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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I don't get why everyone is obsessed with moving up to 11v11. Clubs around the world that develop players for $$$ all seem to agree that 8v8/9v9 at U12 is developmentally appropriate.
    Consequence of the confusion of the birth year calendar. Academy is on the wrong calendar. By 2017 they have to be on the same calendar as everyone else.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Umm, are you posting the A teams records? Bolts are on top.
      How am I supposed to parse out which games are A and which are B? Also, the rosters are fluid so not every game would be an all A or all B team. I am curious which club moves players between teams the most, but am too lazy to dig through it. That would be more interesting to me than the results.

      If it makes you feel better to tell yourself that your A player is on top, have at it. These standings mean absolutely nothing when looked at for development.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        How am I supposed to parse out which games are A and which are B? Also, the rosters are fluid so not every game would be an all A or all B team. I am curious which club moves players between teams the most, but am too lazy to dig through it. That would be more interesting to me than the results.

        If it makes you feel better to tell yourself that your A player is on top, have at it. These standings mean absolutely nothing when looked at for development.
        I don't have a player on any of those teams. The point was that the Bolts are ahead if you look at the U12 dap first teams. It does not matter who is rostered up or down on any given week. The results are the results. When you tally up the record of the Red Sox do you include the Paw Sox in those stats? Duh.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I don't have a player on any of those teams. The point was that the Bolts are ahead if you look at the U12 dap first teams. It does not matter who is rostered up or down on any given week. The results are the results. When you tally up the record of the Red Sox do you include the Paw Sox in those stats? Duh.
          Claiming these are B teams suggests that you don't udnerstand the u12 DAP structure at all.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered
            Claiming these are B teams suggests that you don't udnerstand the u12 DAP structure at all.
            The other poster was right. There are two u12 teams. The first listed is the better one, similar to academy and pre academy.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Claiming these are B teams suggests that you don't udnerstand the u12 DAP structure at all.
              If you had bothered yourself to look at the schedules and results you would have noticed that there are 2 teams in that age group.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The other poster was right. There are two u12 teams. The first listed is the better one, similar to academy and pre academy.
                You are not accurate. The game splits are not always A-B. Sometimes they are even, sometimes younger/older. The coaches decide the way the players are split and the game order.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  If you had bothered yourself to look at the schedules and results you would have noticed that there are 2 teams in that age group.
                  There are not 2 "teams"; there is a pool of players that the coach splits into in half to play 2 games on the weekend. The rosters are fluid, players are supposed to float back and forth. The only club that seems to have set teams is the Bolts.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    There are not 2 "teams"; there is a pool of players that the coach splits into in half to play 2 games on the weekend. The rosters are fluid, players are supposed to float back and forth. The only club that seems to have set teams is the Bolts.
                    FYI, coaches get together before the weekend and ten times out of ten A plays A and B plays B. If you attend the games and can't see that your blind.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      FYI, coaches get together before the weekend and ten times out of ten A plays A and B plays B. If you attend the games and can't see that your blind.
                      Not true Dan.

                      Look at the game reports and you can see significant player movement week to week with all but you guys.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Not true Dan.

                        Look at the game reports and you can see significant player movement week to week with all but you guys.
                        Game 1 today Seacoast vs NEFC. Seacoast 1 NEFC 0

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Game 1 today Seacoast vs NEFC. Seacoast 1 NEFC 0

                          That's Seacoast's strongest mix of players. Much needed bounce back after the Valeo loss last week. Probably the best kid out there for Seacoast is a 2005, the rest were 04's. He could play up to 2003's and be one of the better kids on the field.

                          2nd match ended 1-1.

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                            #43
                            I wouldn't put too much weight on the results of these U12 Academy games. The games are certainly competitive, but there are many variables in play that aren't picked up on by the untrained eye:

                            The MA teams are all out to beat one another. Just look at the personalities of the guys who run these teams. Do you think they're going to sacrifice losing face to one another for the sake of player development? Game day coaching is very much result driven when they match up.

                            Oakwood is pretty average, but their best 4 2004's play up. They also have a 2005 that plays up on their 2002's. They'd likely still be average if these guys played age appropriate.

                            Seacoast has a 2005 stud who determines the outcome of whichever game he plays in. How US Soccer isn't making them play him up on their 2003's or even 2002's is a mystery.

                            The biggest factor in play is that 4 clubs (NEFC, Valeo, GPS, and Bayside) only have U12 Academy status, no Academy U13 or older. For this reason, the best 2004's in these clubs play U12.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I wouldn't put too much weight on the results of these U12 Academy games. The games are certainly competitive, but there are many variables in play that aren't picked up on by the untrained eye:

                              The MA teams are all out to beat one another. Just look at the personalities of the guys who run these teams. Do you think they're going to sacrifice losing face to one another for the sake of player development? Game day coaching is very much result driven when they match up.

                              Oakwood is pretty average, but their best 4 2004's play up. They also have a 2005 that plays up on their 2002's. They'd likely still be average if these guys played age appropriate.

                              Seacoast has a 2005 stud who determines the outcome of whichever game he plays in. How US Soccer isn't making them play him up on their 2003's or even 2002's is a mystery.

                              The biggest factor in play is that 4 clubs (NEFC, Valeo, GPS, and Bayside) only have U12 Academy status, no Academy U13 or older. For this reason, the best 2004's in these clubs play U12.
                              What position does the 2005 stud play?

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I wouldn't put too much weight on the results of these U12 Academy games. The games are certainly competitive, but there are many variables in play that aren't picked up on by the untrained eye:

                                The MA teams are all out to beat one another. Just look at the personalities of the guys who run these teams. Do you think they're going to sacrifice losing face to one another for the sake of player development? Game day coaching is very much result driven when they match up.

                                Oakwood is pretty average, but their best 4 2004's play up. They also have a 2005 that plays up on their 2002's. They'd likely still be average if these guys played age appropriate.
                                S
                                Seacoast has a 2005 stud who determines the outcome of whichever game he plays in. How US Soccer isn't making them play him up on their 2003's or even 2002's is a mystery.

                                The biggest factor in play is that 4 clubs (NEFC, Valeo, GPS, and Bayside) only have U12 Academy status, no Academy U13 or older. For this reason, the best 2004's in these clubs play U12.
                                Can't put too much weight because if you did, NEFC would be terrible.

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