Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

The team or just another team?

Collapse
X
  •  
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    You don't do ODP to be on a state team, you do it to be put in the regional pool which then puts a player at the top of most college coaches list's and hopefully get them some recognition by the national team. The training at the regional pool level is significantly better than what players find at their own team training sessions and the international trips are usually most top tier player's first experience with international play.

    Comment


      Originally posted by Unregistered
      You don't do ODP to be on a state team, you do it to be put in the regional pool which then puts a player at the top of most college coaches list's and hopefully get them some recognition by the national team. The training at the regional pool level is significantly better than what players find at their own team training sessions and the international trips are usually most top tier player's first experience with international play.
      Why don't you ask how the quality compares when MKM gets back from the camp. Prepare for the words "no comparison" to be uttered. But keep paying for those valuable trips.

      Comment


        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        In general ODP is a shadow of itself. However, this 2000 R1 team is unusual in its ability to keep some of the top players in the region together. Yes the core is the NEFC spine. They played in the MIC tournament -one of the most prestigious in the world, not just a friendly vacation trip. Several of these kids were ID'd by ECNL for PDP event or have been to YNT camps.
        It's interesting where the different paths took clubs like the Stars and NEFC. The Stars fought hard against their players participating in ODP and promoted the heck out the ECNL and ID2 as the best solution for advancing a younger player's career. Their coaches would bad mouth ODP incessantly and the club would schedule team practices intentionally in direct conflict with it in order to prevent players from doing both. NEFC took the direct opposite approach with ODP and embraced it. Given that since the inception of the ECNL and supposed decline of ODP that NEFC rose from little more than a small MAPLE club to become one of the major youth soccer forces in the Northeast and specifically targeted by USSF for their DA program it is pretty obvious which club's path proved more beneficial or their bottom line. The advice NEFC has been giving to its players certainly seems beneficial to their careers? You are seeing more of their players get called into NT camps and gather a lot of accolades like All American honors. It also seems like the quality of the college programs they are sending their players to has risen sharply. Is this all smoke and mirrors or do their player development, player promotion, and college recruitment philosophies just plain old work? Can any of the other local clubs make an equal claim of success for their players? The bottom line question then is did skipping ODP and putting everything into the ECNL actually create any sort of advantage for the players, or was that just self serving advice intended to really just help promote the club's brand and feather its bottom line?

        Comment


          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          It's interesting where the different paths took clubs like the Stars and NEFC. The Stars fought hard against their players participating in ODP and promoted the heck out the ECNL and ID2 as the best solution for advancing a younger player's career. Their coaches would bad mouth ODP incessantly and the club would schedule team practices intentionally in direct conflict with it in order to prevent players from doing both. NEFC took the direct opposite approach with ODP and embraced it. Given that since the inception of the ECNL and supposed decline of ODP that NEFC rose from little more than a small MAPLE club to become one of the major youth soccer forces in the Northeast and specifically targeted by USSF for their DA program it is pretty obvious which club's path proved more beneficial or their bottom line. The advice NEFC has been giving to its players certainly seems beneficial to their careers? You are seeing more of their players get called into NT camps and gather a lot of accolades like All American honors. It also seems like the quality of the college programs they are sending their players to has risen sharply. Is this all smoke and mirrors or do their player development, player promotion, and college recruitment philosophies just plain old work? Can any of the other local clubs make an equal claim of success for their players? The bottom line question then is did skipping ODP and putting everything into the ECNL actually create any sort of advantage for the players, or was that just self serving advice intended to really just help promote the club's brand and feather its bottom line?
          Great analysis, BTNT. Fair and balanced. When NEFC was, as you say, merely a small MAPLE club, were they really gonna tell their kids not to do ODP? The rise of NEFC and ODP have virtually no correlation. We're supposed to credit the kids and their hard work rather than the clubs, right? Or are you now doing one of your infamous deceitful and duplicitous U-turns?

          Comment


            The intellectual laziness and rank lack of logic regularly employed by our conflator-in-chief are stunning, although the sheer volume of his antics functions like a sedative for a gullible audience.

            Comment


              All you have to do is look at all the players on the NT, and you will see they gave up ODP ages ago. The NEFC/Breakers girls are an exception, or one of the girls is an exception, and the involvement of so many NEFC/Breakers players in ODP is a function of the fact that the club encouraged it. But if all the NT girls aren't playing, it is hard to see how ODP is so valuable. And, particularly for the international trips, it costs real money. In the old days, Region 1 was all it took to play D1 soccer. Now, things are different. One thing is for sure that no Breakers DA players will be playing ODP next year.

              Comment


                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The intellectual laziness and rank lack of logic regularly employed by our conflator-in-chief are stunning, although the sheer volume of his antics functions like a sedative for a gullible audience.
                Stunning? Give it a rest. No one cares. Its just a soccer board that people read for entertainment.

                Comment


                  So many stars soccer bags on ODP this year. What gives?
                  Yes there is ecnl kids too so don't start with the third team only crap.

                  Comment


                    Originally posted by Unregistered
                    So many stars soccer bags on ODP this year. What gives?
                    Yes there is ecnl kids too so don't start with the third team only crap.
                    Maybe at the younger ages. I have only seen one or maybe two in the older groups.

                    Comment


                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Stunning? Give it a rest. No one cares. Its just a soccer board that people read for entertainment.
                      LOL. But "college recruitment philosophies" gets a pass.

                      Comment


                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        All you have to do is look at all the players on the NT, and you will see they gave up ODP ages ago. The NEFC/Breakers girls are an exception, or one of the girls is an exception, and the involvement of so many NEFC/Breakers players in ODP is a function of the fact that the club encouraged it. But if all the NT girls aren't playing, it is hard to see how ODP is so valuable. And, particularly for the international trips, it costs real money. In the old days, Region 1 was all it took to play D1 soccer. Now, things are different. One thing is for sure that no Breakers DA players will be playing ODP next year.
                        It's not worth trying to be rational here. Give it up.

                        Comment


                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          All you have to do is look at all the players on the NT, and you will see they gave up ODP ages ago. The NEFC/Breakers girls are an exception, or one of the girls is an exception, and the involvement of so many NEFC/Breakers players in ODP is a function of the fact that the club encouraged it. But if all the NT girls aren't playing, it is hard to see how ODP is so valuable. And, particularly for the international trips, it costs real money. In the old days, Region 1 was all it took to play D1 soccer. Now, things are different. One thing is for sure that no Breakers DA players will be playing ODP next year.
                          What a stupid post. The NT level players stop doing ODP because they get pulled up to the NT level. If you go back and look at most of their resume's the majority started in ODP.

                          Comment


                            Originally posted by Unregistered
                            What a stupid post. The NT level players stop doing ODP because they get pulled up to the NT level. If you go back and look at most of their resume's the majority started in ODP.
                            At 10. They were done by 12.

                            Comment

                            Previously entered content was automatically saved. Restore or Discard.
                            Auto-Saved
                            x
                            Insert: Thumbnail Small Medium Large Fullsize Remove  
                            x
                            Working...
                            X