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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    If we are talking numbers, here is the break down TOP 20 area teams today for U12-U18 (boys). Got Soccer rankings are hugely flawed. This does, however, paint an overall picture.

    JFC 6 teams (two in U12 and one each in U13, U15, U16, U18)
    CCSC 3 teams (U12, U14)
    Creeks 2 (U12, U13)
    JYSC 2 (U14, U17)

    BTW the coach of the U12 CCSC team has a son that plays at JFC!

    In addition to the above-mentioned, JFC has affiliation with the NPSL team JUFC and partners, often, with UNF soccer.

    JFC is, simply, the powerhouse in the area.
    Also, if you look at the roster posted on Got Soccer for the JFC U17 boys elite team, most of those players were part of the JYS team that amassed the points that got JYS the ranking they have on Got Soccer.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      If we are talking numbers, here is the break down TOP 20 area teams today for U12-U18 (boys). Got Soccer rankings are hugely flawed. This does, however, paint an overall picture.

      JFC 6 teams (two in U12 and one each in U13, U15, U16, U18)
      CCSC 3 teams (U12, U14)
      Creeks 2 (U12, U13)
      JYSC 2 (U14, U17)

      BTW the coach of the U12 CCSC team has a son that plays at JFC!

      In addition to the above-mentioned, JFC has affiliation with the NPSL team JUFC and partners, often, with UNF soccer.

      JFC is, simply, the powerhouse in the area.
      I would not mention UNF ever. The coach is horrible and the program really bad for men and women not much better. The coach is a DA scout. What a joke.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Top Boys Teams NEFL
        U11- Creeks
        U12 - JFC
        U13- JFC
        U14 - CCSC
        U15 - Westside
        U16 - JFC
        U17 - Jysc
        Being a "Top" team in NEFL ain't sayin' much.

        Be a "Top" team in ALL of Florida (State Cup winner, State Cup finalist, State Cup Final Four or top ten ranking) from NEFL THEN you've got something to say. Of which over the years NEFL has produced very few very infrequently.

        On a statewide basis NEFL just isn't very good in boys' youth club soccer.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          If we are talking numbers, here is the break down TOP 20 area teams today for U12-U18 (boys). Got Soccer rankings are hugely flawed. This does, however, paint an overall picture.

          JFC 6 teams (two in U12 and one each in U13, U15, U16, U18)
          CCSC 3 teams (U12, U14)
          Creeks 2 (U12, U13)
          JYSC 2 (U14, U17)

          BTW the coach of the U12 CCSC team has a son that plays at JFC!

          In addition to the above-mentioned, JFC has affiliation with the NPSL team JUFC and partners, often, with UNF soccer.

          JFC is, simply, the powerhouse in the area.
          Sorry, but statewide rankings for the younger teams (U12 and U13) are meaningless and useless.

          And at U15 and above, after the top 4 - 8, all the rest of the teams should be ranked #9 (because there's not much difference between them).

          Where as JFC is one of the biggest and arguably one of the best, if not the best in Jax, being a powerhouse in an area like Jacksonville is unimpressive.

          Be a powerhouse in Florida - now THAT would be impressive.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Also, if you look at the roster posted on Got Soccer for the JFC U17 boys elite team, most of those players were part of the JYS team that amassed the points that got JYS the ranking they have on Got Soccer.
            and JFC doesn't steal players?

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              #36
              You are a freaking idiot!

              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              and JFC doesn't steal players?
              This whole concept of "stealing" players is just rediculous! It is a free market system. It is based on choice. As a parent of a club soccer player you choose where you will spend your time and money. Nobody has a gun to anyone's head forcing them to play for their club. ED and SH, who were earlier implicated as player stealers, are not sneaking into other clubs offices and stealing player cards in the dark of night. They simply are responsible for a product offering. Think of it as a menu of sorts. Just like with food, if you like the menu selection at McDonalds better than Burger King then you will choose McDonalds. People that change clubs do so for various reasons. Those, like my family, that travel past other clubs daily to get to JFC do so because the other clubs quite frankly don't have a menu that suits our taste as well as JFC. In fact, to keep with the analogy, the other clubs gave us food poisoning. Again, nobody is stolen. The players and the families are the customer, and can therefore choose wisely the club that most meets their needs!
              So, what's your real beef? Other players from yor kids team CHOOSE JFC but your kid didn't make the cut? For long term development and opportunity, especially on the boys side, JFC is the only real choice for seriously talented kids!

