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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Maybe that amount of playing time is appropriate for the kid, their ability and their commitment level. As a coach you can only encourage so much. Eventually you get to a point with some kids where everyone should probably realize that soccer isn't the kid's thing. Not the worst thing in the world to move on to other interests, especially with the costs involved in club soccer these days.
    I hope you aren't a coach. If you are a coach perhaps you to the point you should realize coaching isn't your thing. The kid is on the top team, my guess is that she is still a decent player and only 11, lots of time to develop.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Wrong. We're talking about U11. It's possible the player was poorly trained up until now and needs more time with a good coach. Player could be small...so many things. Giving up on 10-11 year olds is absurd. Sure maybe a move is necessary to a different level but to suggest moving them into a different sport altogether and giving up soccer? What an azz.
      And you are just the coach to do the job? Who should they make the check out to? Your views come across as more your ego speaking than any concern about what is good for a kid. Sometimes kids don't feel the adults passion for a game and that is OK. Soccer isn't for everyone. Only a real nut would encourage somebody to have their kid continue doing something when it's obvious their heart just isn't in to it.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        And you are just the coach to do the job? Who should they make the check out to? Your views come across as more your ego speaking than any concern about what is good for a kid. Sometimes kids don't feel the adults passion for a game and that is OK. Soccer isn't for everyone. Only a real nut would encourage somebody to have their kid continue doing something when it's obvious their heart just isn't in to it.
        Here we go again with your elitist bullsh** where only the truly elite should play the game the rest should hang it up. I don't care what level kids play at as long as its the right level for them (not you), they are learning, having fun and developing a love of the game. It isn't your job to tell people what to do and certainly not to determine who should and shouldn't play.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          My U11 plays on the top team at one of the "big two" clubs. Plays in the NEP top division and does quite a few tournaments per year. Really likes her teammates and coaches, but is in the bottom third of the roster, which means she is only playing 15 minutes or so per game and only plays one position.

          Thinking of bumping her down a level for next year where she'll be one of the strongest kids, get more minutes and get to play different positions. The club's second team also plays in the premiership, so it's not like she'd be going to play in league 2.

          Doesn't want to leave her friends, but is getting frustrated not playing too much.

          Anyone faced a similar choice? Any non-sarcastic input is appreciated.
          Was facing similar issues last year. Our solution was to seek out private small group training an extra 2 days per week. If your player is really committed she should be doing as much work away from team practices as possible.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            For the sake of conversation, in a 60 minute game with 8 field players (9 v. 9) that's 480 minutes of playing time. If you have, say 11 field players, that's an average playing time of 43 minutes per kid.
            And, some get 55-60, and some get 30-35.

            Sounds about right. Yes, some barely leave the field. But, you should at least be getting half minutes.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              And you are just the coach to do the job? Who should they make the check out to? Your views come across as more your ego speaking than any concern about what is good for a kid. Sometimes kids don't feel the adults passion for a game and that is OK. Soccer isn't for everyone. Only a real nut would encourage somebody to have their kid continue doing something when it's obvious their heart just isn't in to it.
              Wow. BTNT, you really are a jerk.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Wow. BTNT, you really are a jerk.
                Said the biggest A=hole this site has ever seen

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Was facing similar issues last year. Our solution was to seek out private small group training an extra 2 days per week. If your player is really committed she should be doing as much work away from team practices as possible.
                  Committed to what? Where do you think that extra training is going to take your child? So what is that extra training costing you? An extra $75-100 a week? For how may weeks? Better be for at least 15-20 weeks or you won't see any impact. That spending is on top of your club fee, what you are spending for equipment and uniforms, and then what you are spending for travel. You are probably up to around $5,000 already. At U11, you are just starting with club soccer. You can easily double that by the time high school rolls around so you are on pace to spend $50,000-60,000 on club soccer. Again, where do you think soccer is leading your child?

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Committed to what? Where do you think that extra training is going to take your child? So what is that extra training costing you? An extra $75-100 a week? For how may weeks? Better be for at least 15-20 weeks or you won't see any impact. That spending is on top of your club fee, what you are spending for equipment and uniforms, and then what you are spending for travel. You are probably up to around $5,000 already. At U11, you are just starting with club soccer. You can easily double that by the time high school rolls around so you are on pace to spend $50,000-60,000 on club soccer. Again, where do you think soccer is leading your child?
                    Stop. Just stop. Seek professional help.

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                      #25
                      Pretty much anytime someone writes "the kid has no talent/you are spending too much/your kid has no future" it is him. There isn't just one person calling him out. I think his continual negativity is destructive.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Pretty much anytime someone writes "the kid has no talent/you are spending too much/your kid has no future" it is him. There isn't just one person calling him out. I think his continual negativity is destructive.
                        Agreed. So let's ignore him and don't feed into his garbage. Don't post and let the thread die off

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                          #27
                          Find a new club. One that actually cares about developing all of their players.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Committed to what? Where do you think that extra training is going to take your child? So what is that extra training costing you? An extra $75-100 a week? For how may weeks? Better be for at least 15-20 weeks or you won't see any impact. That spending is on top of your club fee, what you are spending for equipment and uniforms, and then what you are spending for travel. You are probably up to around $5,000 already. At U11, you are just starting with club soccer. You can easily double that by the time high school rolls around so you are on pace to spend $50,000-60,000 on club soccer. Again, where do you think soccer is leading your child?
                            Bingo! We have a winner. If your kid isn't in the top 1/3 of the team you are just supporting those kids. This post sums up club soccer really well. The posters who condemn these type of posts clearly make a living off exploiting kids and parents pipe dreams. Wise up and take enroll your kids in Russian math or a public speaking course, it will serve them much better than club soccer.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              OP here. She is a very commited player. No issues there. Always at practice and always giving 100%. Coach has recognized her for her work ethic on several occasions. Issue is that she is small for her age and the coach leans on the bigger, stronger, faster kids. She'll grow. Mom is 5'7" and I'm over 6'0", just hasn't happened yet.

                              If it was an effort issue it would be on her, but it's not that at all, which makes it all the more frustrating.
                              Is your wife the team manager? That would help.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Bingo! We have a winner. If your kid isn't in the top 1/3 of the team you are just supporting those kids. This post sums up club soccer really well. The posters who condemn these type of posts clearly make a living off exploiting kids and parents pipe dreams. Wise up and take enroll your kids in Russian math or a public speaking course, it will serve them much better than club soccer.
                                No it's about finding the right level for the player in question, not quitting soccer altogether. Enough with the "only the elite should play"

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