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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Stars is the only club in the country that didn't clearly define DA as the A team and ECNL as the B team. Check the ECNL standings. All the other clubs who were ECNL powerhouses who are fielding both teams this year their B teams are much less successful in the ECNL than their predecessor ECNl teams. Even stars have their very best YNT players in the DA so even their ECNL teams are weaker this year, but just not as weak as the other ECNL teams. The level is much lower. The top level is still the DA. The very best teams are DA. There is now just more dilution so the parity is completely lost in the DA. Time will tell, but i suspect the parity will resume over a short period of time 3-5 years. USSF will agressively cut the underperformers and replace with top performing ECNL clubs in rational geographic regions. The canaries will include Stars. I am guessing that JD is already catching it from the USSF. The others to watch are in the DC area will bethesda and Mcleab shift? Will the DA go into ohio? I could go on but it is interesting to watch.
    Except those clubs that backed out after landing the "coveted" DA spot.

    Wait until the Cali clubs break off. GDA will then be just another national alphabet league.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      This is exactly what happened with the ECNL. Originally touted as a developmental league with restricted game day rosters and substitutions, opposing clubs that were freaked out by the closed league combined with clueless parents soon honed in on standings as the only metric of success rather than learning to play the right way.
      Yes, the winning at all costs and pading stats practice is one of the key contributors to the US’s struggles in keeping up internationally. Yet here it starts half way though the inaugural GDA season.

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        #18
        As far as I know, the players choose DA or ECNL at Stars, with the exception of the current national team players who are directed to DA by the "Federation". Since the player is paying, the choice is what is best for them which takes into account all the factors in both leagues. Stars ECNL has been very competitive for years and many ECNL players are happy with the coaching and development and choose to stay in that environment. DA was an opportunity to pursue other aspirations, national team etc. Some followed that pathway, many did not.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          As far as I know, the players choose DA or ECNL at Stars, with the exception of the current national team players who are directed to DA by the "Federation". Since the player is paying, the choice is what is best for them which takes into account all the factors in both leagues. Stars ECNL has been very competitive for years and many ECNL players are happy with the coaching and development and choose to stay in that environment. DA was an opportunity to pursue other aspirations, national team etc. Some followed that pathway, many did not.
          Probably because that pathway isn't realistic for the vast, VAST majority of players and they (mostly) know it. If if isn't your path than you have more options. If it is, by next year GDA will pretty much be your only option because USSF will start being exclusive GDA just to make their point.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered
            Probably because that pathway isn't realistic for the vast, VAST majority of players and they (mostly) know it. If if isn't your path than you have more options. If it is, by next year GDA will pretty much be your only option because USSF will start being exclusive GDA just to make their point.
            What are the rumors about waivers. BBA gave out waivers to almost every private school kid. Is that going to be banned by next year?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              What are the rumors about waivers. BBA gave out waivers to almost every private school kid. Is that going to be banned by next year?
              Players already playing in HS are grandfathered in until 2021. Players only have to get club approval for that, no tUSSF. After that it will also require USSF approval.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered
                Players already playing in HS are grandfathered in until 2021. Players only have to get club approval for that, no tUSSF. After that it will also require USSF approval.
                Can you provide the source? I couldn't find it on the ussoccerda website.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Goes to show Stars only care about ECNL.
                  not a surprise , best players in that program are in ECNL

