For those of you who have been through the recruiting process, can you give me an idea of what types of players receive full rides aside from YNT players? Also, what is the average package?
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This is probably your best bet (read below the top table for soccer specific #s). Fully funded women's programs have 14 scholarships to divide up; men 9.9. Not all programs are funded. For women 40-50% is fairly common; men it's more like 25%. Full rides are very rare especially for men, but top women can get 75%. If a woman gets 25% or under he's probably not that interested, and plenty of men get nothing at all
http://scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html
Keep in mind that with the exception of a few conferences athletic awards are year to year agreements and can be revoked. Academic money - which often times can be more than athletic money - is generally good for all four years as long as you maintain a manageable GPA.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis is probably your best bet (read below the top table for soccer specific #s). Fully funded women's programs have 14 scholarships to divide up; men 9.9. Not all programs are funded. For women 40-50% is fairly common; men it's more like 25%. Full rides are very rare especially for men, but top women can get 75%. If a woman gets 25% or under he's probably not that interested, and plenty of men get nothing at all
http://scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html
Keep in mind that with the exception of a few conferences athletic awards are year to year agreements and can be revoked. Academic money - which often times can be more than athletic money - is generally good for all four years as long as you maintain a manageable GPA.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostVery instructive. Thank you!
So look at the second table. Hard to know how instructive that table is without knowing more details (how many schools responded, and who those schools are).
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostJust make sure you read footnote 2 to the first table- that is for all varsity sports so the table is pretty much worthless.
So look at the second table. Hard to know how instructive that table is without knowing more details (how many schools responded, and who those schools are).
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postfrom the website
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1. First table (and the detailed list at the bottom listing every school) includes numbers for all sports, so the "average" numbers are almost meaningless. An assumption that the "average" would be consistent across all sports would be faulty (since you know basketball and football, etc. are giving out full rides).
2. In the 2nd table, they've told us who the source is - responding D1 schools (not the stuff listed above). But you don't know if 5 or 500 schools responded, or what bias might be present in those who responded (more likely to respond if you have lots of scholarships money? or more likely to respond if you're a crummy program with nothing better to do?).
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOK, but...
1. First table (and the detailed list at the bottom listing every school) includes numbers for all sports, so the "average" numbers are almost meaningless. An assumption that the "average" would be consistent across all sports would be faulty (since you know basketball and football, etc. are giving out full rides).
2. In the 2nd table, they've told us who the source is - responding D1 schools (not the stuff listed above). But you don't know if 5 or 500 schools responded, or what bias might be present in those who responded (more likely to respond if you have lots of scholarships money? or more likely to respond if you're a crummy program with nothing better to do?).
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There is a lot of good information but there is much more in between the lines.
Hockey is not so simple since many of the players are doing PG years so the competition for a regular HS senior is quite intense. This is in addition to the fact that Division 1 coaches do not limit themselves to the US. Although the international reach is not as extensive as soccer, between the PGYs and Canada, the competition for varying levels of athletic scholarship is high.
Soccer does not seem as many PGYs (although the humber is slightly up) D1 coaches are traveling far and wide abroad to bolster the roster. Compared to hockey the total dollar is not as high. Few programs hand out more than 10 scholarships and less than 20% will be full ones.
Lacrosse has a large number of kids doing PGYs or graduating with the birth year 1 or 2 years younger. Internationally, only Canada is competing, but that number has also risen. Again, total dollar is less than hockey, basketball, baseball, and football.
Other sports vary significantly with regard to numbers but are have much smaller rosters (tennis, Gymnastics, Swimming). Track and field is an interesting entity but there are many many internationals in the american college ranks.
All in all, non athletic scholarships are better and more likely options.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis is probably your best bet (read below the top table for soccer specific #s). Fully funded women's programs have 14 scholarships to divide up; men 9.9. Not all programs are funded. For women 40-50% is fairly common; men it's more like 25%. Full rides are very rare especially for men, but top women can get 75%. If a woman gets 25% or under he's probably not that interested, and plenty of men get nothing at all
http://scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html
Keep in mind that with the exception of a few conferences athletic awards are year to year agreements and can be revoked. Academic money - which often times can be more than athletic money - is generally good for all four years as long as you maintain a manageable GPA.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy do you insist on posting this silliness. I have checked my daughter's program and it is nowhere near correct. The information is grossly inaccurate because it simply averages numbers. Are you really that desperate to convince newbies that there isn't any scholarship money out there? There is and in much higher percentages than you are willing to acknowledge.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy do you insist on posting this silliness. I have checked my daughter's program and it is nowhere near correct. The information is grossly inaccurate because it simply averages numbers. Are you really that desperate to convince newbies that there isn't any scholarship money out there? There is and in much higher percentages than you are willing to acknowledge.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhat I read is the opposite - there is money out there but full rides are rare. But thanks of interjecting with your rarest of experiences.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostReally depends upon the gender. Women's soccer has higher scholarship limits and generally the programs are better funded because of Title 9. Generally the average scholarship is about 50% but that means that for as many players who get little to no money there are as many that get close to the full ride. With men's soccer it is a totally different story because the funding is dramatically less and the limits are less. It makes it tough to find much money at all.
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