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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHardly - prior members wanted CT soccer to stay competitive. But CJSA did little to stem the club departures to regional leagues, then backfilled with lower quality teams, prompting more clubs to leave. In comes CCSL offering better instate competition and again CJSA did nothing. Game over now. They're a travel org now, which is fine as long as they don't screw that up too
How should they have filled their leagues?
What should CJSA have done to stop the creation and expansion of the CCSL?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostUtter tripe.
Prior members wanted money and the parents obliged. CJSA was taken for a ride by its members.
Town rec coaches formed their own popup premier clubs, for which parents happily paid. They collected travel and rec kids from numerous town programs to pad their pockets. This watered down the CJSA premier leagues, which is one of the reasons the big 3 left. Then with the big 3 gone, the popup premier clubs felt they were playing in watered down leagues, which they had actually created for themselves, so they went to U.S. Club, which let them charge more money but actually still kept them in watered down leagues -- same coaches, kids, and clubs, nothing changed except the money grab is going further into the ranks of rec. players now.
Shame.
And how should this have been prevented?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhat should they have done that would have stopped club departures to regional leagues?
How should they have filled their leagues?
What should CJSA have done to stop the creation and expansion of the CCSL?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostKept club quality up instead of filling in with popups and town premier. Once they started that slippery slope it quickly went downhill. Clubs also got tired of CJSA runarounds, no one answering questions. It wasn't just about the competition but also league operations. Poor product, poor management.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostKept club quality up instead of filling in with popups and town premier. Once they started that slippery slope it quickly went downhill. Clubs also got tired of CJSA runarounds, no one answering questions. It wasn't just about the competition but also league operations. Poor product, poor management.
You tend to offer only a wide brush on things here and cannot speak very specifically to causal factors, tangible and effective response to their challenges in an evolving soccer world.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe CJSA has had rules that you need four teams to join the CJSA as a club. With Rec. coaches moving away from town programs and starting popup premier clubs, the CJSA had really no good or legal way to stop the watering down. From there, it just got worse. Now the watered down teams are moving to CCSL because, I guess it's not sufficient for only the CJSA to be watered down, US Club has to be, as well.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAnd again, if you think this wrong, how would you respond to it within CCSL? Where should these teams and clubs play?
My solution? To make fun of all the people stuck in what has been created over the past 15 or so years. My youngest kid moves on to college this year, so my only reason for posting on TS after this spring is entertainment. I could share things learned, but one of those things I learned is that U12 parents know it all so don't bother sharing. I was lucky, though, my kid did alright by soccer, and soccer by her. Not all families do so well.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostKept club quality up instead of filling in with popups and town premier. Once they started that slippery slope it quickly went downhill. Clubs also got tired of CJSA runarounds, no one answering questions. It wasn't just about the competition but also league operations. Poor product, poor management.
Any "new" premier club has to start out in A division travel. Only once their team or teams come in first place do they get to move up to premier . And if a premier team comes in last place in the lowest division of premier, they are relegated to travel.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTown premier teams were beating Premier clubs , so that indicates those clubs were not doing what they needed to do to " keep up the quality" of their own clubs. What CJSA needed to do was have true promotion and relegation regardless of who or where your team plays.
Any "new" premier club has to start out in A division travel. Only once their team or teams come in first place do they get to move up to premier . And if a premier team comes in last place in the lowest division of premier, they are relegated to travel.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAnd again, if you think this wrong, how would you respond to it within CCSL? Where should these teams and clubs play?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostTown premier teams were beating Premier clubs , so that indicates those clubs were not doing what they needed to do to " keep up the quality" of their own clubs. What CJSA needed to do was have true promotion and relegation regardless of who or where your team plays.
Any "new" premier club has to start out in A division travel. Only once their team or teams come in first place do they get to move up to premier . And if a premier team comes in last place in the lowest division of premier, they are relegated to travel.
Anyway, conflating travel and premier leagues ignores the reality of how and why these two things are different.
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