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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The difference between additional time spent training is not 100% for GDA vs anything else. While I would whole-heartedly agree that club training is mostly better than high school training, all the kids foregoing Glastonbury players (and other players at school with decent HS teams) are not missing much (except their high school years, state championships, playing in front of their school/town, all-state awards .....). After the two-month fall season (which has high schools going 5-6 days per week with training and games vs 3-4 days for training and games in GDA), they fall back to a nominal amount of training during our very long winter (less than other clubs), and then 3x per week in the Spring which is the same as every other club. if one of those 150 national top players is from Oakwood, great, not sure why the other 200 kids have to miss out on so much. Missing fall doesn't seem to affect the Prep school kids and US Soccer knows this (so why can't you see it?).

    the problem with you post is, you get these sweeping NATIONAL statements made. Posts referring to what clubs on the other side of the US are doing. Then you revert to a purely CT based mentality. Which is it ?


    If its just CT only, the stop talking about Slammers or Concode or anyone else. Your discussions should revolve around CT and the clubs outside CT that CT kids could reasonably travel to. NYCFC ? NYSC? I can tell you that the NYCFC program is light years ahead of the WCFC equivalent.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      In the eyes of USSF yes, because that's all they care about. Problem is they need thousands more players to make the league work. Those other thousands of players don't care about the top 150 unless it's their BFFs. They care about what works for THEM. For a decent number GDA isn't working for them or they had already decided last year GDA wasn't for them.
      If by not working for them, you meant they are not good enough then yes I agree. All your the arguments are ridiculous. People talk about the benefits of training and playing with the strongest players, then you basically say the top 150 are not worth playing/training with.

      Every sport has top player. the difference here is in most, its clear who tehy are and they are developed, trained adn surrounded by like minded/simialr talent. In the bubble that is girls soccer, you have kids with to level College potential playing alongside kids who literally have no chance against them. Parents rationalize it by talking about D1 like all D1 is equal. LOL. Like the kid who is CCSU material has a chance vs the kid who is Stanford material.

      what kind of league do you build when you have such a massive divergence in talent and you need 18 kids per team per age? Exactly. an unbalanced one.

      Once these kids actually get a taste of playing either a lot of minutes vs one or two very high level players, they realize they are miles away from that. they either stick it out to try to get better or say, hey why not go back and play HS. Im not going to bridge that gap. Perfectly logical until the parents then start to spin all kinds of BS around it ,

      its ok to play HS . Enjoy it , have fun. but make no mistake, NATIONALLY, we have a talent problem that will not be solved by the current set ups.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        the problem with you post is, you get these sweeping NATIONAL statements made. Posts referring to what clubs on the other side of the US are doing. Then you revert to a purely CT based mentality. Which is it ?


        If its just CT only, the stop talking about Slammers or Concode or anyone else. Your discussions should revolve around CT and the clubs outside CT that CT kids could reasonably travel to. NYCFC ? NYSC? I can tell you that the NYCFC program is light years ahead of the WCFC equivalent.
        So, is your post about CT teams or teams outside of CT?

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Don't blame them. As rising sophomores they are in good shape to do well on varsity squads. You're only a kid once.
          Thats fine, but then accept it for what it is.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            So, is your post about CT teams or teams outside of CT?
            I responded to this post....

            Slammers will be next. I think Crossfire stays doing both. But just wait until these clubs see the poor standard next year. More will leave.

            How could LISC and Empire stay in GDAP ?

            Pretty clear no?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Thats fine, but then accept it for what it is.
              Which is what? They've decided doing GDA isn't a good fit for them. It doesn't mean they aren't good players. And face it, it wasn't hard to make the OW GDA squads. Try again OW intern. You're losing players and will get even fewer at tryouts this year than last. You couldn't get any top ECNL players last year when you had a shot. Now that GDA is on very shaky legs you're guaranteed not to get any this year.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Which is what? They've decided doing GDA isn't a good fit for them. It doesn't mean they aren't good players. And face it, it wasn't hard to make the OW GDA squads. Try again OW intern. You're losing players and will get even fewer at tryouts this year than last. You couldn't get any top ECNL players last year when you had a shot. Now that GDA is on very shaky legs you're guaranteed not to get any this year.
                Ive got NOTHING to do with OW. Does CT actually have more than 2 or 3 players who could be called top players? For all the talking, lets face it CT is pretty irrelevant nationally. So stop talking abut national Clubs. continue your Hatfield vs MCCoy nonsense that us outsiders come here to laugh at.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Ive got NOTHING to do with OW. Does CT actually have more than 2 or 3 players who could be called top players? For all the talking, lets face it CT is pretty irrelevant nationally. So stop talking abut national Clubs. continue your Hatfield vs MCCoy nonsense that us outsiders come here to laugh at.
                  If you’re truly an outsider just coming here for laughs, I’d recommmend several YouTube channels that are much funnier. Not much that I’d consider funny here, mostly venom and vitriol and fat arse Dads pounding their man boob chests.