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Wonder how many of those top clubs are doing both DA and ECNL? I don't care enough to figure it out though.
                    That is a good question. BBreakers and Penn Fusion opted out of ECNL all together. Cincinnati may have as well. Legends were USYS, right? But most kept their ECNL and their NPL. Nice feeder system in place.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Can you provide the source? I couldn't find it on the ussoccerda website.
                      probably using US Soccer rankings. Absolutely not a Got Soccer thing.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Stars is the only club in the country that didn't clearly define DA as the A team and ECNL as the B team. Check the ECNL standings. All the other clubs who were ECNL powerhouses who are fielding both teams this year their B teams are much less successful in the ECNL than their predecessor ECNl teams. Even stars have their very best YNT players in the DA so even their ECNL teams are weaker this year, but just not as weak as the other ECNL teams. The level is much lower. The top level is still the DA. The very best teams are DA. There is now just more dilution so the parity is completely lost in the DA. Time will tell, but i suspect the parity will resume over a short period of time 3-5 years. USSF will agressively cut the underperformers and replace with top performing ECNL clubs in rational geographic regions. The canaries will include Stars. I am guessing that JD is already catching it from the USSF. The others to watch are in the DC area will bethesda and Mcleab shift? Will the DA go into ohio? I could go on but it is interesting to watch.
                        GDA is in Ohio already (Cin DA). But will probably pick up another. Didn't MI Hawks put some of higher level kids in ECNL in the younger divisions? Some kids from Bethesda and McLean are in Spirit; YNT still lists their club team but they are in Spirit. So i don't see it happening yet. Spirit and other NWSL clubs will not have anything other than DA attached to it. So, ECNL options are still good for that area as they have a bunch of soccer players. Some clubs are opting out for next year already. Trading in the DA emblem for ECNL if not already in it (Virg DA just announced).

                        Such a sh#t show.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          A summary of all of the above. Figures in parentheses are U14, U15, U16/17, and U18/19 rankings, respectively. Sorted by average ranking.

                          1 NTH Tophat (6, 3, 9, 11) Avg: 7.25
                          2 FC Dallas (4, 1, 1, 27) Avg: 8.25
                          3 Solar Soccer Club (15, 6, 7, 9) Avg: 9.25
                          4 Penn Fusion Soccer Academy (3, 14, 11, 12) Avg: 10
                          5 Legends FC (5, 7, 15, 14) Avg: 10.25
                          6 Sky Blue - PDA (13, 5, 14, 10) Avg: 10.5
                          7 Cincinnati Development Academy (8, 8, 3, 24) Avg: 10.75
                          7 Real Colorado (1, 29, 6, 7) Avg: 10.75
                          9 San Diego Surf (2, 13, 30, 2) Avg: 11.75
                          10 Michigan Hawks (23, 2, 17, 13) Avg: 13.75
                          ......
                          And in case you were wondering, Southwest is indeed best:

                          Conference Rankings
                          1 Southwest - West Division (1, 1, 3, 1) Avg: 1.5
                          2 Mid-America - Central Division (2, 2, 2, 2) Avg: 2
                          3 Frontier - Central Division (3, 3, 1, 3) Avg: 2.5
                          4 Northwest - West Division (6, 4, 5, 5) Avg: 5
                          4 Southeast - East Division (5, 5, 4, 6) Avg: 5
                          6 Atlantic - East Division (4, 7, 6, 4) Avg: 5.25
                          7 Northeast - East Division (7, 6, 7, 7) Avg: 6.75
                          Of course, southwest would be the best represented as they have the most DA teams!

                          If you review the top 10 club rankings, it's a good mix of clubs all over.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Can you provide the source? I couldn't find it on the ussoccerda website.
                            It was in a communications memo. Girls are definitely grandfathered. They weren't initially but clubs and USSF realized they had to back off. After 2021 girls have to prove they rely on soccer for their prep or boarding school, just like boys do now. Clubs can refuse to grant waivers (as some BDA clubs do now) and so can USSF.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered
                              It was in a communications memo. Girls are definitely grandfathered. They weren't initially but clubs and USSF realized they had to back off. After 2021 girls have to prove they rely on soccer for their prep or boarding school, just like boys do now. Clubs can refuse to grant waivers (as some BDA clubs do now) and so can USSF.
                              Thanks, BBA admin. Anyone wonder where this thread started? You have your answer.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                GDA will then be just another national alphabet league.
                                Until it proves otherwise, why would I consider it to be anything but this?

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