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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The whole year? Or just fall sports?
    There's chatter Ivies will move fall sports to the spring, but Harvards announcement said the decision on spring semester won't even be decided until December.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Harvard announced today that only 40 Percent of students will be allowed back to campus. Mostly freshmen and seniors. That means no varsity sports.
      This is going to be pretty much every school. Heard the same thing about BU and BC. Nobody can have all their students back in residence halls or classrooms and socially distance. They don’t have the space to comply with the guidelines. They also don’t want students traveling which is going to put the kibosh on sports since they can’t have teams traveling on buses or planes and doing overnights.

      Notice in that Princeton letter that they see the virus as a LONG-TERM fact of life. This isn’t just a 2020-21 issue; it could be years. And let’s face it as a “wicked smaht” university that employs genius professors who work in virology and drug discovery they know it will likely be years, if ever, that we have a really effective treatment or vaccine for this.

      This is the new normal folks, get used to it...

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        There's chatter Ivies will move fall sports to the spring, but Harvards announcement said the decision on spring semester won't even be decided until December.
        They could move it to the moon too. Seriously what difference would moving it to the spring make? They will have the same issues then too.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          This is such a double edge sword....expecting parents to pay nearly full price for a clearly diminished education? We saw how the online thing went this spring. While it may be adequate, it's still not worth a 20K pricetag for a semester?? On the other hand, if the Universities don't have paying students, they can't sustain the expensive models they have all evolved into!

          Will many opt out and take a gap year? Stay at home and do CC online?? Thoughts on this from those of you who have children in college? Fortunately I got mine out just in time before this **** show.
          They obviously have to limit gap year a small number or else there will unmanageable numbers later. I''m not so concerned about this for college kids. The real problem is the grade school kids in our inner cities. Many of them won't attend on line classes even if the schools provide free computers and free internet access. Even those who do attend will fall further and further behind kids at elite schools who will have far better on-line programs. The added toll on these kids' futures is sad.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            They could move it to the moon too. Seriously what difference would moving it to the spring make? They will have the same issues then too.
            It is just kicking the can down the road. Even if a vaccine is approved in the early spring, its effectiveness on a population-wide level won't be evaluated before fall 2021. So, to the extent they aren't going to open this fall, it is really going to be fall 2021 at the earliest. They just don't have the guts to tell you that now.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              They could move it to the moon too. Seriously what difference would moving it to the spring make? They will have the same issues then too.
              They're offering hope - hope that the virus becomes less lethal, there's a vaccine or better treatments. We just don't know right now.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                They obviously have to limit gap year a small number or else there will unmanageable numbers later. I''m not so concerned about this for college kids. The real problem is the grade school kids in our inner cities. Many of them won't attend on line classes even if the schools provide free computers and free internet access. Even those who do attend will fall further and further behind kids at elite schools who will have far better on-line programs. The added toll on these kids' futures is sad.
                That's a good point :(

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  They obviously have to limit gap year a small number or else there will unmanageable numbers later. I''m not so concerned about this for college kids. The real problem is the grade school kids in our inner cities. Many of them won't attend on line classes even if the schools provide free computers and free internet access. Even those who do attend will fall further and further behind kids at elite schools who will have far better on-line programs. The added toll on these kids' futures is sad.
                  With two in college this is a hot topic right now with our kids and all their friends. Some schools are basically telling kids no gap year allowed. You can stay home and take classes on line but no "gap". Others are allowing it readily. Incoming freshmen at some schools are also being told you can't defer - you would have to apply again next year.

                  This could be a real nightmare for 21's if loads of students take a year off.

                  Absolutely agree with K-12 kids. They've lost so much already, especially in weak school systems. It's also easier to send kids home if they get sick or shut down a school district for a few weeks if it gets "hot" vs grappling with all the complications of college students.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    They're offering hope - hope that the virus becomes less lethal, there's a vaccine or better treatments. We just don't know right now.
                    Hope is not a strategy. Please list all the times in human history that a vaccine was discovered and delivered to a worldwide population within a few years after the disease appeared. Never - so why hope and plan around it? And with now tens of millions infected, we are hoping it will morph into something less worse? I’d hope the opposite and that it doesn’t morph into something more worse.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Here we go...the beginning of the end. Way to go, fear mongers, and those of you who bought into it. Newsflash: NO ONE college age dies! (well, statistically anyway--please spare me citing the PSU kid, or a couple others.....we're talking more die binge drinking every year, so why no prohibition??!)

                      https://www.princeton.edu/news/2020/...-academic-year

                      How gracious of Princeton to offer a 10% discount on 50% in person education experience. And, no mention of sports, that's coming Friday, but the Ivies are DONE.

                      Goodbye to our entire higher education system, and given that it and college sports are a big part of our economic machine, good bye, country. None of us will live long enough to see the recovery, and years from now in history class, they will read about all the idiot Americans who f**ed their whole country because of a "pandemic" that has a long way to go before it comes close to touching a death toll of an actual one. A child has a much greater chance of getting hit by lightning.
                      I don't go to Princeton, am I supposed to care?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I don't go to Princeton, am I supposed to care?
                        a) you cared enough to open a thread clearly titled "Princeton"

                        b) Just like the March Madness hysteria, the dominos have started to fall...all others now won't have a choice but to follow, and whether you are in college, have college aged kids, have younger than college aged kids, this will impact our society greatly....for a very long time, economically and otherwise.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          a) you cared enough to open a thread clearly titled "Princeton"

                          b) Just like the March Madness hysteria, the dominos have started to fall...all others now won't have a choice but to follow, and whether you are in college, have college aged kids, have younger than college aged kids, this will impact our society greatly....for a very long time, economically and otherwise.
                          It is temporary. Stop overreacting. It sucks but everything right now sucks.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            It is temporary. Stop overreacting. It sucks but everything right now sucks.
                            I hope and pray you are right! Trying not to be a Debbie Downer but it's getting hard....

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                              #29
                              Deaths are dropping as positive cases rise.They knew this, what’s the problem now.?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                With two in college this is a hot topic right now with our kids and all their friends. Some schools are basically telling kids no gap year allowed. You can stay home and take classes on line but no "gap". Others are allowing it readily. Incoming freshmen at some schools are also being told you can't defer - you would have to apply again next year.

                                This could be a real nightmare for 21's if loads of students take a year off.

                                Absolutely agree with K-12 kids. They've lost so much already, especially in weak school systems. It's also easier to send kids home if they get sick or shut down a school district for a few weeks if it gets "hot" vs grappling with all the complications of college students.
                                Feel for you. If your kid is going to one of these Ivies, what they laid you in their letter is a best case scenario for at least the next couple years. At least those schools have the attractiveness and endowments to weather the storm, but schools a few levels down in the rankings may not be so lucky. Sad to say it’s going to suck anyway you slice it, but all you can do is pick a school that will still be there on the other side years from now.

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