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    When they first appeared on the American youth soccer scene, the paid coaches were charged with creating competitive clubs and coaching teams for the ambitious, talented young players.

    It's a hard thing to talk about pros and cons of the paid coach because the issue for me isn't that they shouldn't be paid, it's who's paying them. Once parents are paying them, that is when things get a little out of whack.

    If they were able to get paid by an independent source, then I think there's not so much a salesman aspect to it and a lot of the problems go away from the standpoint of number of games, number of events and what you're doing developmentally in your training sessions and how you are approaching the games.

    There are probably few easier ways to make money than by convincing parents they're investing in their kids' future. And the professional coaches, including the coaching companies that clubs hire to run their practices and tryouts, have been taking full advantage. They're making a killing by convincing parents that professional trainers are necessary even for tykes. Any child old enough to walk is a potential customer.

    America took free play and transformed it into a business, an industry. Self-proclaimed experts sell false hopes and dreams and expectations to kids and their parents and the end result is burnout.

    Indeed, when paid coaches encourage children as young as 7 to try out for their "elite" soccer teams, isn't it time to sound the alarm bells? It's certainly time to ask questions, like:

    * Are they courting children at such young ages because it's good for the children or because it increases their incomes?

    * Is the movement to send kids into competitive clubs at such a young age destroying the recreational leagues?

    * Is it really a good idea to break up teams so early in a child's soccer experience?

    * What message do tryouts send to the players who don't make the cut? Do they get discouraged and lose interest in the game? Are we chasing the late-bloomers away?

    * And who do the coaches pick? The physically advanced kids? The "coachable" kids?

    A volunteer coach gets a group of players and is charged with providing them all a good soccer experience. A paid coach hand-picks his team. Especially if these paid coaches come from one of the firms that are hired on a season-by-season basis, won't they be inclined to pick players who will make the team look good in the short term? Will they neglect the smaller kids or the free-spirited individualists who don't enjoy the regimented training sessions but could end up the best of them all?

    And are these training sessions designed for the good of the players or to impress the parents?
    The most common reason I hear from parents who send their children to paid coaches goes something like this, "Our coach is real nice but she's not really teaching them any skills."

    That always reminds me of another thing: I don't believe skill was, or ever will be, the result of coaches. It is a result of a love affair between the child and the ball.

    So what would happen if parents are paying a coach $100 per month and the coach implements the free-play kind of training that U.S. Soccer's coaching education and national team staff recommends?

    I think they'll wonder why they're paying so much money for a coach who simply lets the kids play soccer and hardly gives instructions.

    So the paid coaches bark at the players to prove to the parents that they're "teaching" and concoct training sessions that look more like dance rehearsals than soccer games.

    And the children are denied the free play that, breeds imagination, enjoyment, passion and fun, and leads to the discovery of talent.

    In conclusion, Soccer – which is a poor man’s sport throughout most of the world – has evolved into the sport of the upper-middle class in the U.S. Parents are paying $1,000 to $5,000 per season (PLUS additional fees for tournaments and personal training) to play “competitive” soccer where they train just 3 hours per week, because field space is limited. Rosters have too many kids on them and the kids AREN’T learning the game. Coaches, mandated by US Youth Soccer to have licenses are coaching multiple teams, so they never really understand their players’ needs or weaknesses. Meanwhile, the fees just keep increasing.

    Youth soccer has become a money making scam on the middle class.

    All you need is a ball to play – no equipment or special circumstances – so to control the market, public parks have been taken over by soccer clubs who “manage” the fields and lock them up when club management isn’t around.

    #2
    Yes soccer just like travel baseball and now it is creeping into football. Constant cost increase. Look at Disney showcase now cost now cost $1450 just to enter. $35 to watch you player play.

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      #3
      Thank you a million. Very refreshing article, well thought out.
      If it is not posted, it should be on may be FYSA or any National papers.

      What can we do to just spread the love of soccer, make it free/affordable and accessible for every aspiring kid and families?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Thank you a million. Very refreshing article, well thought out.
        If it is not posted, it should be on may be FYSA or any National papers.