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                    #24
                    I'm a social scientist studying the effects of youth sports and group think on society. There are some real gems in here.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Don't blame them. As rising sophomores they are in good shape to do well on varsity squads. You're only a kid once.
                      Did the kids finally realize this and revolt against their parents?

                      Playing academy as a female is CT is total sucker's bet.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Did the kids finally realize this and revolt against their parents?

                        Playing academy as a female is CT is total sucker's bet.
                        OW did a good job pulling the wool over many sets of eyes. A year in many families are seeing clearly again.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          OW did a good job pulling the wool over many sets of eyes. A year in many families are seeing clearly again.
                          Better late than never.

                          Skipping high school sports is a hugely regrettable move driven by parent ego.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If by not working for them, you meant they are not good enough then yes I agree. All your the arguments are ridiculous. People talk about the benefits of training and playing with the strongest players, then you basically say the top 150 are not worth playing/training with.

                            Every sport has top player. the difference here is in most, its clear who tehy are and they are developed, trained adn surrounded by like minded/simialr talent. In the bubble that is girls soccer, you have kids with to level College potential playing alongside kids who literally have no chance against them. Parents rationalize it by talking about D1 like all D1 is equal. LOL. Like the kid who is CCSU material has a chance vs the kid who is Stanford material.

                            what kind of league do you build when you have such a massive divergence in talent and you need 18 kids per team per age? Exactly. an unbalanced one.

                            Once these kids actually get a taste of playing either a lot of minutes vs one or two very high level players, they realize they are miles away from that. they either stick it out to try to get better or say, hey why not go back and play HS. Im not going to bridge that gap. Perfectly logical until the parents then start to spin all kinds of BS around it ,

                            its ok to play HS . Enjoy it , have fun. but make no mistake, NATIONALLY, we have a talent problem that will not be solved by the current set ups.
                            Kind of funny where the top players going to Duke or Alabama for basketball, football, baseball, or golf, play alongside the schleps that have no chance playing at Gateway CC, but in those sports, it still works. All pay to play systems that bubble up talent as kids get older. Whereas, in soccer, it is a requirement that the top players only play with and against each other in a league set up by the national governing body. Give me a break. If any kid has the talent and wants it, it is on them to break down an barriers and impediments and snatch it from anyone that is trying to take it from them. Perhaps it isn't the system, but rather that our soccer players are simply still not good enough, on average, to take what they want .... perhaps because their parents keep fixing everything for them.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Kind of funny where the top players going to Duke or Alabama for basketball, football, baseball, or golf, play alongside the schleps that have no chance playing at Gateway CC, but in those sports, it still works. All pay to play systems that bubble up talent as kids get older. Whereas, in soccer, it is a requirement that the top players only play with and against each other in a league set up by the national governing body. Give me a break. If any kid has the talent and wants it, it is on them to break down an barriers and impediments and snatch it from anyone that is trying to take it from them. Perhaps it isn't the system, but rather that our soccer players are simply still not good enough, on average, to take what they want .... perhaps because their parents keep fixing everything for them.
                              Perhaps your parents should have helped fix your incoherent writing style.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Kind of funny where the top players going to Duke or Alabama for basketball, football, baseball, or golf, play alongside the schleps that have no chance playing at Gateway CC, but in those sports, it still works. All pay to play systems that bubble up talent as kids get older. Whereas, in soccer, it is a requirement that the top players only play with and against each other in a league set up by the national governing body. Give me a break. If any kid has the talent and wants it, it is on them to break down an barriers and impediments and snatch it from anyone that is trying to take it from them. Perhaps it isn't the system, but rather that our soccer players are simply still not good enough, on average, to take what they want .... perhaps because their parents keep fixing everything for them.
                                I agree. there is no bubbling up here in girls soccer. if it gets "hard" they just join another Club or league. Or go back to HS. No kid left behind. You can still go to a College and get money and be a pretty average player. Excellence is not required outside of maybe 20 schools (and Im being generous) At a the recent u 18,19,20 camp 22/72 players came from 2 schools.

                                National gov body has nothing to do with it on the girls side . too soon. This existed long before they got involved. in the sports you mention there is something worth snatching. your example are either individual sports where you play vs par, a time or another opponent. In the case of football, baseball , basketball, there is real money AND an incentive for inner city kids. baseballs inner city is the Caribbean islands.

                                Girls soccer is a totally different set of incentives and a very low bar that allows subpar talent to still play at D 1 level. there are many D1 soccer players who came to our Club in the offseason and play/practice with the GDA team . on balance they were fitter, but the level of play was not great. When they were all put on on team in rR 8vs 8 scrimmages on their own team vs 2000s 2001s they did not win .

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