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And then i took a look at Yale and the 3 kids whose schools I recognized did all play DA soccer during high school. And when i looked at their track team they were all state champions of some distance or event.

So I guess the top academic schools have different criteria. Yale certainly seems to look at what a kid's got on the mantel piece more than MIT.

And they my alma mater has got a soccer kid, local, who enjoys playing poker. Go Violets!
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Awhile back I discovered on the MA board somebody takes all the boys commitments each year and posts them - commitments that are publicly known (so may not include all) regular clubs (if known), prep school (if known/applicable) and DA clubs. In MA it's Revs (MLS) Bolts and Seacoast (both non MLS). Below is 2016 and he's done it every year for 4-5 years I think.

He also analyzes each class when they start playing, which is also very enlightening. In summary at least 1/4 don't play at all freshman year, some get a few token minutes, some decent minutes, the remaining maybe 1/4 significant minutes. A good 1/3 aren't even on the rosters by junior year. Maybe 1/3 are playing and contributing by still. In other words, keep it in perspective - getting onto a roster is only part of the battle. You have prove yourself over and over again and the likelihood of staying on for 4 years and being a major contributor isn't great. You better love love love that school for the school, not the soccer

http://talking-soccer.com/TS4/showth...143079&page=59

D1

Adam French-NEFC-St Johns Shrews-BC
Brandon Girard-NEFC-Philips Andover-BC
Jack Bacon-NEFC-Pomfret-BC
Jamie Rosiello-Pioneers-Pittsfield-BU
Jerry Ozor-GPS- Milton Academy - BU
Trevor Lyne-Suffield Academy-Bryant
Diego Vargas-Cushing Academy-Campbell
Frantzdy Pierrot-transfer-Northeastern-Coastal Carolina
Jacob Harris-Rivers-Colgate
Alex Botazzi-Benfica United-Worcester Academy-UConn
Mutaya Mwape-Manhattan SC-Berkshire-UConn
Zach Kalk-Vaughn Soccer Club-Berkshire-Dartmouth
Nicholas Ainscough-Bolts-Canton-Delaware
John Doran-FC Bolts Celtic-Canton-Duke
Ifunanychi Achara-Chicago Magic-Berkshire-Georgetown
Will Desautels-Nordic SC-NMH-George Washington
Bobby Hurstak-FC Stars-Lincoln-Sudbury-Holy Cross
Adam Bramson-GPS-Milton Academy-Lafayette
Luca Levee-GPS-Milton Academy-Maryland
Ceasar Adim-SF Vikings-Brooks-UMass
Donnie Igo-FC Blazers-Needham-UMass
Andrew Barrowman-Revs-Marshfield-UMass
Christian LaBeck-Bolts-BC High-UMass
Ibrahim Na-Aata-Nor'Easter-Durfee-UMass
Luis Carvalho-Brockton-UMass
Jordan Howard-Medford-UMass
Bill Sinibaldi-Revs-Plaistow-UML
Joe Kennett-NEFC-King Philip-UML
Ben Nicholas-Transfer-UConn-Navy
Bryant Nardizzi-Revs-Framingham-NC State
John Wilkins-Revs-Natick-PC
Imran Hayatu-Deen-Western United-Williston-Syracuse
Ben Waithe-Revs-Plymouth-URI
Nicolas Dutil-FC Stars-Cushing Academy-U Wisc Madison
Alejandro Estrelles Hernanz-FC Stars-Cushing Academy-U Wisc Madison
David Price-transfer-High Point-UVM*
Aaron James-Revs-UVA
Max Diamond-Revs-UVA
Miguel Yuste-Manhattan PSG-NMH-Yale



D2
Chris Romero-Bruno-Oliver Ames-Assumption
Jason Lages-Martha's Vineyard Reg-Assumption
Sammy Ferrera-GPS-Natick-Assumption
Devante Teixeira-Foxboro-Southern Ct St
Jon Lach-NEFC-Norton-SNHU
Brendan Hughes-FC Stars-Billerica-Stonehill
Keegan Nutt-NEFC-OA-Stonehill
Danny Pereira-NEFC-Norton-Stonehill

