Fall OYSA Results - Boys and Girls

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Lots of the longstanding members of BSC that I know are offended... that the new management essentially went out and got new teams at many age groups. Nothing I should say should be intended as disrespect to the kids who played for many years at NEU and BSC, many of which found themselves, post-merger, on the bench or the B team. Roster turnover does happen, but it's been particularly aggressive at one club.

And lets be honest. UPDX's recent success (even though they failed to win a State Cup last year, they suddenly had a top 2-3 boys team at every sub-HS age group but 05, and a top 2-3 team at 04 and 01) was not organic development, nor explainable by simply combining two clubs and re-picking the A team from the A teams that were there previously. There was a lot of recruiting that went on, some of it underhanded, and many of the players that were leading UPDX deep in the State Cup were NOT kids who were playing for BSC or NEU the way before.

After all, the quick way to get wins is to recruit. Timbers seem to believe that, as they would rather spend $10M signing South American cokeheads than properly funding their academy. (And I'm sure the loss of the transfer fee for Brian Fernandez, given that Nexaca apparently is telling MLS and the Timbers to chinga tu madre, por favor now that they want some of that money back, will be used as an excuse for all sorts of thing by the Peregrine front office for years to come). And even the clubs in town that do seem willing to play the long game with kids, will eagerly supplement rosters if they can get away with, better if the player comes from a rival. Training kids takes time, most kids have ceilings that are below State Cup level, and the other teams are busy training their kids too. "It's Not About the X's and the O's It's All About the Jimmy's and the Joe's" has long been a popular bit of wisdom in American football, particularly at the collegiate level.

Be honest, UPDX. You want to be the alpha club in town, and are busy pushing the envelope to find ways to get the top-performing kids in black shirts. Many of those kids didn't play for BSC or NEU. You think this is bloodsport, and all's fair. We understand.

But don't pretend it's anything else.

On the Boys' Side:
01s last year - have not gone through the roster closely but a good number of those kids go way back with the BSC and NEU. Always had some good players at that age-group and it got stronger in the combination.

04s and 05s have benefited a great deal from an infusion of talent from TA and Westside (in the latter case with respect to 04s).

06/07 is little DA coming back into OYSA. It did push down what were historically top east and west teams into first division. However, not sure the DA teams that came in are any less organic then any other clubs.

Did some kids feel displaced? Maybe, although the counter argument is that most kids at that age continue to play with their friends while managing travel time to practice; and it has made it much simpler to place teams correctly (i.e. if you are "east" or "west" you don't play top flight, unless you earn your way into it). The club will have a better view of families' perspective when annual surveys are completed in a couple of weeks.

This fall the club experience significant on-field success on the boys' side across all levels in a way we have not seen before. There have been a number of operational items that could have positively impacted that and the real question is it sustainable; but the recruited narrative is incomplete.

And yes, the girls had a good fall as well although the progress on the boys' side is more noticeable (in prior years would have said the opposite).

Still lots of work to do and league results is far from the clubs primary metric or goal - that is a discussion for another day, including club v. team v. individual goals - but it is "a" metric, even if not "the" metric.

Happy holidays all!

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I'm sure that the kids at UPDX on those teams that did win the premier leagues would definitely take issue with that "vast majority" statement. The core of those teams - the rock solid players that are leaders on those teams - have been winning and losing with NEU and BSC since they were in rec as tiny tots. To say that their success is due to recruiting is completely demeaning to the hard work those kids have put into that club for years. Show me ONE CLUB out there that hasn't changed its top roster over time due to kids moving/club hops/natural attrition to other sports (I know there are none in the 06/07/08 premier OYSA leagues). They just do not exist.

So please stop with the BS that UPDX is only good because they recruit. It's simply not true. And every club recruits/markets because they need players to survive. Whether your definition of recruiting is a DOC or coach being out there asking about talented players or whether it's just parents sharing that they are happy where their kids are - it happens everywhere. And kids (and parents) want to go where teams are enjoying some success AND the kids are learning and developing. As long as that is happening where you are, don't rain on others' parade. Be THANKFUL, this week especially, that you can be happy for your child's growth, development and love of the game.

Easy come, easy Go.

The Woodburn (PDX South 07 Boys) are heading back to the Capital club next year. This is a 100% top level team recruiting endeavor.
Don't forget the same can be said for the lower rung premier (08 boys PDX South)
Calling a spade a spade.
These teams being decent have nothing to do with the BSC/NEU period, never have never will. The 02 boys recruiting effort ranks as one of the most disingenuous and laughable follies in the history of the state. Once again nothing to do with coaching or development, pure unadulterated conniving from the class clown.

Most thankful indeed!! As we are never approaching this classless clown show.

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Easy come, easy Go.

The Woodburn (PDX South 07 Boys) are heading back to the Capital club next year. This is a 100% top level team recruiting endeavor.
Don't forget the same can be said for the lower rung premier (08 boys PDX South)
Calling a spade a spade.
These teams being decent have nothing to do with the BSC/NEU period, never have never will. The 02 boys recruiting effort ranks as one of the most disingenuous and laughable follies in the history of the state. Once again nothing to do with coaching or development, pure unadulterated conniving from the class clown.

Most thankful indeed!! As we are never approaching this classless clown show.

I think you meant 04B not 02B

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On the Boys' Side:
01s last year - have not gone through the roster closely but a good number of those kids go way back with the BSC and NEU. Always had some good players at that age-group and it got stronger in the combination.

