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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI'm not one to boast any club or program but must add that this is the first year I attended this tryouts with my child. I found the tallant very high. This was well organized and I seen about 9 coaches. The GK's also had two of their own coaches. I'm not sure why anyone would knock this. There will be 40 kids in my kids age group not making the team. Remember this is a year driven tryouts. When did your team get 70-100 players at tryouts in a combined age for that?
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In my opinion...
Access to different coaches, involvement with new players, more touches on the ball = a better and more well rounded soccer player.
If your kid is at the top of the ODP pool, he'll still benefit in other ways.
Or keep your kid with his winning club team and he'll only learn how to play with those same 12 kids.
Sticking with the same kids, coaches, teams will not make for an independent, creative, and well rounded player.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt's all relative. The better players don't do ODP any longer, so what you see is the talent (spell check is your friend btw) that shows up. Same with the coaching. You're paying decent money for mediocre, infrequent training. Also a program that makes cuts isn't necessarily a quality program but the better clubs do get that many kids trying out. Spend your money as you see fit, but go in with eyes wide open
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIn my opinion...
Access to different coaches, involvement with new players, more touches on the ball = a better and more well rounded soccer player.
If your kid is at the top of the ODP pool, he'll still benefit in other ways.
Or keep your kid with his winning club team and he'll only learn how to play with those same 12 kids.
Sticking with the same kids, coaches, teams will not make for an independent, creative, and well rounded player.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYou can achieve that many other ways, and probably at a better price point with better training, than ODP. This ODP round is one thing. Throw in the camp and the rest and suddenly you've dropped decent coin hoping to be id'd, when in reality you just got ok training
Not sure about a better price point though.
I think ODP Winter is $300. ODP Spring is $300.
Most clinics or camps are in that ballpark.
I think my point (or grievance so to speak) is with the constant "my kid is too good for xyz".
When in reality, I truly believe that the parent who keeps their kid with the same players, team, coaches; is actually hurting their kid in the long run.
My kid is doing Revs RDS right now and I/he is not impressed with his grouping or coaches. However, there are still things he gets out of it that are positive.
This notion of "he's too good for..." Well let's see where those players are at in 5 years.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgree. You can def achieve what I mentioned through clinics, camps, etc.
Not sure about a better price point though.
I think ODP Winter is $300. ODP Spring is $300.
Most clinics or camps are in that ballpark.
I think my point (or grievance so to speak) is with the constant "my kid is too good for xyz".
When in reality, I truly believe that the parent who keeps their kid with the same players, team, coaches; is actually hurting their kid in the long run.
My kid is doing Revs RDS right now and I/he is not impressed with his grouping or coaches. However, there are still things he gets out of it that are positive.
This notion of "he's too good for..." Well let's see where those players are at in 5 years.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIt's all relative. The better players don't do ODP any longer, so what you see is the talent (spell check is your friend btw) that shows up. Same with the coaching. You're paying decent money for mediocre, infrequent training. Also a program that makes cuts isn't necessarily a quality program but the better clubs do get that many kids trying out. Spend your money as you see fit, but go in with eyes wide open
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgree. You can def achieve what I mentioned through clinics, camps, etc.
Not sure about a better price point though.
I think ODP Winter is $300. ODP Spring is $300.
Most clinics or camps are in that ballpark.
I think my point (or grievance so to speak) is with the constant "my kid is too good for xyz".
When in reality, I truly believe that the parent who keeps their kid with the same players, team, coaches; is actually hurting their kid in the long run.
My kid is doing Revs RDS right now and I/he is not impressed with his grouping or coaches. However, there are still things he gets out of it that are positive.
This notion of "he's too good for..." Well let's see where those players are at in 5 years.
As far as training, hiring a coach and doing some semi privates with 3-4 similarly skilled teammates is a great way to get specialized training (coach can tailor to each player) at a good price value
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostYour a fool. I seen Ecnl, npl and premier players at tryouts this past weekend. I do realize that Stars ecnl and npl teams practice schedule is set up to run at the same time as the ODP so it's players ain't poached just like JD and GC did when they were involved. You should open your eyes as well. Your D team is not the only valid team in the state.
"Your a fool. I seen Ecnl, "
Correction:
" You're a fool" "I saw ECNL"
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOP here - not saying mine is "too good." But I look at what we get for the money spent plus trying to fit it all in and it isn't worth it. I have an older child who participated a few years ago and it wad a much stronger program then. If it were still that's this one would participate.
As far as training, hiring a coach and doing some semi privates with 3-4 similarly skilled teammates is a great way to get specialized training (coach can tailor to each player) at a good price value
Perhaps a few years back the ODP was run poorly but this year it looked like they had their thinking hats on. Jmo
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