Originally posted by Unregistered
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Timbers/OYSA Contract
Collapse
X
-
Unregistered
- Quote
-
Unregistered
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostKeep dreaming. The DA continues to struggle pulling top talent because people see the program for what it is. Average coaches who think wearing green jackets makes them pros.
We have so little top (player) talent in the metro area and have way too many 'clubs' gripping to keep the average kid paying/playing at their club so the staff coaches and DOC's can keep their inflated salaries, monies they would never see in the real labor force. If any of these youth club coaches, could coach, they would have jobs in that field at a college or the pros. They don't and never will. Plus they can make more money locally at the rec clubs and don't have to worry about any on the field results with their club teams. It's better than being tenured. It's requires about as much skill as scratching off an Oregon Lottery card. The Timbers organization is littered with the same youth coaches as the clubs, these fools make far less than the club coaches, but get the best players to work with top talent in area. Kids that would never come to them if the Timbers/Thorns weren't paying the players way. Nice choices.
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
Ecnl has nothing to do with the horrible contract madding signed. Was anyone who was at the oysa- timbers meeting comment on it?
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostEcnl has nothing to do with the horrible contract madding signed. Was anyone who was at the oysa- timbers meeting comment on it?
OYSA is a USYS member not US Club.
CU aka THUSC/LOSC & FC Portland like many clubs have members dual registered in US Club and USYS (OYSA).
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo matter, it's paid for so it's attractive to families. Economics will always win the day.
We have so little top (player) talent in the metro area and have way too many 'clubs' gripping to keep the average kid paying/playing at their club so the staff coaches and DOC's can keep their inflated salaries, monies they would never see in the real labor force. If any of these youth club coaches, could coach, they would have jobs in that field at a college or the pros. They don't and never will. Plus they can make more money locally at the rec clubs and don't have to worry about any on the field results with their club teams. It's better than being tenured. It's requires about as much skill as scratching off an Oregon Lottery card. The Timbers organization is littered with the same youth coaches as the clubs, these fools make far less than the club coaches, but get the best players to work with top talent in area. Kids that would never come to them if the Timbers/Thorns weren't paying the players way. Nice choices.
For truly needy families, $2000/year is out of reach. Honestly, a $125 tryout fee is out of reach and demonstrates that thorns GDA cares nothing about helping the neediest kids have a high quality experience. Those kids are priced out by your tryout fee! So get off your high horse.
For non-needy families, they aren't interested in cheap for their daughters. Most of us realize these years are fleeting and if our daughter is happy, we will gladly pay for that experience. My daughter plays for a TA team that, with our traveling, costs me $6-7k/year. She is happy, getting to play at quality events, has great coaches and teammates, and is enjoying her soccer and high school experience. You actually expect me to change any of that to save a few bucks? Sorry, but with my kid (who was heavily recruited for GDA at ODP last year), economics don't "win the day."
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou lost this argument with your second sentence "economics will always win the day."
For truly needy families, $2000/year is out of reach. Honestly, a $125 tryout fee is out of reach and demonstrates that thorns GDA cares nothing about helping the neediest kids have a high quality experience. Those kids are priced out by your tryout fee! So get off your high horse.
For non-needy families, they aren't interested in cheap for their daughters. Most of us realize these years are fleeting and if our daughter is happy, we will gladly pay for that experience. My daughter plays for a TA team that, with our traveling, costs me $6-7k/year. She is happy, getting to play at quality events, has great coaches and teammates, and is enjoying her soccer and high school experience. You actually expect me to change any of that to save a few bucks? Sorry, but with my kid (who was heavily recruited for GDA at ODP last year), economics don't "win the day."
1 kid out of 70,000 OYSA members does not win any argument it only highlights the insignificance of your theory. Well done.
It's not an argument, the Timbers MLS DA has no competitor from the local club market after 5 years of attracting the best Oregon has to offer from all the local clubs.
The Thorns NWSL DA will evolve into the same tier as the MLS Timbers DA within a year or two. You can't stop it unless you can remove the Timbers/Thorns and US Soccer. Which you can't.
It's subsidized and sponsored by US Soccer. No club in our area has that distinction.
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou lost this argument with your second sentence "economics will always win the day."
For truly needy families, $2000/year is out of reach. Honestly, a $125 tryout fee is out of reach and demonstrates that thorns GDA cares nothing about helping the neediest kids have a high quality experience. Those kids are priced out by your tryout fee! So get off your high horse.
For non-needy families, they aren't interested in cheap for their daughters. Most of us realize these years are fleeting and if our daughter is happy, we will gladly pay for that experience. My daughter plays for a TA team that, with our traveling, costs me $6-7k/year. She is happy, getting to play at quality events, has great coaches and teammates, and is enjoying her soccer and high school experience. You actually expect me to change any of that to save a few bucks? Sorry, but with my kid (who was heavily recruited for GDA at ODP last year), economics don't "win the day."
ECNL is $8,000 to $10,000 oer year and that is a hell of a lot more than the $2000 the GDA costs. If you don't think that is a big difference for most families you need to get outside your little country club bubble.
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou forgot to mention subsidized by oysa. Public non-profit entities subsidizing for-profit endeavors - god bless America!
THIS nearly broke non profit has cash reserves to pay for the Timbers/Thorns DA?
Who knew.
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostO.y.s.a has barely enough disposable cash to sponsor a white cargo van named Vinny.
THIS nearly broke non profit has cash reserves to pay for the Timbers/Thorns DA?
Who knew.
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou have highlighted exactly what the GDA is attempting to change. Most of the "top players" are from higher income families. The economics don't matter to you but they give your children a significant advantage because youth soccer is so damn expensive. I don't think many of the people leading this change at US Soccer were thinking of families like yours when they decided to institute these changes thru the GDA.
ECNL is $8,000 to $10,000 oer year and that is a hell of a lot more than the $2000 the GDA costs. If you don't think that is a big difference for most families you need to get outside your little country club bubble.
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
-
Unregistered
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNo country club here, sorry to disappoint you. And as I said earlier my kid plays for a TA team, not ECNL. Guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. But keep defending a program with a $125 tryout fee that is somehow magically accessible to needy kids. Our TA club charges no tryout fee and awards nearly $100k in scholarships so needy kids can play. Granted they don't get to wear a thorns patch. But save your high horse for someone more gullible. Your GDA is no better at making soccer accessible to needy kids than ECNL is. When you're poor, it doesn't matter whether it's a $125 tryout fee, a $2,000 annual fee, or an $8,000 annual fee. It's all out of reach.
1) Selected to play for the NWSL Portland Thorns USDA or
2) play at a local neighborhood club.
That's it.
BTW, US Soccer has scholarships for the truly needy in the DA program both boys and girls.
You are hopeless.
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNobody can 'take' anything from OYSA that was never paid to OYSA. Take that to the bank.
- Quote
Comment
-
Unregistered
Sounds like OYSA problem..no linkage to the Timbers/Thorns USDA.
Why are you so desperate and grasping at straws.
- Quote
Comment
Comment