport and start comparing this to a women's high profile sport like basketball. Never would have happened to anyone on UCONN woman's basketball team.

                It's all about the gold standard.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  So who was the frigging idiot masturbating about UConn soccer players being expendable because no money is generated by the program? You clearly don't know squat about how a big time college sports program works - here's a clue, they don't run it like a NESCAC.
                  Oh such a great comeback after you were owned

                  So players in big time college programs aren't expendable?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Oh such a great comeback after you were owned

                    So players in big time college programs aren't expendable?

                    Stay classy UCONN.....

                    http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/...eleventh-hour/



                    UConn reneges on scholarship offer, ditches N.J. football recruit in 11th hour

                    By Matthew Stanmyre | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
                    on January 17, 2017 7:50 AM, updated January 17, 2017 8:48 AM

                    Ryan Dickens beamed for the crowd Sunday night, his mind racing over all he had accomplished and the future he was ready to tackle.

                    The 6-foot-2, 210-pound senior linebacker from Raritan High School had just been honored with a 2016 Mini Max Award for his football excellence, strong academics and devotion to community service, which includes roles in teen suicide prevention, breast cancer awareness and fundraisers for families in crisis.

                    Dickens also had his most important decision locked up, having verbally committed seven months earlier to accept a scholarship offer to play football for the University of Connecticut. He wore UConn T-shirts to school, chatted in group text messages with other UConn recruits and had already planned to major in business. Now, he was only 17 days from signing his name to a National Letter of Intent and making his dreams official.

                    Or so he thought.

                    Dickens’ cell phone rang while he and his parents, Matt and Patti, were still in the parking lot of the awards banquet in Princeton Junction Sunday night. UConn coach Randy Edsall was on the other end. Ryan Dickens excitedly answered the phone, but in an instant his world was shattered.

                    Edsall was calling to tell Dickens the unthinkable: The school no longer had a scholarship for him.

                    “And the next thing you hear is Ryan’s like, ‘You’re kidding, right?’” Patti Dickens said. “And then he put the phone on speaker and Edsall said, ‘No, Ry, we just decided we’re going to go in another direction. We don’t have a spot for you.’”

                    RELATED: Bennett Jackson helps UConn recruit through process

                    The phone call destroyed seven months of meticulous planning by Dickens, 17, and served as another reminder of the cutthroat world of college football recruiting, where dreams can be made and broken in an instant. Scholarship offers extended by colleges are non-binding agreements — the same as verbal commitments from players. That means schools and athletes have the power to renege on offers and commitments without penalty all the way up until the time National Letters of Intent are signed and faxed into colleges.

                    Seemingly every winter players such as Dickens are on the wrong end of a college’s decision, left empty-handed and uncertain in the eleventh hour as National Signing Day bears down.

                    “The kid’s world went into disarray,” Raritan coach Anthony Petruzzi said. “We’re just trying to pick up the ashes right now and find the best way to move forward.”

                    UConn’s decision to pull Dickens’ scholarship was a gut-punch for several reasons, including the timing, his parents said. Dickens had originally committed to UConn and head coach Bob Diaco in June of 2016, effectively shutting down his recruiting process and prompting him to refuse overtures from other schools.

                    UConn fired Diaco in late December and hired Edsall — who had previously served as head coach of the Huskies from 1999 to 2010 — on Dec. 30. Dickens worried about his scholarship offer, but Edsall called on New Year’s Day to assure Dickens the school still wanted him and his scholarship was safe, his parents said.

                    UConn linebackers coach Jon Wholley even met with Dickens at Raritan Thursday to talk about signing day and his upcoming visit to UConn on Jan. 20, Dickens’ 18th birthday.

                    Three days later, the scholarship was gone.

                    Petruzzi said had they known sooner about UConn's decision they would have had more time to come up with Plan B. Just last week Dickens rebuffed a last-minute inquiry from Monmouth, informing the school he was sticking to his commitment to UConn and the new coaching regime, Petruzzi said. When the Dickens camp scrambled to ask if Monmouth still had interest Monday, the school had already offered his spot to another player, Petruzzi added.

                    Dickens finally got some good news early Tuesday morning: Rhode Island, a Football Championship Subdivision school, offered him a scholarship. Dickens will weigh his options as signing day approaches Feb. 1.

                    “This is a great kid who does everything right,” Patti Dickens said. “He’s an honor-roll student. He runs a charity. He’s in a suicide prevention leadership role. He plays football at a top level. Like, everything right. And this guy broke him. It just blows my mind that a guy can take the wind out of your sails just with no regret. Nothing.”

                    It’s not the first time Edsall has been linked to pulling a scholarship offer late in the game. In January of 2013, when Edsall was head coach at Maryland, the school rescinded an offer to Demetri McGill of Ocean Lakes High in Virginia Beach three weeks before signing day. Chris Scott, McGill’s high school coach, called the move “sad and disappointing” in a story at the time on ultimaterecruit.com.

                    UConn football did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment Monday night.

                    Petruzzi still was fuming Monday as he discussed UConn’s decision. Dickens was an all-state player who racked up more than 300 tackles as a three-year starter and led Raritan to a state title in 2015. He also has a 3.9 grade-point average, competes on the wrestling team and is actively involved in several charities, including the RAINE Foundation, which his family founded and provides food, clothing and other necessities for families in crisis.

                    The coach has been working the phones nonstop since Sunday night, contacting colleges who might have interest in Dickens now that he's available. They have 15 days before singing day.

                    “Ryan stuck by them through their turmoil and their regime change, and now in a crucial moment they’ve decided to let him go,” Petruzzi said. “He’s having a hard time right now realizing that the last seven months of preparation is not going to see itself out. He’s devastated. But he’s a tough kid. He got knocked down today but he’s going to get up tomorrow and realize his dream."

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                      A low thing to do but it happens often enough. Families new to it all don't realize how vulnerable the kids are in all of this - it all favors the school and the coach. Coaches can change their mind easy enough but usually don't unless it's something material - like poor grades or bad behavior. But then coaches change and poof! Offer gone. Can't really blame the new coach for wanting to bring in who he wants, but it's crushing to the ones dropped. It's an even bigger risk for kids that recruit really early as it increases the likelihood of a coach change his mind and/or a coach change.

                      Then there's the likelihood of remaining on a team once in college, which also isn't great

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                        remembered this topic when I came across this story....I wonder if Stanford will reprimand him. Afterall, people actually watch Jeopardy vs women's college playoffs

                        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...l1bj2kpzj8aor&

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                          what has happened with the uconn lawsuits? any update?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            what has happened with the uconn lawsuits? any update?
                            Skippy it's only been two months.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              what has happened with the uconn lawsuits? any update?
                              UCONN will either settle quickly to make it go away, or they'll lawyer up and drag it on for years. There's really no in between in our court system.

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