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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post"CDL tries to cover this up by making the USA guest team wear the uniform of the CDL club."
Simply not true, we see the U16G celtic who play under the Clearwater Chargers CDL tag and we still see the horrible green stripes (and that's the home jersey, their away jersey is even worse) and not the iconic Ronald McDonald gold of Clearwater.
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From U9-U12, It's not even close. Only about 10% of USA teams can compete with CDL teams. Hands down. From U13, it changes. There's DA, U12's playing up, etc..
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI agree with most of what you post except your FSPL comment. I think you will find the non State Cup Final 16 teams that were admitted generally fall to the middle of the pack -- not the bottom. Competition is also very strong in FSPL D2 -- far more parity than local leagues.
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Guess there can be something said for the concept of a "qualifying" league, or relegation league. FSPL is the most competitive one out there right now, and is because FYSA finally stepped up and created a true league based on a TEAMS performance, not a clubs affiliation.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFrom U9-U12, It's not even close. Only about 10% of USA teams can compete with CDL teams. Hands down. From U13, it changes. There's DA, U12's playing up, etc..
Last years Final Four U-11 &12 - 20 teams USA, 9 teams CDL, 3 teams SWFL.
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This is laughable. One very minor step up and Dynamo showcases this bad in CDL?
U-15 Girls
Houston Dynamo
CDL 1 win, 2 ties, 2 losses 6 GF, 10 GA
USA D1 6 wins, 1 tie, 1 loss 28 GF, 8 GA
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo at U-12/11 they don't play State Cup, right? Last years Region Cup U-11 & 12, Division 1 & 2 had a total of 32 teams in the Final Four, correct?
Last years Final Four U-11 &12 - 20 teams USA, 9 teams CDL, 3 teams SWFL.
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They are about equal on the field, very little difference since many of the top clubs in the CDL send their 2nd or 3rd string teams to play in the CDL. The one big difference is that the CDL has the ability to keep bad clubs from becoming league members, clubs such as PCU, Celtic and GTBFC are not welcome in the CDL for multiple reasons.
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I have no inside information. I have been told that one of the requirements for CDL is that the club must be able to fill two two teams for each age group. Looking at the list of teams I see exceptions for almost every club. They fill the empty spots with additional teams from other CDL clubs or sometimes invite a non-cdl club to fill a spot.
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CDL is not as strong as it was - and will continue to drop
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI have no inside information. I have been told that one of the requirements for CDL is that the club must be able to fill two two teams for each age group. Looking at the list of teams I see exceptions for almost every club. They fill the empty spots with additional teams from other CDL clubs or sometimes invite a non-cdl club to fill a spot.
This weakens the concept of the CDL league. What non-CDL clubs should do is stay in the USA League and let the CDL league continue to dive - and it will. This works if the USA league starts to insist on quality coaches in the top division. Similar to what the State Cup mandates and what Region C is working towards. You must have a "D" license coaching the team in the Premier Division ... that would help improve the quality of the USA League.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThey are about equal on the field, very little difference since many of the top clubs in the CDL send their 2nd or 3rd string teams to play in the CDL. The one big difference is that the CDL has the ability to keep bad clubs from becoming league members, clubs such as PCU, Celtic and GTBFC are not welcome in the CDL for multiple reasons.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAnd thusly, the league is weaker ... not due to inviting outside teams in ... but if you take a closer look all of the top teams from the CDL clubs are playing in higher level leagues. That leaves these great CDL clubs in a position to place there 2nd and 3rd teams into CDL and when they can't do that they invite teams in ...
This weakens the concept of the CDL league. What non-CDL clubs should do is stay in the USA League and let the CDL league continue to dive - and it will. This works if the USA league starts to insist on quality coaches in the top division. Similar to what the State Cup mandates and what Region C is working towards. You must have a "D" license coaching the team in the Premier Division ... that would help improve the quality of the USA League.
That being said. The current level will only dive more if USA clubs can offer something better than CDL. For the Premier level, yes. Otherwise no. The CDL clubs will not let CDL die, because with all the other leagues they are in. CDL still gives them a place for a coach of multiple teams to be at one field for most of the games. USA can't offer this because of the number of clubs. Also, most of the 2nd teams players/families just want to play. Continue soccer, but with out the div 1 responsibility. Why go to USA club for that. You could have two kids in two different age groups. Why split them up down south and up north when they can be at the same away field. The Level CDL is at not is probably where it will stay or it will morph in to a new league.
Only reason you should be at a USA club is if on a Premier team (and didn't make a CDL clubs A team), Nearest CDL club is to far, or fees to high for your budget at a CDL club.
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