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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    “Can”, but probably won’t.
    Definitely not true. Albeit, less than D1 and NAIA. Wholly depends on program funding across all divisions except D3 and Ivies.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Ah yes the holy grail of D1. I know of plenty of crap D1 teams, but hey, at least you can say you play D1!
      Look no further than Harvard and Holy Cross locally.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered
        Definitely not true. Albeit, less than D1 and NAIA. Wholly depends on program funding across all divisions except D3 and Ivies.
        I agree. This poster speaks the truth, which is hard to find on these pages.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Definitely not true. Albeit, less than D1 and NAIA. Wholly depends on program funding across all divisions except D3 and Ivies.
          Sometime a player that is D1 material can get good money at D2 (as long as they are funded program) and one reason families who need more help financially target D2 instead.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Unless it’s a D1 team, aren’t most players getting no money?
            Ever heard of D2? It isn't discussed much but they have athletic $ also.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Sorry, but D3 merit aid has no correlation with soccer ability.
              On paper sure, but it still happens in reality

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Sometime a player that is D1 material can get good money at D2 (as long as they are funded program) and one reason families who need more help financially target D2 instead.
                For the most part D2 academics aren't the greatest. so they often aren't a target for more educationally focused families. Like with D3, only the top D2 programs have decent soccer and the rest is pretty poor. But there is money there for athletics. As with D1, if a player is getting athletic $ they have to sign a NLI

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  For the most part D2 academics aren't the greatest. so they often aren't a target for more educationally focused families. Like with D3, only the top D2 programs have decent soccer and the rest is pretty poor. But there is money there for athletics. As with D1, if a player is getting athletic $ they have to sign a NLI
                  But not every kid is an A student (actually most are not). There are many who have D1 talent but will struggle to get much merit anywhere, so when you have to rely on FA and some athletic to afford college, D2 can become the perfect fit.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Totally wrong. Recruiting does not always come in the form of dollars. It can come in the form of an admission tip or “merit” aid. You have no idea what you are talking about.
                    This is a fallacy. Please stop spreading this nonsense PMan

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                      #40
                      Men's DI get 9.9 scholarships and usually carry 24-30 players. The top 15 will get most of the money and most freshman will get money when they are a starter or a viable sub. Many will red-shirt and get some money in the coming years if they play. Any good coach will lay this out before the player signs the NLI.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        This is a fallacy. Please stop spreading this nonsense PMan
                        Not me. Got merit but had nothing to do with soccer. Also didn't get or need any kind of tip. Now you can change your rant again to "so obviously you know nothing about recruiting." But try to stick to a consistent narrative for the viewers, OK, BTNT?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Boy or girl? It matters. There's not much money in men's soccer, much more in women's. What year? There's nothing left for any 2020s, some for 20201s but closing up quickly (probably done at better programs). Is the program fully funded? Not all are so that also means less $ to go around. Some programs actually don't give hardly anything to freshmen then you earn your keep. Has your player looked at the resumes of the starting players and watched game footage? Does an honest assessment lead you to think they are just as good?

                          Ultimately if the school is perfect for them and they can accept that they may not play much then Why not? It's possible they work into an impact player.
                          They may not. But in the end the academics matter most. If it's not the perfect school or being a benchwarmer will really bother them, then keep looking
                          Have had two daughters play at the D1 level and each of them had 3-4 girls a year essentially walk on to the soccer program. Here are the pros and cons of being a walk-on. What coaches like about walk-ons is they typically have very good grades and help the team achieve their NCAA academic metrics. Usually they are great kids who love their sport and just want to be a part of something. This is especially relevant on the women's side. When a walk-on fits they can be a tremendous asset to the team. For example, one year the captain of one daughter's team was a 4 year walk-on. Truly an inspirational kid. What the coaches don't like about walk-ons is they are another mouth to feed so to speak that consume time and energy with little upside. They are another set of eyes looking back at them dying to get on the field in a practice or game that need to be managed like every other player. Unfortunately the absolute truth is walk-ons are just not at the same caliber level as the recruited players (most times it's not even close) so ultimately they become little more than practice dummies that the coaches need to figure out how to utilize less their attitude sours and they become negative influences on the team. For the players, it is a tough emotional grind going to practice every day to basically just stand there. A lot of them don't even dress for home games or travel with the team so within the group they are functionally set apart and put on a different level than the scholarship players. A kid has to be the right kind of kid to put themselves through this.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Not me. Got merit but had nothing to do with soccer. Also didn't get or need any kind of tip. Now you can change your rant again to "so obviously you know nothing about recruiting." But try to stick to a consistent narrative for the viewers, OK, BTNT?
                            You are pointing at the wrong shadow.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              But if you are not offered money does that imply the coach doesn’t believe you’ll contribute much?
                              Make no mistake, if a college coach is not offering money there is usually zero chance in an "equivalency sport" that that coach is going to give that kid any sort of serious playing time in a game. They might not even see the field during the full team practice.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Make no mistake, if a college coach is not offering money there is usually zero chance in an "equivalency sport" that that coach is going to give that kid any sort of serious playing time in a game. They might not even see the field during the full team practice.
                                False

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