ISL Boys 2018

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Please. RC only played when OTHER kids were injured. Enough, dad.

Not his dad. He was on the injured list halfway through that term.

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Not his dad. He was on the injured list halfway through that term.

The injured list for hurt egos. No injury kept him off the field.

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I'm the OP - I based everything on 50% of games played (not all games). In addition your're only helping make my point. Most of these all ISLs did not play D1 soccer. Most of these DA players did and the average playing was even higher (albeit with a much smaller sample size). My point is that on average, "ALL-ISL" does not mean really good soccer players. They're all D3 level players most of whom barely play even in D3!!!

Oh--well now the formula is changing. So two starts out of four appearances is now a YES. Stop with the nonsense. And putting aside your premise that UConn is a better choice than Amherst College because D1 is all that matters, the numbers do not support your claim that these kids are "barely" playing--the vast majority are playing quite a bit, some on D1 teams and some on D3 teams.

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Oh--well now the formula is changing. So two starts out of four appearances is now a YES. Stop with the nonsense. And putting aside your premise that UConn is a better choice than Amherst College because D1 is all that matters, the numbers do not support your claim that these kids are "barely" playing--the vast majority are playing quite a bit, some on D1 teams and some on D3 teams.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but do "know" enough to acknowledge that any ISL kid going to any of these colleges, either D1 or D3, to play or not, is WAY ahead in the game of life.

If some bitter person wants to poop his/her shorts about the soccer implications of an all-star list, well, that's on them. No need to get too close to that ****uation. Ah, nevermind, afterall, I did find this thread entertaining.

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Oh--well now the formula is changing. So two starts out of four appearances is now a YES. Stop with the nonsense. And putting aside your premise that UConn is a better choice than Amherst College because D1 is all that matters, the numbers do not support your claim that these kids are "barely" playing--the vast majority are playing quite a bit, some on D1 teams and some on D3 teams.

No one's saying that D1 is all that matters. What the OP IS saying is that MOST of these All-ISL'ers play at a lower level (D3) and many still don't get much playing time. Do your own research. "Much playing time" to some may mean 10 minutes per game but to most it means starting most of their games. Comparing to the revs who are all playing D1 (and the few that play D3 are getting a ton of playing time) proves the OP's point even more! Sheesh - you folks are refusing to acknowledge the obvious. Ego getting in the way?

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No one's saying that D1 is all that matters. What the OP IS saying is that MOST of these All-ISL'ers play at a lower level (D3) and many still don't get much playing time. Do your own research. "Much playing time" to some may mean 10 minutes per game but to most it means starting most of their games. Comparing to the revs who are all playing D1 (and the few that play D3 are getting a ton of playing time) proves the OP's point even more! Sheesh - you folks are refusing to acknowledge the obvious. Ego getting in the way?

Your ego is getting in the way. Your "facts" are simply not true as shown through this thread.

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Your ego is getting in the way. Your "facts" are simply not true as shown through this thread.

Revs parent failed at getting his kid into the ISL. So obvious, now slamming ALL- ISL recipients. Reality check, your Revs kid isn't top tier and no preps really were drooling over him.

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Was thinking about sending my son to ISL next year but you people are nutso.

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Was thinking about sending my son to ISL next year but you people are nutso.

Just one.

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The Final Analysis

Not the OP but I was curious so I checked his/her work. I found some mistakes mainly

JOB is playing much
DM is playing much

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So here are the results (drums please?)

Out of the 32 all-ISLs in 2016

7 (22%) went D1 and 3 out of the 7 (43%) are playing much - not bad!!

15 (47%) went D3 and 8 out of the 15 (53%) are playing much - not bad too!!

3 chose other sports

7 are either not in college or not playing a college sport (as far as I can tell)

...so there you go and You're Welcome.

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If you want to see the raw data it is shown below:

D1
Munch Daniel BB&N Northastern yes started in 12/17 games played
Lage Marcelo Brooks GW yes
Stevens Andrew Brooks Columbia yes
Bryant Ben Roxbury Latin Harvard no 0/4
Ranieri Matt Nobles Dartmouth no 3/16 in 2016 5/15 in 2018
Roberts Jack Nobles Princeton no played 2 games started in 1
Leigh Matt St. Mark's Penn no did not start, got minutes in 15 games
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D3
Martini Augie Lawrence Academy Hobart yes
Kaba Adama St. Sebastian's Northeastern yes
Barsamian Raffi St. Sebastian's Middlebury yes
Kingston Chris Belmont Hill Bowdoin yes
Ranieri Nick Nobles Williams yes
McPherron Max Nobles Bowdoin yes
O'Brien Jack Milton Amherst yes
Sheehan Jack Milton Hamilton yes

