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Yes if parents are smart they will jump the Scorpions girls sinking ship and head over to the Bolts! The Scorpions are becoming a pathetic lost cause run by the most incompetent staff who care nothing about retention and player/family satisfaction.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo, for the uneducated amongst us, or the skeptics, please can someone explain what ‘player commits’ actually means? Most players end up committing to a college don’t they? Even players who just play ‘social soccer’ So I guess my question is could the poster explain alongside each ‘commit’ posted here just exactly how much of a scholarship the players are receiving? How much are the families still actual paying to send kid to college after spending years paying thousands of dollars to play soccer? Can anyone accurately answer without distorting the truth?
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<13% of all HS varsity athletes continue to play for the varsity level sport in college in their first year. These data are from 2016. The number drops off with each year of college for a number of reasons...Got cut, injury, change in priorities, change school, no playtime. As more schools look outside the US or as more foreign students come to the US these numbers are expected to drop further.
These numbers are very superficial as 13 is the highest number across all sports. Soccer is <10%.
The disappearance of JV teams has affected this significantly.
School selection is affected by many variables and ‘commitment’ and ‘scholarships’ are, contractual and yearly reassessed. The only thing that is guaranteed is that you kid has been accepted to the school. Unless he or she is booted for specific reasons (academic, behavioral etc) they can get their degree. However, any coaches commitment to playtime or athletic money is a yearly thing.
Probabaly a good idea to make sure your kid really really likes the school before any comitment.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo, for the uneducated amongst us, or the skeptics, please can someone explain what ‘player commits’ actually means? Most players end up committing to a college don’t they? Even players who just play ‘social soccer’ So I guess my question is could the poster explain alongside each ‘commit’ posted here just exactly how much of a scholarship the players are receiving? How much are the families still actual paying to send kid to college after spending years paying thousands of dollars to play soccer? Can anyone accurately answer without distorting the truth?
Read the rest of TS for added color but this is the core:
NLI = Binding Contract for Athletic Grant in Aid (Scholarship). Signed Senior year. This has a scholarship, but terms are always private. Full? Half? Token? 1-year renewable or 4-year guaranteed? Best way to tell is read the college press release. Top names got good offers, bottom names got token
Commit = Various Meanings depending on context:
D1/D2 means a non-binding offer has been presented-accepted. NLI will finalize it later. These offers tend to stick as integrity of program for future recruits is critical. Student could screw it up tho.
D3 context it could mean two things.
1. D3 Coach has made a roster commitment, and offered to support the application, but student still needs to be admitted, which doesn't always happen.
2. Student/Family wants D3 student to have D1 NLI moment and posts picture of student signing/committing to a college when all they are signing is the same piece of paper EVERY enrolling student signs.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI suspect you are reading the other active threads too. This is widely discussed, therefore you know that the short answer to your final question is NO.
Read the rest of TS for added color but this is the core:
NLI = Binding Contract for Athletic Grant in Aid (Scholarship). Signed Senior year. This has a scholarship, but terms are always private. Full? Half? Token? 1-year renewable or 4-year guaranteed? Best way to tell is read the college press release. Top names got good offers, bottom names got token
Commit = Various Meanings depending on context:
D1/D2 means a non-binding offer has been presented-accepted. NLI will finalize it later. These offers tend to stick as integrity of program for future recruits is critical. Student could screw it up tho.
D3 context it could mean two things.
1. D3 Coach has made a roster commitment, and offered to support the application, but student still needs to be admitted, which doesn't always happen.
2. Student/Family wants D3 student to have D1 NLI moment and posts picture of student signing/committing to a college when all they are signing is the same piece of paper EVERY enrolling student signs.
Careful of what you consider a 4-year guarantee. No contract will be a 4-year guarantee without caveats......for example an athletic scholarship requires the athlete to be on the team each year. There are enough reasons for a player to be off the roster that the idea that the athlete consider the reality that he/she is also a student and wanting to be at the school regardless of the sport is still very important.
Another rarely considered part is the 'red-shirt' year and whether or not (it should) the money is still there.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI suspect you are reading the other active threads too. This is widely discussed, therefore you know that the short answer to your final question is NO.
Read the rest of TS for added color but this is the core:
NLI = Binding Contract for Athletic Grant in Aid (Scholarship). Signed Senior year. This has a scholarship, but terms are always private. Full? Half? Token? 1-year renewable or 4-year guaranteed? Best way to tell is read the college press release. Top names got good offers, bottom names got token
Commit = Various Meanings depending on context:
D1/D2 means a non-binding offer has been presented-accepted. NLI will finalize it later. These offers tend to stick as integrity of program for future recruits is critical. Student could screw it up tho.
D3 context it could mean two things.
1. D3 Coach has made a roster commitment, and offered to support the application, but student still needs to be admitted, which doesn't always happen.
2. Student/Family wants D3 student to have D1 NLI moment and posts picture of student signing/committing to a college when all they are signing is the same piece of paper EVERY enrolling student signs.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCareful of what you consider a 4-year guarantee. No contract will be a 4-year guarantee without caveats......for example an athletic scholarship requires the athlete to be on the team each year. There are enough reasons for a player to be off the roster that the idea that the athlete consider the reality that he/she is also a student and wanting to be at the school regardless of the sport is still very important.
Another rarely considered part is the 'red-shirt' year and whether or not (it should) the money is still there.
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