D3

William Herman-Bolts-Dover Sherborn-Bowdoin
Luke Lockwood-Blackrock FC-Berkshire-Bowdoin
Dylan Hennessy-Manhattan PSG-NMH-Brandeis
David Murphy-Bolts-Lawrence Academy- Brandeis
Tyler Poritzky-GPS-Weston-Brandeis
Nick Wigglesworth-Aztec Soccer-Waring-Brandeis
Alex Dziadosz-SF Vikings-Phillips Andover-Carnegie Mellon
Nick Bertand-Lighting SC-NMH-Case Western
Nick Mazzarella- Liverpool-Pomfret School- Centre College
Kyle Russo-FC Stars-Westford-Clark
Avery Gibson-Blazers-Nobles-Colby
Anthony Aquadro-Western United-Wiliston/NMH-Conn College
Freddy Stokes-Oakwood-Hampshire Regional-Conn College
Matt Knowlton-Aztec FC-Covenant College
Santiago Cardona-Revs-Winthrop-Dean College
Colin Cramer-Galway Rovers-Thayer-Denison
Liam O'Shea-Liverpool FSC-Millbury-Endicott
Corey Davide-Liverpool-BMR-Framingham St
William Kelley-FC Stars-Westborough-Franklin and Marshall College
Ezekiel Omonanya-NMH-Gettysburgh
Sam Eaton-Bolts-Concord Carlisle-Hobart
Binjo Emmanuel-Tabor-Hobart
Kyle Patrick-Aztec Soccer-Waring-Hobart
Brian Salazar -Bolts -BB&N-Hobart
Cole Kroniger-FC Boston-Milton HS-Hamilton
Aidan Wood-Aztec Soccer-Waring-Hamilton
Cole Acocelli-Liverpool-Sutton-Keene St
Dale Dubinsky-Liverpool-Sutton-Keene St
John Penas-Berkshire-Kenyon College
David Perry-Bolts-Xaverian-Lasell
Andres Amador-Bolts -UMass Boston
Aidan Carter-Bolts-Weymouth-Umass Boston
Julio Dasilva-NE Rush-Malden-Umass Boston
Jake Davenport-Scorpions-Weymouth-Umass Boston
Rafael Desouza-NE Rush-Watertown-Umass Boston
Sadraque Ferraz-Valeo-Randolph-Umass Boston
Sandro van Kuijck-FC Blazers-Newton North-Umass Boston
Nick Moore-GPS North Shore-Governor's-Macalester
Shay Quintin-GPS-Milton Academy-Messiah
Jeremy Cowham-Bolts,GPS-Milton Academy-MIT
Thibault Lannoy-Hong Kong-Berkshire-Middlebury
Shams Mohajerani-Bolts-Brookline-Middlebury
Anthony Notaro-GPS Central-Leicester-Nichols
Alex Grant-CSU-West Yarmouth-Norwich
Ronaldo Powell-Nantucket-Norwich
Griffin Burns-Hammer FC-Boston Latin-Oberlin
Mario Marino-FC Blazers-Catholic Memorial-Ohio Wesleyan
Cristian Baltier-Bolts-St Marks-Univ of Rochester
Matthew Quick-Bolts-Saint John's-Univ of Rochester
Mouhammed Thiam-NEFC-Andover-Univ of Rochester
Edmund Geschickter-Bolts-Brookline-Roger Williams
Larry Matt-Blackrock FC-Berkshire-Sewanee
Alpo Sipila-Blackrock FC-Berkshire-Sewanee
Darien Clay-Trinity-Newton-Sewanee
Max Cottrell-GPS-Beaver Country Day-Trinity
Zev Hattis-Bolts-Newton North-Tufts
Daniel Sellers-Seacoast United-Newton South-Tufts
Gavin Tasker-Middlesex-Tufts
Zachary Beyloune-FC Stars-Lincoln Sudbury-Union College
James Traficonte-Bolts-Natick-Union College
Jon Graske-Baltimore Celtic-Berkshire-Washington U in St.Louis
Drew DeCoste-NEFC-Somerset-Wentworth
Matt White-Liverpool-Mount St Charles-Wentworth
Ronaldinho Diaz-St.Andrew's (Ri)-NEFC-Wheaton
Neil Fitzgerald-NMH-Wheaton
Coby Goodrich-Lawrence Academy-Wheaton
Jacob Keene-Silver Lake-CS United-Wheaton
Brady Smith-Medway-NEFC-Wheaton
Liam Setterlund-GPS-Wachusett-WPI
Luke Lin dhole-Liverpool-Wachusett-WPI
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This came up on the CT board - I read that sometimes also for DA news since this board is quiet and BOTN sucks. There is getting to be a bigger gap in talent and college placements between the MLS clubs and non MLS clubs. For example 4 former Oakwood players are playing Eastern CT State (a so-so school academically and soccer wise). Many of their teammates played state level club, not even EDP or NPL. Maybe that's exactly the school and level of play they wanted? Very well could be. But they clearly didn't need to give up HS soccer for that - they could have played club and HS and ended up at the same place