        What can we do to just spread the love of soccer, make it free/affordable and accessible for every aspiring kid and families?
        The rest of the world is ahead of us in soccer because they make kids compete. At an early age they compete because they are encouraged to compete and hey son if you don't make the top team, then keep playing because they love the game! We love success here in the states and so if we perceive our kid isn't on the top team then we fix it. We will be behind until we just love soccer and promote our top players because we want the best teams not just necessarily for our child alone.

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          #5
          I have a couple of kids, and I've been in charge of a Club that ran rec/travel baseball, football, soccer and even hockey. At one point, we had over 4,000 kids playing at our parks on one day. I'm not talking about tournament days.

          In football, the ages typically run through 14, then we hand over the kids to the high school coaches. That show Friday Night Tykes is not far off the chart. The football coaches are the most egotisical of the bunch, but they do it for the love of the game. 100%. No salary, just re-imbursement for travel expenses. Over the years, we saw a bunch of D1 and D2 players, as well as a couple of players that got signed to the NFL. The ones who really get paid are private quarterback coaches and some strength and conditioning specialists that work with players.

          Baseball/Fast Pitch Softball coaches are the most relax of the bunch, although you have exceptions. Most of the communication is via hand signals on the field, so you really never heard them yelling alot. Most of the travel coaches don't get paid, until you get to the serious showcase teams (ages 16 and up). These are teams that travel regionally and nationally. At the equivilent of SC teams, the people who really get paid are your pitching coaches, catching coaches and batting coaches. I'm not sure about fielding. Normally, the managers would handle this job. Batting coaches made $100-150/hr, if they were decent with examples of kids that advanced. Some, even more. Same with pitching coaches. The catching coaches are paid less.

          Hockey, I stayed away, so I really can't attest to that sport.

          In soccer, we pay the coaches, and do private training on the side. What gets me is that some coaches tell their players not to do private training with someone else, because their afraid it will impact the way that they are taught on the field. I understand that coaches fear that players tactical work will suffer, but what has that got to do with technical training. Last time I checked, muscle memory is critical to making quicker decisions, and it has no impact to tactial decisions. Are they just trying to get private training money too? Personally, I think that money has ruined the youth sport. I saw soccer go from no pay, to a small stipend to cover gas, mileage and lodging costs, to pulling down alot more than just gas money. I guess when the DOC presented it at first (nearly 15 years ago), we were fine, because it was to help the coaches cover costs. Now, it's beginning to get out of control.

          The problem now is that the baseball (not girls fast pitch softball, as it's in the same boat as girls soccer) and football coaches send more players to the pros, than soccer. But, they see the soccer coaches making alot more than just gas money. It's become a problem that we've supressed for years, but it's coming to a head. The soccer parents will pay the $1,000-3,000 fees, whereas the other two sports, the parents are only willing to pay for specific technical training. I really don't have an answer other than let the next generation of our sports board handle it. I've just gotten disgusted with the money in kids sports, and I've decided to not run again. Good luck, and I hope you all find the solution.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