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                This whole concept of "stealing" players is just rediculous! It is a free market system. It is based on choice. As a parent of a club soccer player you choose where you will spend your time and money. Nobody has a gun to anyone's head forcing them to play for their club. ED and SH, who were earlier implicated as player stealers, are not sneaking into other clubs offices and stealing player cards in the dark of night. They simply are responsible for a product offering. Think of it as a menu of sorts. Just like with food, if you like the menu selection at McDonalds better than Burger King then you will choose McDonalds. People that change clubs do so for various reasons. Those, like my family, that travel past other clubs daily to get to JFC do so because the other clubs quite frankly don't have a menu that suits our taste as well as JFC. In fact, to keep with the analogy, the other clubs gave us food poisoning. Again, nobody is stolen. The players and the families are the customer, and can therefore choose wisely the club that most meets their needs!
                So, what's your real beef? Other players from yor kids team CHOOSE JFC but your kid didn't make the cut? For long term development and opportunity, especially on the boys side, JFC is the only real choice for seriously talented kids!
                Exactly. We, too, drive past our community club and two others to get to JFC. We are new to the club this year and I continue to be amazed with the difference in training and all the opportunities for my son.

                And to the poster that feels NE FL has no talent, why are you bothering to read on this thread? This is a discussion for those that live here who are looking for the best opportunities IN OUR AREA for our players. No one is comparing JFC to OCYS....so just relax.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  And to the poster that feels NE FL has no talent,...
                  Please post the post # in this thread that said, "NE FL has no talent": I can't find it.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Please post the post # in this thread that said, "NE FL has no talent": I can't find it.
                    Post #38

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                      #40
                      does not have to

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      and JFC doesn't steal players?
                      JFC doesn't have to steal players because Creeks boys program is a Joke and JYSC is not far ahead of Creeks. Creeks Kraze is right because boys are Kazy to stay there.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        JFC doesn't have to steal players because Creeks boys program is a Joke and JYSC is not far ahead of Creeks. Creeks Kraze is right because boys are Kazy to stay there.
                        With Creeks' alliance (or whatever you care to call it) with FKK, Creeks is heading down the same road as FKK: all about the girls.

                        Over his time in Florida, Creeks' Executive Director HM (now also at FKK, before that at OCYS and before that CFU) he accomplished little to nothing to get boys beyond youth club soccer during their high school years.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Post #38
                          Exactly. Thanks.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Top Boys Teams NEFL
                            U11- Creeks
                            U12 - JFC
                            U13- JFC
                            U14 - CCSC
                            U15 - Westside
                            U16 - JFC
                            U17 - Jysc
                            You're kidding about the u11's right?

                            JFC's u11's are better than Creeks' u11's. JFC's are playing up in the U12 Gold Bracket- and if you want to go with a Got Soccer ranking of 4th in Florida. They're doing well in their bracket at 3rd. JYS U11s are also playing up in the U12 Gold braket and has a Got Soccer ranking of 10, however, they beat JFC's u11s and are in 2nd in NEFL

                            Creeks' u11's are playing on age, were spanked by JFC's u10s (playing up) and have only one 2 games. They're GS ranked 27. Creeks u10's are at the top of that bracket, not u11's.

                            Clay's u14's are playing on age, and not doing well while JFC is playing in the u15 bracket and doing well. How do you rank a team playing on age that's only won 2 games as a top team?

                            so let's revise your list, clearly JFC takes the cake on the boys

                            U11- JFC/JYS
                            U12 - JFC
                            U13- JFC
                            U14 - JFC
                            U15 - Westside* didn't look them up
                            U16 - JFC * didn't look them up
                            U17 - Jysc* didn't look them up

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                              #44
                              What happened to PV and their new boys program?

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                                #45
                                Really?

                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I would not mention UNF ever. The coach is horrible and the program really bad for men and women not much better. The coach is a DA scout. What a joke.
                                JB didn't play DA.

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