http://gowarriorathletics.com/sports...2016-17/roster

I don't mean to totally cra* on DA. My son plays (non MLS) and it has worked out for him. Our HS sucks but it still wasn't an easy choice for him. But I've seen enough very sad cases where it doesn't work out that I get knots in my stomach when parents of younger players ask me about our experience or the club. Honestly I hope that ENPL takes off. DA is too big for the amount of true talent we have in this country (and coaching talent as well). Giving players a large national platform to still play good soccer and be seen by college coaches - without giving up HS - I think is a good thing. It's too bad that now USSF is trying to do the same thing on the girls side. It isn't going to end up being what they thought
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This came up on the CT board - I read that sometimes also for DA news since this board is quiet and BOTN sucks. There is getting to be a bigger gap in talent and college placements between the MLS clubs and non MLS clubs. For example 4 former Oakwood players are playing Eastern CT State (a so-so school academically and soccer wise). Many of their teammates played state level club, not even EDP or NPL. Maybe that's exactly the school and level of play they wanted? Very well could be. But they clearly didn't need to give up HS soccer for that - they could have played club and HS and ended up at the same place

http://gowarriorathletics.com/sports...2016-17/roster

I don't mean to totally cra* on DA. My son plays (non MLS) and it has worked out for him. Our HS sucks but it still wasn't an easy choice for him. But I've seen enough very sad cases where it doesn't work out that I get knots in my stomach when parents of younger players ask me about our experience or the club. Honestly I hope that ENPL takes off. DA is too big for the amount of true talent we have in this country (and coaching talent as well). Giving players a large national platform to still play good soccer and be seen by college coaches - without giving up HS - I think is a good thing. It's too bad that now USSF is trying to do the same thing on the girls side. It isn't going to end up being what they thought
Nice feedback. I always tell parents that there's a total of 9.9 for a fully funded division one men's soccer program. Most programs are 24-30 men. A lot of the cash will also go to foreign players. So the math is pretty bad even for DAP players.

If your kid isn't one of the top six players on the DAP team, your kid will have a hard time getting a large amount of scholarship money. With cost of some of these private schools that's a lot of cash to pay out of pocket. That's probably why some of the kids ended up at Eastern CT
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Nice feedback. I always tell parents that there's a total of 9.9 for a fully funded division one men's soccer program. Most programs are 24-30 men. A lot of the cash will also go to foreign players. So the math is pretty bad even for DAP players.

If your kid isn't one of the top six players on the DAP team, your kid will have a hard time getting a large amount of scholarship money. With cost of some of these private schools that's a lot of cash to pay out of pocket. That's probably why some of the kids ended up at Eastern CT
That's 9.9 scholarships for a fully funded D1 men's soccer team
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I've go no illusions of athletic $ - the amounts are anemic on the men's side anyway. The preference is for academic money because it's often times much higher for a good student and it sticks for all four years (athletic money is annually renewed). The frustrating part for many athletes is the number of foreign players out there. But to me that's also an indictment of the DA process. If the US was producing players just as good coaches would be taking them, not looking elsewhere.
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I've go no illusions of athletic $ - the amounts are anemic on the men's side anyway. The preference is for academic money because it's often times much higher for a good student and it sticks for all four years (athletic money is annually renewed). The frustrating part for many athletes is the number of foreign players out there. But to me that's also an indictment of the DA process. If the US was producing players just as good coaches would be taking them, not looking elsewhere.
Good for you, Academic money is the best money

It's a global sport and coaches want to win. Hell the USSF allows non citizens to play DAP for those same reasons.
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Second largest expansion of boys DAP

http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/d...nouncement.pdf
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College Commitments

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170203-a...-for-fall-2017
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Sure is a lot of variation by club - some fantastic programs and long lists at some (granted the teams are two years so some will have more seniors than others) but some are very short. Maybe they're just not complete. That said there's also plenty on here that are lackluster from a soccer standpoint and a lot of D3s, where the grades are far more important than soccer for admittance
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