            I understand that coaches fear that players tactical work will suffer, but what has that got to do with technical training. Last time I checked, muscle memory is critical to making quicker decisions, and it has no impact to tactial decisions. Are they just trying to get private training money too?
            Your child will benefit more from learning and training from a number of different coaches and trainers, both tactically and technically. The main complaint from most higher level coaches (college or pro) is a lack of versatility in player tactical abilities in different systems of play. Youth Players may have skill, they may be very athletic but they lack game understanding and knowledge because they play one system through-out youth soccer development. WHY? because coaches and docs take a group of players and keep them year to year in order to win some kind of a title and proclaim they are the best so that they can charge fees to parents and try to get more and more numbers into their club system.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The rest of the world is ahead of us in soccer because they make kids compete. At an early age they compete because they are encouraged to compete and hey son if you don't make the top team, then keep playing because they love the game! We love success here in the states and so if we perceive our kid isn't on the top team then we fix it. We will be behind until we just love soccer and promote our top players because we want the best teams not just necessarily for our child alone.
              the reason we can not compete is because we have a very biased system to begine with. you have a daddy coach who picks his kid even though he is #16 out of the 16 kids. you then have other parents that know this is happening so obviously the team is not going to be competitive if every player makes the team who has been loyal or who has siblings at the club, etc etc etc. these parents do not want their kid playing on a team like that. they want a fair playing field where the best kids make the team. teams should be picked by soccer knowledgeable people who will not have any connection to the team. make tryouts fair and unbiased to begin with and you will not have so many problems. a alot of the daddy coaches are coaching their kids because their kids would not make a higher level team. that is a fact at our club.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                the reason we can not compete is because we have a very biased system to begine with. you have a daddy coach who picks his kid even though he is #16 out of the 16 kids. you then have other parents that know this is happening so obviously the team is not going to be competitive if every player makes the team who has been loyal or who has siblings at the club, etc etc etc. these parents do not want their kid playing on a team like that. they want a fair playing field where the best kids make the team. teams should be picked by soccer knowledgeable people who will not have any connection to the team. make tryouts fair and unbiased to begin with and you will not have so many problems. a alot of the daddy coaches are coaching their kids because their kids would not make a higher level team. that is a fact at our club.
                Here's another observation. In some cases, I'll watch tryouts, but not at the kids, I watch the coaches, since I have Board position. I've coached at two differents sports, and I would have my notebook to write down and grade players. I would scale speed, technical, size, decision making and pure athletic ability. I watch today's coaches, and some take really good notes looking to upgrade their teams and some top coaches already have their players with a couple of new recruits. What gets me are the coaches with subpar teams, socializing like prancing dancers. Really? Your team is not that good, and your not looking at all the players at tryouts. It was the same when I coached, so nothing changed, except now they are getting paid. Seriously, just focus on the players for the 2 hours and do your job. I'm not the DOC, but your sure as ***** I'd kick the lazy ones out one at a time, if I was. But, I do keep notes, and the DOC loses points for allowing that stuff to happen. I just hate mediocrity.

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                  #9
                  I think there is a generational gap of quality skill experience for volunteer coaches at the rec level. Not many recreational soccer parents played much soccer past age 10-12 twenty to thirty years ago when they were kids and if they did there was even less quality coaching available than there is now. A few parents may have played at the high school level but that does not mean they were technically proficient. Many high schools in Florida did not have soccer programs until the 1990s.

                  Baseball and Football is full of volunteer parents because they grew up playing the game and have some knowledge to impart to the kids.

                  Because of the lack of parental experience, rec leagues struggle to fill all the coaching slots that need filling and therefore put any warm body they can find as coach. Many parents volunteer to be an assistant because they want to help but have very little knowledge of the game and they get stuck as the head coach because of lack of volunteers.

                  Due to all of this rec coaching is more often than not fairly poor. Many volunteer parent coaches only understand the basic rules and do not have the ability to teach technical skills that they themselves do not know very well.

                  The lack of qualified volunteers to teach technical soccer skills creates a demand for paid coaches. Hopefully as more skilled kids move into parenthood they give back to the game and become a more technically proficient volunteer parent coach. This will begin to decrease the demand for paid training if the kids can get it earlier at the rec level for rec level pricing.

                  What is really a problem is most non coaching parents at the rec level do not realize how much more there is to learn to excel at the game and how to achieve this. I did not learn in time for my older kid that has played many years of rec soccer but discovered what I did not know for my younger kid to move out of rec level training.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    the reason we can not compete is because we have a very biased system to begine with. you have a daddy coach who picks his kid even though he is #16 out of the 16 kids. you then have other parents that know this is happening so obviously the team is not going to be competitive if every player makes the team who has been loyal or who has siblings at the club, etc etc etc. these parents do not want their kid playing on a team like that. they want a fair playing field where the best kids make the team. teams should be picked by soccer knowledgeable people who will not have any connection to the team. make tryouts fair and unbiased to begin with and you will not have so many problems. a alot of the daddy coaches are coaching their kids because their kids would not make a higher level team. that is a fact at our club.
                    how about the snobs like you??????? You can pay the coach but not the Daddy:)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                      What is really a problem is most non coaching parents at the rec level do not realize how much more there is to learn to excel at the game and how to achieve this. .
                      Same could be said about our paid coaches since we have not produced a single WORLD CLASS player (not counting keepers)..

