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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You couldn't be more off. An Ivy admit can get all or nearly a free ride to literally hundreds of stronger schools, especially if there's financial aid as well. Ivies are also very generous with need based scholarships, much more so than other schools thanks to massive endowments. Its the middle to upper income families that don't qualify for financial assistance but don't make enough for college that have to make the tougher choices. But CCSU vs an Ivy isn't one of those choices.
    Middle and upper middle class families do not get need based money ... not at harvard, not at CCSU, not at Williams, not anywhere. That said, very good students are average or below average in the Harvard pool. Harvard is a business and can do better. Despite what you think they do NOT give their money away and their enormous endowments are not infinite. They give it to very high achievers and I am sure they are banking on getting it back in spades somewhere down the road through a kids exceptional abilities that bear fruit or from a wealthy families endowments that are simply grateful they gave odd-johnny a chance even though he picks his nose and eats it and has never worked a day in his life. Middle class, strong students have difficult choices to make and blindly choosing Harvard because of its name and despite it's hefty price tag is not for everyone. Good for you if you can do it, it would kill my family and we have other kids that would like to eat and go to college as well.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Like Amazon, many college websites tell you other similar schools to ones you're looking at. Put in CCSU and you get all the CT state schools, U Hartford, U Bridgeport, FU, Quinnipiac. Note: No Yale. No Harvard. Put in Harvard and you get the other Ivies, Duke, NYU, UChicago etc. Ivy kids can get excellent merit packages from schools like Tulane, Lehigh, LaSalle, Villanova, as well as many top state schools around the country. Taking on some debt (a manageable amount) isn't a bad thing if the difference in the education qualify justifies it.
      I am not disagreeing with you, but as your prospective student deviates farther above the academic norm for any school, merit money increases. Coupled with a very reasonable cost of CCSU for in-state residents, this could result in a very large reduction in student debt. We are at an all time high right now and it is only getting worse. Someone has to be responsible. Not everyone can eat lobster and caviar at every sitting.

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        For the facts on Ivies: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-i...l-university-3

        I know several Ivy admitted kids who fell into that abyss - have the grades to get in but the family makes too much to get much assistance (even with the more robust aid policies at Ivies many families around here make too much). So then your options start to look like 1) take on a lot of debt to go to an Ivy, or 2) step down a bit to where what isn't covered in a large merit package can be covered by the family or very modest loans. Taking on the federal max means graduating with about $25K, a manageable sum if you chose a decently paying career, not theatre management or philosophy.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I am not disagreeing with you, but as your prospective student deviates farther above the academic norm for any school, merit money increases. Coupled with a very reasonable cost of CCSU for in-state residents, this could result in a very large reduction in student debt. We are at an all time high right now and it is only getting worse. Someone has to be responsible. Not everyone can eat lobster and caviar at every sitting.
          A top student would be bored silly at CCSU.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I was in corporate management for many years before moving into soccer as a vocation. A hobby and game that became my purpose.

            But while I was in corporate management, at a Fortune 100 company, and one of biggest global corporations there is, I had opportunity to hire many people across many years, coming out of college.

            I assure you that we hired as many that rolled out of schools like CCSU as we did that rolled out of Colgate or Bucknell or the like. The school usually had far less to do with it than the quality of the person sitting in the interview.
            Please don't listen to this nonsense. Out of school vs mid career are very different things. I've worked with plenty of people who have top corporate jobs that started at SCSU and other places.

            The BIG difference here is that those kids don't get looks coming out of school. They have to find a back door in or work their way later in their careers. Top companies don't recruit at CCSU. They do however recruit at Bucknell, Colgate etc. A school like Fairfield is probably the lowest tier for decent corporate recruiting. After that, kids are settling for jobs at ADP, Adecco and so on. Please come back to reality.

