Setting the record straight on D3

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Why do you keep telling people what they should do? Do they need your approval to pla soccer? Do they have to justify playing to you?

I suppose you would just abolish D3 athletics across the board. Is that correct?

Someone should ask this guy why he insists on setting false expectations? Have to wonder why he is so invested in other families spending tens of thousands of dollars on club soccer when it is fairly obvious that their child is going to end up exactly where they would have ended up if they chose not to spend those tens of thousands of dollars -- as a student focusing on getting a degree.

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Someone should ask this guy why he insists on setting false expectations? Have to wonder why he is so invested in other families spending tens of thousands of dollars on club soccer when it is fairly obvious that their child is going to end up exactly where they would have ended up if they chose not to spend those tens of thousands of dollars -- as a student focusing on getting a degree.

Because that's what he did. Misery loves company

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Someone should ask this guy why he insists on setting false expectations? Have to wonder why he is so invested in other families spending tens of thousands of dollars on club soccer when it is fairly obvious that their child is going to end up exactly where they would have ended up if they chose not to spend those tens of thousands of dollars -- as a student focusing on getting a degree.

I have ZERO investment in what other people do with their money or what choices they make. And it is not obvious that kids would end up at the same place. No fairly high level training = zero minutes at top 3rd of D3 (at a minimum).

Answer the question for once instead of dodging and responding to your own posts.

Do you think D3 athletics should be abolished?

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Because that's what he did. Misery loves company

Don't particularly like company and not miserable at all.

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I have ZERO investment in what other people do with their money or what choices they make. And it is not obvious that kids would end up at the same place. No fairly high level training = zero minutes at top 3rd of D3 (at a minimum).

Answer the question for once instead of dodging and responding to your own posts.

Do you think D3 athletics should be abolished?

Although I generally agree with you, I do think you are wrong about the following:

"No fairly high level training = zero minutes at top 3rd of D3 (at a minimum)."

I am a big D3 fan; it worked out very well for her. I still follow her team. There are girls getting playing time at top 15 New England D3 colleges who did not play for the top teams at the top clubs. Of course, these are not the girls being recruited or getting coach's support. Also, D3 still has a number of multi-sport athletes and sometimes a LAX player, for example, can be quite good at soccer.

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Although I generally agree with you, I do think you are wrong about the following:

"No fairly high level training = zero minutes at top 3rd of D3 (at a minimum)."

I am a big D3 fan; it worked out very well for her. I still follow her team. There are girls getting playing time at top 15 New England D3 colleges who did not play for the top teams at the top clubs. Of course, these are not the girls being recruited or getting coach's support. Also, D3 still has a number of multi-sport athletes and sometimes a LAX player, for example, can be quite good at soccer.

Uh oh. This is the equivalent of kicking the D3 crowd's dog. Not the narrative they want out there.

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Uh oh. This is the equivalent of kicking the D3 crowd's dog. Not the narrative they want out there.

Too funny, BTNT. That narrative is fine with me. Didn't see the guy say many kids could get real playing time with no club soccer, and he seems to know that DAP and ECNL level kids are in fact playing D3. And the kids playing more than 1 sport at a top 3rd D3 are very good athletes and a bit of a dinosaur nowadays. Of course there is always MCLA where kids can play 3 sports and get a 4.0 in exercise physiology.

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Uh oh. This is the equivalent of kicking the D3 crowd's dog. Not the narrative they want out there.

Chances are the Div 1 school is a lot worse academically so your kid didn't didn't get as good an education, didn't get much playing time and they didn't have much fun. The only advantage of all the effort of playing Div 1 is that you can post in TS about your kid... playing Div 1.

Congrats!

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Chances are the Div 1 school is a lot worse academically so your kid didn't didn't get as good an education, didn't get much playing time and they didn't have much fun. The only advantage of all the effort of playing Div 1 is that you can post in TS about your kid... playing Div 1.

Congrats!

You're not going to get BTNT on that one. His kid is going to Duke....someday....And she is a big star. You could however ask him about the poor D1 experience of his other kid at FDU and then when that didn't work out forcing her all the way to the very, very bottom of D3. That's the real reason he's in these threads all day and night. If he concedes that D3 has any value at all with significant qualitative differences within the D3 ranks he would have to face up to how badly he punished her. Now THAT is some face-saving, lol.

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Too funny, BTNT. That narrative is fine with me. Didn't see the guy say many kids could get real playing time with no club soccer, and he seems to know that DAP and ECNL level kids are in fact playing D3. And the kids playing more than 1 sport at a top 3rd D3 are very good athletes and a bit of a dinosaur nowadays. Of course there is always MCLA where kids can play 3 sports and get a 4.0 in exercise physiology.

This turd deserves all the abuse he get. No wonder the D3 crowd gets so little respect around here with people like this acting as the group's spokesperson. A perfect example of a cockblocking jealous club soccer parent.

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This turd deserves all the abuse he get. No wonder the D3 crowd gets so little respect around here with people like this acting as the group's spokesperson. A perfect example of a cockblocking jealous club soccer parent.

Respect? From whom, anonomous D1 chasers? These are basically the hook, line and sinker dolls who bought into a dream that is a mirage, especially on the girls side where the level of intetest is so low that they can't even sustain a legue for the too 2 percent from Div 1. If soccer helps your kid enjoy college more and perhaps get into a better school then great. Everything else is secondary. Getting "resoect" from an idiot anonymous loser crowd not even a factor. If it is you have serious issues you need to deal with because your ego is prioritize over the well-being of your child.

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You're not going to get BTNT on that one. His kid is going to Duke....someday....And she is a big star. You could however ask him about the poor D1 experience of his other kid at FDU and then when that didn't work out forcing her all the way to the very, very bottom of D3. That's the real reason he's in these threads all day and night. If he concedes that D3 has any value at all with significant qualitative differences within the D3 ranks he would have to face up to how badly he punished her. Now THAT is some face-saving, lol.

Nice summary. He's still lashing out, in D3 threads years later, day after day--in a futile effort to convince himself and others that he didn't fail his FDU/MCLA kid miserably. Truly sad, and beyond any hope of rational reflection.

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Nice summary. He's still lashing out, in D3 threads years later, day after day--in a futile effort to convince himself and others that he didn't fail his FDU/MCLA kid miserably. Truly sad, and beyond any hope of rational reflection.

Agreed. The massive amount of energy he has to expend on this more than half a decade assault isn't about any of us at all. But's it's also sadly understandable, when you boil it down, because how could any man deal with what he would have to see in the mirror? Any even slight recognition of what he has done would be devastating. And so he must continue doing what he is doing. The fact of the matter is that he must keep soldiering forward with these bizarre, counter-intuitive, twisted-in-a-pretzel narratives.

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Respect? From whom, anonomous D1 chasers? These are basically the hook, line and sinker dolls who bought into a dream that is a mirage, especially on the girls side where the level of intetest is so low that they can't even sustain a legue for the too 2 percent from Div 1. If soccer helps your kid enjoy college more and perhaps get into a better school then great. Everything else is secondary. Getting "resoect" from an idiot anonymous loser crowd not even a factor. If it is you have serious issues you need to deal with because your ego is prioritize over the well-being of your child.

Your daughters coaches, her peers, the other parents on your sideline to name a few. All laugh at you.

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Nice summary. He's still lashing out, in D3 threads years later, day after day--in a futile effort to convince himself and others that he didn't fail his FDU/MCLA kid miserably. Truly sad, and beyond any hope of rational reflection.

And the obsession continues ...