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        When they first appeared on the American youth soccer scene, the paid coaches were charged with creating competitive clubs and coaching teams for the ambitious, talented young players.

                        It's a hard thing to talk about pros and cons of the paid coach because the issue for me isn't that they shouldn't be paid, it's who's paying them. Once parents are paying them, that is when things get a little out of whack.

                        If they were able to get paid by an independent source, then I think there's not so much a salesman aspect to it and a lot of the problems go away from the standpoint of number of games, number of events and what you're doing developmentally in your training sessions and how you are approaching the games.

                        There are probably few easier ways to make money than by convincing parents they're investing in their kids' future. And the professional coaches, including the coaching companies that clubs hire to run their practices and tryouts, have been taking full advantage. They're making a killing by convincing parents that professional trainers are necessary even for tykes. Any child old enough to walk is a potential customer.

                        America took free play and transformed it into a business, an industry. Self-proclaimed experts sell false hopes and dreams and expectations to kids and their parents and the end result is burnout.

                        Indeed, when paid coaches encourage children as young as 7 to try out for their "elite" soccer teams, isn't it time to sound the alarm bells? It's certainly time to ask questions, like:

                        * Are they courting children at such young ages because it's good for the children or because it increases their incomes?

                        * Is the movement to send kids into competitive clubs at such a young age destroying the recreational leagues?

                        * Is it really a good idea to break up teams so early in a child's soccer experience?

                        * What message do tryouts send to the players who don't make the cut? Do they get discouraged and lose interest in the game? Are we chasing the late-bloomers away?

                        * And who do the coaches pick? The physically advanced kids? The "coachable" kids?

                        A volunteer coach gets a group of players and is charged with providing them all a good soccer experience. A paid coach hand-picks his team. Especially if these paid coaches come from one of the firms that are hired on a season-by-season basis, won't they be inclined to pick players who will make the team look good in the short term? Will they neglect the smaller kids or the free-spirited individualists who don't enjoy the regimented training sessions but could end up the best of them all?

                        And are these training sessions designed for the good of the players or to impress the parents?
                        The most common reason I hear from parents who send their children to paid coaches goes something like this, "Our coach is real nice but she's not really teaching them any skills."

                        That always reminds me of another thing: I don't believe skill was, or ever will be, the result of coaches. It is a result of a love affair between the child and the ball.

                        So what would happen if parents are paying a coach $100 per month and the coach implements the free-play kind of training that U.S. Soccer's coaching education and national team staff recommends?

                        I think they'll wonder why they're paying so much money for a coach who simply lets the kids play soccer and hardly gives instructions.

                        So the paid coaches bark at the players to prove to the parents that they're "teaching" and concoct training sessions that look more like dance rehearsals than soccer games.

                        And the children are denied the free play that, breeds imagination, enjoyment, passion and fun, and leads to the discovery of talent.

                        In conclusion, Soccer – which is a poor man’s sport throughout most of the world – has evolved into the sport of the upper-middle class in the U.S. Parents are paying $1,000 to $5,000 per season (PLUS additional fees for tournaments and personal training) to play “competitive” soccer where they train just 3 hours per week, because field space is limited. Rosters have too many kids on them and the kids AREN’T learning the game. Coaches, mandated by US Youth Soccer to have licenses are coaching multiple teams, so they never really understand their players’ needs or weaknesses. Meanwhile, the fees just keep increasing.

                        Youth soccer has become a money making scam on the middle class.