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              While there are stories of millionaires who went to lesser quality schools, the majority of their classmates will never achieve the same level of success. What you get out of college isn't just the education (and the quality of your professors at CCSU won't be the same level at Bucknell) but also internship opportunities, on campus recruiting, networking via professors, alumni, and classmates. It can be a difference maker with getting into top grad schools as well, a necessity these days with many careers. A Bucknell grad will start off on the track meet of life in a better position and is more likely to keep that advantage all along.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                While there are stories of millionaires who went to lesser quality schools, the majority of their classmates will never achieve the same level of success. What you get out of college isn't just the education (and the quality of your professors at CCSU won't be the same level at Bucknell) but also internship opportunities, on campus recruiting, networking via professors, alumni, and classmates. It can be a difference maker with getting into top grad schools as well, a necessity these days with many careers. A Bucknell grad will start off on the track meet of life in a better position and is more likely to keep that advantage all along.
                All well and good if your level of success in life is becoming a millionaire. If your goal in life is to be comfortable according to the parameters of your own desires , you can discard the expectations and judgements of others. Additionally , an institutional education may also be cloistered and a true educational experience in life involves more than the lectures of a tenured sequestered voice and a collective like minded audience. When you look at life as a “ track meet” , you can actually do yourself a great disservice. Perhaps that helps explain the heightened need for increased mental health counseling , and the drug ,allcohol and behavior issues that have shown a dramatic rise on today’s college campuses.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  All well and good if your level of success in life is becoming a millionaire. If your goal in life is to be comfortable according to the parameters of your own desires , you can discard the expectations and judgements of others. Additionally , an institutional education may also be cloistered and a true educational experience in life involves more than the lectures of a tenured sequestered voice and a collective like minded audience. When you look at life as a “ track meet” , you can actually do yourself a great disservice. Perhaps that helps explain the heightened need for increased mental health counseling , and the drug ,allcohol and behavior issues that have shown a dramatic rise on today’s college campuses.
                  Drug and alcohol use is up everywhere, not just college campuses. Our society is stressed out and depressed, young and old and every inbetween. Many kids are ill prepared to handle the stresses of college and life thanks to over involved parents that have micromanaged their lives up until age 18, some helicoptering well into college. Many university presidents wish the drinking age was back at 18. Kids come to college with little experience drinking then go bezerk once campus. "Back in our day" when the drinking age was 18 many of us got that out of our system before college.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Drug and alcohol use is up everywhere, not just college campuses. Our society is stressed out and depressed, young and old and every inbetween. Many kids are ill prepared to handle the stresses of college and life thanks to over involved parents that have micromanaged their lives up until age 18, some helicoptering well into college. Many university presidents wish the drinking age was back at 18. Kids come to college with little experience drinking then go bezerk once campus. "Back in our day" when the drinking age was 18 many of us got that out of our system before college.
                    You're an "old head"... drinking age was 18? Is your grandkids playing soccer now?
                    Because you can't have kids in HS age.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      All well and good if your level of success in life is becoming a millionaire. If your goal in life is to be comfortable according to the parameters of your own desires , you can discard the expectations and judgements of others. Additionally , an institutional education may also be cloistered and a true educational experience in life involves more than the lectures of a tenured sequestered voice and a collective like minded audience. When you look at life as a “ track meet” , you can actually do yourself a great disservice. Perhaps that helps explain the heightened need for increased mental health counseling , and the drug ,allcohol and behavior issues that have shown a dramatic rise on today’s college campuses.
                      Not a track meet, but here is how I define success.
                      1 daughter goes to high academic college
                      2 has a good career
                      3 meets a good man to be her partner (ie not a soccer coach who becomes sexually active with a teenage girl he is coaching
                      4 votes republican (both of them)
                      5 has a family of her own
                      6 gives her children an even better start then I gave her
                      Rises to meet her challenges, leads a life she can be proud of and leaves this world knowing that she gave her all and had a positive impact on the ones she loved.

                      Number 1 is done, 6 and 4 are the only other two that really matter

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        You're an "old head"... drinking age was 18? Is your grandkids playing soccer now?
                        Because you can't have kids in HS age.
                        Didn't grow up in CT or go to school here (two different states ). Last kid still in HS and I'm not that old

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Not a track meet, but here is how I define success.
                          1 daughter goes to high academic college
                          2 has a good career
                          3 meets a good man to be her partner (ie not a soccer coach who becomes sexually active with a teenage girl he is coaching
                          4 votes republican (both of them)
                          5 has a family of her own
                          6 gives her children an even better start then I gave her
                          Rises to meet her challenges, leads a life she can be proud of and leaves this world knowing that she gave her all and had a positive impact on the ones she loved.

                          Number 1 is done, 6 and 4 are the only other two that really matter
                          That’s fine but you don’t necessarily need number one to be successful.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            You're an "old head"... drinking age was 18? Is your grandkids playing soccer now?
                            Because you can't have kids in HS age.
                            I have a kid in middle school

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I have a kid in middle school
                              Like to see it......viagra is keeping these old guys active later in life. Good for you old man

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                                Did everybody's favorite CFC team add any players to the mix? Looking to change the chemistry? Picking up some talent to win a few more games??

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