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    #16
    they are trying to figure out how to get every player in every division on an all conf then all state team. Do not want to hurt anyone's feelings. Season has been over for weeks. Everyone knows who the players are that should make it. Coaches and AD's are getting ready for the onslaught of calls and emails on why Nancy did not make it.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      So when are the all state players announced? How about the senior bowl teams?
      If your kid hasn’t been told, she didn’t make it

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        #18
        It’s a terrible injustice how all state selection is done.
        They say 22 spots. Then divide them up by conference. FCIAC gets 6, CCC gets 6 etc.
        Then they say for each conference, this school gets 2, this school gets 1, etc.
        Then the school gives it to their top player or players.
        None of this takes into account what players actually do on the field.
        A school could have 3-5 deserving all state players and only get 1 because of how they divide the pie. They want to spread out the awards regardless of play on the field.
        Let’s also be real here too, most high school coaches could not identify talented players if their life depended on it.
        And like another poster said, this is all done before conference and states. Tournament success should influence how this pie is divided as well.
        Just look at the boys LL. Players at small conferences got all state but I bet they would not even be a starter at the big powerhouse schools.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          It’s a terrible injustice how all state selection is done.
          They say 22 spots. Then divide them up by conference. FCIAC gets 6, CCC gets 6 etc.
          Then they say for each conference, this school gets 2, this school gets 1, etc.
          Then the school gives it to their top player or players.
          None of this takes into account what players actually do on the field.
          A school could have 3-5 deserving all state players and only get 1 because of how they divide the pie. They want to spread out the awards regardless of play on the field.
          Let’s also be real here too, most high school coaches could not identify talented players if their life depended on it.
          And like another poster said, this is all done before conference and states. Tournament success should influence how this pie is divided as well.
          Just look at the boys LL. Players at small conferences got all state but I bet they would not even be a starter at the big powerhouse schools.
          Spoken like a disgruntled Glastonbury (boys) Dada. How about the best on each team deserve it. Sorry the best on an M is viewed worthy enough from a coach or panel, but not you.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It’s a terrible injustice how all state selection is done.
            They say 22 spots. Then divide them up by conference. FCIAC gets 6, CCC gets 6 etc.
            Then they say for each conference, this school gets 2, this school gets 1, etc.
            Then the school gives it to their top player or players.
            None of this takes into account what players actually do on the field.
            A school could have 3-5 deserving all state players and only get 1 because of how they divide the pie. They want to spread out the awards regardless of play on the field.
            Let’s also be real here too, most high school coaches could not identify talented players if their life depended on it.
            And like another poster said, this is all done before conference and states. Tournament success should influence how this pie is divided as well.
            Just look at the boys LL. Players at small conferences got all state but I bet they would not even be a starter at the big powerhouse schools.
            There is so much wrong with your rant
            They don’t divide by conference because conf doesn’t matter with individual awards- strength of conference does matter
            Schools don’t vote for their own kids so you have to get others to vote for your kid- what they do on the field actually does matter- some schools do get more than 1
            Most coaches today are club coaches and do this everyday but we should let you ( who knows what exactly) evaluate all the talent
            The reason playoffs aren’t included is not everyone participates and you had 16 games to show what you have
            There are good players all across the state in the small conferences as well

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              So when are the all state players announced? How about the senior bowl teams?
              Its a fair question. Girls were chosen, but you can't find the list anywhere. Boys says the senior bowl was played, what about the girls?

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Spoken like a disgruntled Glastonbury (boys) Dada. How about the best on each team deserve it. Sorry the best on an M is viewed worthy enough from a coach or panel, but not you.
                That isn't how it works.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  That isn't how it works.
                  Have you ever been in the room where it gets done?
                  If your answer is no , then you have no idea

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Have you ever been in the room where it gets done?
                    If your answer is no , then you have no idea
                    Why should the best player from each team get considered? It's about best in state or conference or whatever, relative to one another not who else is on their team

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      It’s a terrible injustice how all state selection is done.
                      They say 22 spots. Then divide them up by conference. FCIAC gets 6, CCC gets 6 etc.
                      Then they say for each conference, this school gets 2, this school gets 1, etc.
                      Then the school gives it to their top player or players.
                      None of this takes into account what players actually do on the field.
                      A school could have 3-5 deserving all state players and only get 1 because of how they divide the pie. They want to spread out the awards regardless of play on the field.
                      Let’s also be real here too, most high school coaches could not identify talented players if their life depended on it.
                      And like another poster said, this is all done before conference and states. Tournament success should influence how this pie is divided as well.
                      Just look at the boys LL. Players at small conferences got all state but I bet they would not even be a starter at the big powerhouse schools.
                      While not 100% correct, it is pretty close.
                      Keep in mind that a top player in a small conference may not pass the eye test against tougher competition of larger / stronger conferences. So how can they really deserve “all state”
                      I have watched this happen in the playoffs for 20+ years.

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                        #26
                        The lists are not out as they are preparing for damage control once they are posted. Hard hats being passed out and lawyers getting ready to fend off the masses. Word on the street is several coaches want 4 + kids from their teams on the all state teams. Others took offense.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Are defenders overlooked when it comes to All-State awards? What are your thoughts/opinions on this?

                          Haven’t seen the girls list yet, but here’s the Boys numbers by class:

                          Class S - 22 total - 2 defenders
                          Class M - 24 total - 3 defenders
                          Class L - 24 total - 3 defenders
                          Class LL - 23 total - 2 defenders

                          Disclaimer - my kid is not a defender
                          defenders are over looked not just in HS but also with clubs in GDA, ECNL, NPL.

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                            #28
                            Anyone have the link yet?

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                              #29
                              Per previous posts seems there is a gag order to those coaches, members involved. Letters were sent to those who made the teams being chosen. They know when the awards dinner is. Looks like its a rap.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Per previous posts seems there is a gag order to those coaches, members involved. Letters were sent to those who made the teams being chosen. They know when the awards dinner is. Looks like its a rap.
                                Everybody involved knows
                                If you don’t know you aren’t involved

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