                        All you need is a ball to play – no equipment or special circumstances – so to control the market, public parks have been taken over by soccer clubs who “manage” the fields and lock them up when club management isn’t around.
                        Your post was amazing. By far the best post I have seen here in a long time. But what about the coaches that are really trying to coach or create a culture but unfortunately because of parents lack of commitment to push their child to be better at the sport that shouldn't be blame on the coach. Because the nature of the beast is usually if the parents lack the commitment then the child commitment level does also. Then it just becomes babysitting when coaching drills are not done properly because the child doesn't take the training serious because the parents are present at the practices or socializing too much instead of focused on the child growth and development on the sport. Now saying that let me take time to applaud all the parents that are committed and don't let the kids slack in practices training and in games. What people sometimes misunderstand is that this is a game and it is fun. But it's fun when it's played RIGHT. When a child is practicing and that difficult pass that he or she has been working on final he or she gets it because of the consent practice at it that's is the fun part of it. Coaches I applaud them for even taking time out of there days to try and improve these kids soccer skills but please understand that the coach can demand all we wants it's up to how the parents have raised their child level of commitment to becoming a better soccer player. Those coaches want every child to strive under them to show people that they know what they are doing. Remember it's a support system.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Your post was amazing. By far the best post I have seen here in a long time. But what about the coaches that are really trying to coach or create a culture but unfortunately because of parents lack of commitment to push their child to be better at the sport that shouldn't be blame on the coach. Because the nature of the beast is usually if the parents lack the commitment then the child commitment level does also. Then it just becomes babysitting when coaching drills are not done properly because the child doesn't take the training serious because the parents are present at the practices or socializing too much instead of focused on the child growth and development on the sport. Now saying that let me take time to applaud all the parents that are committed and don't let the kids slack in practices training and in games. What people sometimes misunderstand is that this is a game and it is fun. But it's fun when it's played RIGHT. When a child is practicing and that difficult pass that he or she has been working on final he or she gets it because of the consent practice at it that's is the fun part of it. Coaches I applaud them for even taking time out of there days to try and improve these kids soccer skills but please understand that the coach can demand all we wants it's up to how the parents have raised their child level of commitment to becoming a better soccer player. Those coaches want every child to strive under them to show people that they know what they are doing. Remember it's a support system.
                          If the OP is a coach, probably I would consider putting my child with that coach, mainly because of clear vision. But if you are a coach, I do not feel comfortable, not because you are any bad person, but you see, if I cannot understand your exact issue and all I see is bitching, then there won't be that free-style soccer learning, adds more to the confusion of my child and all family.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If the OP is a coach, probably I would consider putting my child with that coach, mainly because of clear vision. But if you are a coach, I do not feel comfortable, not because you are any bad person, but you see, if I cannot understand your exact issue and all I see is bitching, then there won't be that free-style soccer learning, adds more to the confusion of my child and all family.
                            every coach wants their kids playing game like situations as much as possible but technically is very important in the game situations. To kids the technical part is doing the same thing over and over usually bores them but practice makes permanent. I promise you every coaches wants to come to practice and run the practice as smooth as possible with the warm up and early drills and get to scrimmaging as much as possible for the rest of practice.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              every coach wants their kids playing game like situations as much as possible but technically is very important in the game situations. To kids the technical part is doing the same thing over and over usually bores them but practice makes permanent. I promise you every coaches wants to come to practice and run the practice as smooth as possible with the warm up and early drills and get to scrimmaging as much as possible for the rest of practice.
                              I have no idea why you say this, you may have your reasoning.

                              But, let me tell you my opinion: Do not generalise your statements on coaching. First understand what age group we are talking.
                              Then evaluate every individual players level of
                              1. current ball skill
                              2. athletism/agility/fitness level
                              3. social and team skills, communication body language/verbal

                              Based on findings, then set up drills and training to suit that particular individual and then team. Personally, I have used parents help in many of the above situations.

                              But what the OP said makes lot more sense. It is not coaching, where is FREE STYLE soccer opportunity gone ?

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