Mukala Isaac Lawrence Academy Brandeis no - started in 2 / 12 games played
Sloan Liam Middlesex Middlebury no played 1 game / did not start
Hawkins Paul Rivers Colby no 1/5
Steele Dylan Brooks Amherst no 2017 1/6 2018 0/5
Chaban Alex Brooks Bowdoin no 4/16
Garner Christian Brooks BC no 0/1
Schmitz Cole St. Mark's Wash U (D3) no 2018 started 1/8 games played 2017 did not start. played in 4 games

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Different Sport
Cronin Robbie Belmont Hill Baseball
Sanderson James Middlesex Hamilton Lacrosse
Garrity-Rokous Gavin Middlesex Georgetown Lacrosse

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Not playing in college or not in college as far as I can tell

Talcott Andrew Roxbury Latin URichmond URichmond does not have a mens soccer program
Reiss Alec Groton
Kaba Soree St. Sebastian's
Gordon Cam Belmont Hill
Quintin Luke Milton
Pike Darren St. Mark's
Harrison Ross BB&N no

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Not the OP but I was curious so I checked his/her work. I found some mistakes mainly

JOB is playing much
DM is playing much

************************************************** ****************
So here are the results (drums please?)

Out of the 32 all-ISLs in 2016

7 (22%) went D1 and 3 out of the 7 (43%) are playing much - not bad!!

15 (47%) went D3 and 8 out of the 15 (53%) are playing much - not bad too!!

3 chose other sports

7 are either not in college or not playing a college sport (as far as I can tell)

...so there you go and You're Welcome.

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If you want to see the raw data it is shown below:

D1
Munch Daniel BB&N Northastern yes started in 12/17 games played
Lage Marcelo Brooks GW yes
Stevens Andrew Brooks Columbia yes
Bryant Ben Roxbury Latin Harvard no 0/4
Ranieri Matt Nobles Dartmouth no 3/16 in 2016 5/15 in 2018
Roberts Jack Nobles Princeton no played 2 games started in 1
Leigh Matt St. Mark's Penn no did not start, got minutes in 15 games
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D3
Martini Augie Lawrence Academy Hobart yes
Kaba Adama St. Sebastian's Northeastern yes
Barsamian Raffi St. Sebastian's Middlebury yes
Kingston Chris Belmont Hill Bowdoin yes
Ranieri Nick Nobles Williams yes
McPherron Max Nobles Bowdoin yes
O'Brien Jack Milton Amherst yes
Sheehan Jack Milton Hamilton yes

Mukala Isaac Lawrence Academy Brandeis no - started in 2 / 12 games played
Sloan Liam Middlesex Middlebury no played 1 game / did not start
Hawkins Paul Rivers Colby no 1/5
Steele Dylan Brooks Amherst no 2017 1/6 2018 0/5
Chaban Alex Brooks Bowdoin no 4/16
Garner Christian Brooks BC no 0/1
Schmitz Cole St. Mark's Wash U (D3) no 2018 started 1/8 games played 2017 did not start. played in 4 games

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Different Sport
Cronin Robbie Belmont Hill Baseball
Sanderson James Middlesex Hamilton Lacrosse
Garrity-Rokous Gavin Middlesex Georgetown Lacrosse

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Not playing in college or not in college as far as I can tell

Talcott Andrew Roxbury Latin URichmond URichmond does not have a mens soccer program
Reiss Alec Groton
Kaba Soree St. Sebastian's
Gordon Cam Belmont Hill
Quintin Luke Milton
Pike Darren St. Mark's
Harrison Ross BB&N no

No, the "Final Analysis" is that you're angry your kid wasn't chosen ALL-ISL.

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No, the "Final Analysis" is that you're angry your kid wasn't chosen ALL-ISL.

I am just impressed that he has the time to track this. That’s a lot of work.

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I am just impressed that he has the time to track this. That’s a lot of work.

It's a psyco Stepford wife.

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Out of the 32 all-ISLs in 2016

7 (22%) went D1 and 3 out of the 7 (43%) are playing much - not bad!!

15 (47%) went D3 and 8 out of the 15 (53%) are playing much - not bad too!!

3 chose other sports

7 are either not in college or not playing a college sport (as far as I can tell)

Thanks. Good Analysis but pretty much what I expected to see from a prep school soccer league. I expect that the stats are certainly better than those from the top 16 public High Schools in MA. With regard to DAP, tough to compare because most of those kids have a different mindset and academics is not as important a factor as landing a top D1 soccer school (IMO).

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With regard to DAP, tough to compare because most of those kids have a different mindset and academics is not as important a factor as landing a top D1 soccer school (IMO).

Agreed. Most public school kids can't get into a UVA or Stanford.