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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostExplain one thing then to me. Why is it that the ODP kid that was on my son's club team last year was terrible? Actually not sure why the club picked him up, but he was terrible and ended up riding the bench. Isn't ODP supposed to identify good talent. Certainly not the case with this kid. We were hoping he would be good as we had a couple of holes that needed to be filled.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYour's is the classic foolish position. The number of roster spots are pretty much fixed and they have to fill them with someone. If your kid is better than that player then YOU are costing him at least one bullet point on his playing resume with your bias. You are not seeing the forest for the trees. There are always bubble players and if that is who you are bench marking your son against that pretty much says it all. The real question to be answered though is whether or not your kid could surpass that weak player and make it to the regional pool and then to the regional team. The inter-regional event is still a who's who event and major recruiting opportunity. It puts players on the recruiting map. If you had a girl, they literally could be done with their college decision within a couple of months of making the regional team their freshman year.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFirst time doing ODP. When are ODP results published? When are we notified?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLook who's calling who foolish. You clearly have a bias. I was just trying to give the OP a bit of my experience. You said that ODP was good at identifying talent and yet they picked up the kid that I referenced that was clearly at the bottom of my sons club team. Not just my son, but the entire team was better than this kid. Your the one that is foolish. ODP clearly took a sub par soccer player. It's only going to hurt their brand. I could really care less. Just offering up my experience to the OP.
A weak state pool makes it that much easier for a truly strong player such as your son to get identified and advance to the next level where the talent IS much stronger and the exposure is much greater. That goes to seeing the forest for the trees.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAre you kidding? Waiting for Mass ODP selections? You'll find out soon enough that it's a colossal waste of time. Cash grab and sham program. Not the top players, the forgotten ones. Warning, don't even bother.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAre you kidding? Waiting for Mass ODP selections? You'll find out soon enough that it's a colossal waste of time. Cash grab and sham program. Not the top players, the forgotten ones. Warning, don't even bother.
Try to be specific: Did the coaches show up? Were the players tripping over themselves? Were the facilities terrible?
This seems to be a divisive topic. Many people (or the same person?) keep making the same negative comments, but nobody has made a case for those opinions.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostPlease expand. You seem to have some insight on the program. Would you mind telling us exactly why you feel that it's a colossal waste of time.
Try to be specific: Did the coaches show up? Were the players tripping over themselves? Were the facilities terrible?
This seems to be a divisive topic. Many people (or the same person?) keep making the same negative comments, but nobody has made a case for those opinions.
ODP is the first fork in the road. If you are smart you use it to govern where you go with club soccer as pass through it. That has the potential to save you thousands in the end.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThat same person(s) has been on this forum spouting the same stuff for years. What it comes down to is ODP didn't select their kid so now the program is crap. It's all just bitterness and there really is no logic behind.
ODP is the first fork in the road. If you are smart you use it to govern where you go with club soccer as pass through it. That has the potential to save you thousands in the end.
I am pretty sure everyone knows that it's the same poster who bashes ODP regularly and it's easy to tell by the posts that it's the same person posting. It's a jealous parent whose kid didn't make it. There is so much passion of hate that I can not believe it would be a club coach and if it is they shouldn't be around kids, they need a psych ward and the angry parent probably already lost their kid to DSS.
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Wow, you ODP people really drink the Kool Aid. If someone disagrees with you, you automatically assume that our kid tried out for ODP and didn't make it. Some of actually have experience with ODP and our kid did do ODP and we weren't that impressed and didn't find value in it. Sorry to burst your bubble, but some of us just don't think it is all cracked up to be. I do think it was at one time, but not any more.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWow, you ODP people really drink the Kool Aid. If someone disagrees with you, you automatically assume that our kid tried out for ODP and didn't make it. Some of actually have experience with ODP and our kid did do ODP and we weren't that impressed and didn't find value in it. Sorry to burst your bubble, but some of us just don't think it is all cracked up to be. I do think it was at one time, but not any more.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWow, you ODP people really drink the Kool Aid. If someone disagrees with you, you automatically assume that our kid tried out for ODP and didn't make it. Some of actually have experience with ODP and our kid did do ODP and we weren't that impressed and didn't find value in it. Sorry to burst your bubble, but some of us just don't think it is all cracked up to be. I do think it was at one time, but not any more.
As I asked earlier, please explain to me what you or your child didn't enjoy.
You state that you have experience. Can you share your experience with us and try to be specific in regards to the training or lack of. Something more detailed than; it's a waste of money/time, it stinks, your kid isn't going to make the national team, won't play in the Olympics, etc.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWonder if this is a club coach or a spurned parent?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNeither, my son has been a state and regional player. Did the NJ Id camps, the inter-regional and national competition and I can tell you he was not playing with the best in his age group. This 2008-2009 when DAP was in full swing and the program has already taken all the top players into DAP. It has further deteriorated now, with the advent of ID2 and PDP, it is much worse. Please hang on to your money, look at the coaches in the Mass programs. They are low level licensed high school freshman and JV coaches and other low level club coaches looking to pad their soccer resumes. The guy from Alaska is horrendous. ECNL has also taken the very best area girls. In short, it's not relevant anymore. It really isn't.
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