04s and 05s have benefited a great deal from an infusion of talent from TA and Westside (in the latter case with respect to 04s).

06/07 is little DA coming back into OYSA. It did push down what were historically top east and west teams into first division. However, not sure the DA teams that came in are any less organic then any other clubs.

Did some kids feel displaced? Maybe, although the counter argument is that most kids at that age continue to play with their friends while managing travel time to practice; and it has made it much simpler to place teams correctly (i.e. if you are "east" or "west" you don't play top flight, unless you earn your way into it). The club will have a better view of families' perspective when annual surveys are completed in a couple of weeks.

This fall the club experience significant on-field success on the boys' side across all levels in a way we have not seen before. There have been a number of operational items that could have positively impacted that and the real question is it sustainable; but the recruited narrative is incomplete.

And yes, the girls had a good fall as well although the progress on the boys' side is more noticeable (in prior years would have said the opposite).

Still lots of work to do and league results is far from the clubs primary metric or goal - that is a discussion for another day, including club v. team v. individual goals - but it is "a" metric, even if not "the" metric.

Happy holidays all!

If you consider these efforts to be a success you need more holidays.

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you are right. League titles are one way to measure success. What other ways do clubs measure success? Is it the mission of UPDX to win as many titles as possible? What else do they look to do to be successful?

Just a heads up if their mission is to capture state cup titles, let us know when they begin the mission. Current count ZERO!

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Easy come, easy Go.

The Woodburn (PDX South 07 Boys) are heading back to the Capital club next year. This is a 100% top level team recruiting endeavor.
Don't forget the same can be said for the lower rung premier (08 boys PDX South)
Calling a spade a spade.
These teams being decent have nothing to do with the BSC/NEU period, never have never will.

No one is saying that those south teams (formerly with 4H) are contributing to the current UPDX successes for the former NEU/BSC teams, and it probably make sense for them to associate with a club thats much closer to their location. While they are really good teams, they didn't win their divisions and weren't contributing to the league winning UPDX premier teams in any way, other than providing worthy opponents in OYSA. Glad to hear they will remain in the league for tough games in the future.

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They play in the Brazilian league against the worlds best. No time for your Mickey Mouse league.

That made me actually lol

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you are right. League titles are one way to measure success. What other ways do clubs measure success? Is it the mission of UPDX to win as many titles as possible? What else do they look to do to be successful?

Updx is also the largest club in terms of numbers which means you have more teams playing in more divisions it’s all relative. And if you have a kid on the winning bronze level 3 team it tells me you are oblivious and have money to burn- kid should be playing rec soccer and put the extra $1500 in a 529 plan for their college

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Updx is also the largest club in terms of numbers which means you have more teams playing in more divisions it’s all relative. And if you have a kid on the winning bronze level 3 team it tells me you are oblivious and have money to burn- kid should be playing rec soccer and put the extra $1500 in a 529 plan for their college

Says the anonymous moron about how other people spend their money. Why do you care? Do you also complain about how other people should buy generic fruit loops because you think they taste the same and are $1 cheaper after all!!! OMG!!

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Updx is also the largest club in terms of numbers which means you have more teams playing in more divisions it’s all relative. And if you have a kid on the winning bronze level 3 team it tells me you are oblivious and have money to burn- kid should be playing rec soccer and put the extra $1500 in a 529 plan for their college

It would be nice if there was a better option between "rec soccer" (which is cheap, but often of poor quality, and only runs for a few months out of the year) and even Div II classic soccer (cheaper than travel soccer, but still expensive). Actually, there is--go play somewhere like Saints.

That said, I doubt that anyone whose kid is on the C team is silly enough to think that this is a college investment. Lots of middle-class parents are more than willing to spend that sum on worthwhile activities for Junior that won't likely lead to any advantages for college; a year's worth of music lessons generally costs more, for instance.

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Says the anonymous moron about how other people spend their money. Why do you care? Do you also complain about how other people should buy generic fruit loops because you think they taste the same and are $1 cheaper after all!!! OMG!!

I buy honey crisp apples instead of Fuji, so travel costs are irrelevant to me financially.

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Says the anonymous moron about how other people spend their money. Why do you care? Do you also complain about how other people should buy generic fruit loops because you think they taste the same and are $1 cheaper after all!!! OMG!!

Why attack the messenger? They revealed this well known and perpetrated scam on gullible parents, being a happy sucker like yourself is a blessing it seems. Can't pay for that kind of bliss.

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Why attack the messenger? They revealed this well known and perpetrated scam on gullible parents, being a happy sucker like yourself is a blessing it seems. Can't pay for that kind of bliss.

Jealousy is an ugly emotion.

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Jealousy is an ugly emotion.

Stupidity and getting scammed are wonderful character traits it seems.

Not Jealous or even envious of your disposition, just thankful you own it and are happy with this affliction.

Season's Greetings!

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Jealousy is an ugly emotion.

Yes it is. UPDX, or specific people there, is jealous of the historical success of other clubs, hence the appalling behavior we've seen in the year-and-a-half the club has existed. From taking advantage of FC Portland's lack of A-license coaches (needed for DA) to get their nose into the tent and loot most of their 06 class, to the ODP shenanigans that got their DOC removed as ODP age group coach, to the referee abuse scandal, to people coming on here and actually boasting about winning Division 1 titles in fall league, the club has been a train wreck.