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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Your post puts a lot into perspective. I also agree with much of your post. A year ago I would have said who cares about high school, ODP, etc, and that your daughter, if good enough, needs to be in a DA program. But, your points are well taken. Bottom line, unless your daughter is a top player (top 3 or so on a DA and/or a potential NT player) ECNL may be a better overall experience for your kid. A potential goal for boys is Pro. That’s not a real option for girls. College is the end game and you can get there with ECNL just as easily as with DA.

    So true. If you really, really want DA and have a good DA club near you that's great. If you're a truly top player and will be starting games and don't care about high school then it may be a good fit. But if not all of those criteria apply, then ECNL is a very good option as well (assuming you have a good ECNL club nearby because good coaching matters most).

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      So true. If you really, really want DA and have a good DA club near you that's great. If you're a truly top player and will be starting games and don't care about high school then it may be a good fit. But if not all of those criteria apply, then ECNL is a very good option as well (assuming you have a good ECNL club nearby because good coaching matters most).
      Unfortunately, the two leagues are not that different as they are both modeled on the boys DA. They do have important differences but they are both after the same high income female soccer talent with enough support to do all the travel. So now these players are split up in the different leagues and the competition is diluted.

      There in not much a player can do about it except make the best personal choice possible and carry on.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Unfortunately, the two leagues are not that different as they are both modeled on the boys DA. They do have important differences but they are both after the same high income female soccer talent with enough support to do all the travel. So now these players are split up in the different leagues and the competition is diluted.

        There in not much a player can do about it except make the best personal choice possible and carry on.
        Seems like the best option is overseas for girls. Pretty telling when our own WNT players are heading overseas as well. Overseas may want that DA emblem for the players it picks. Foreign academies were at the recent FL Showcase games for GDA.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Won’t happen. With another NWSL franchise closing, there just isn’t the money in the girls arena. USSDA should have worked with ECNL from the beginning. Could have hatched out a better program. It will get worse not better for GDA.
          US Soccer should be backing NWSL. They have the money. Spend it by investing in programs in the US. We already made the world better through our college system and they wonder how it happened. I was at the gave vs. England. England played better US Soccer than US did. Only reason we tied was because England had an own goal. And while there is a lot of ballyhoo about winning yesterday vs. Haiti (by US Soccer of course), the critics are panning the win saying it should have never gone to PK's with Haiti. These U17 and U20 upcoming WC should be quite telling.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Unfortunately, the two leagues are not that different as they are both modeled on the boys DA. They do have important differences but they are both after the same high income female soccer talent with enough support to do all the travel. So now these players are split up in the different leagues and the competition is diluted.

            There in not much a player can do about it except make the best personal choice possible and carry on.
            ECNL was a very good option. USSF had to ruin it. We didn't need a GDA. We needed the ECNL Board to be a rotating position. ECNL was formed to counter this, but after the original commissioner left for Atlanta MLS, replacement didn't keep in check.

            This way the big clubs would not be politically squeezing out the other clubs and only choosing it's own kids for YNT's or other events. That is the problem. The politics. If they figure out how to keep the politics to a minimum, then the product will flourish.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              ECNL was a very good option. USSF had to ruin it. We didn't need a GDA. We needed the ECNL Board to be a rotating position. ECNL was formed to counter this, but after the original commissioner left for Atlanta MLS, replacement didn't keep in check.

              This way the big clubs would not be politically squeezing out the other clubs and only choosing it's own kids for YNT's or other events. That is the problem. The politics. If they figure out how to keep the politics to a minimum, then the product will flourish.
              USSF doesn't want to correct the politics. Did you see the technical directors chosen for GDA? Right out of clubs and guess what, those club kids now getting picked. Should be a tech director chosen for each state and no kids from their club (if they had club connections) should be chosen by them. It should have to come from committee of tech directors.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                US Soccer should be backing NWSL. They have the money. Spend it by investing in programs in the US. We already made the world better through our college system and they wonder how it happened. I was at the gave vs. England. England played better US Soccer than US did. Only reason we tied was because England had an own goal. And while there is a lot of ballyhoo about winning yesterday vs. Haiti (by US Soccer of course), the critics are panning the win saying it should have never gone to PK's with Haiti. These U17 and U20 upcoming WC should be quite telling.
                100% agree that US Soccer should back NWSL. It would be pocket change. That Boston Breakers folds is terrible. Plus, Boston Breakers has a GDA. What happens with that now? I believe it’s a partnership with NEFC, but what happens? It’s just a real bad look and another example of how women’s soccer it’s an afterthought.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  USSF doesn't want to correct the politics. Did you see the technical directors chosen for GDA? Right out of clubs and guess what, those club kids now getting picked. Should be a tech director chosen for each state and no kids from their club (if they had club connections) should be chosen by them. It should have to come from committee of tech directors.
                  BDA has politics so no one should be surprised if girls goes the same way. For now they'll give some non DA girls a shot but it won't last more than another year. They're more interested in making DA work and taking over as top dog than doing what is best for soccer. They should have left ECNL and worked with them to improve it, then doing something smaller and different for girls. Now there's a new president being elected and tall the candidates say DA isn't working. More changes afoot soon - again!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    BDA has politics so no one should be surprised if girls goes the same way. For now they'll give some non DA girls a shot but it won't last more than another year. They're more interested in making DA work and taking over as top dog than doing what is best for soccer. They should have left ECNL and worked with them to improve it, then doing something smaller and different for girls. Now there's a new president being elected and tall the candidates say DA isn't working. More changes afoot soon - again!
                    Here is an article from the BU coach. One of the questions was DA vs ECNL. I believe her answer is the predominate feeling amongst college coaches.

                    https://www.socceramerica.com/public...n-on-wome.html

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Here is an article from the BU coach. One of the questions was DA vs ECNL. I believe her answer is the predominate feeling amongst college coaches.

                      https://www.socceramerica.com/public...n-on-wome.html
                      What a great article and interview. It's chock full of good information on many, many issues.

                      As far as DA vs. ECNL, seems like coaches just want the kids to be getting the most out of their training and games and in the best playing condition physically and mentally they can be when they step on campus as freshman. Likes and dislikes about both.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Here is an article from the BU coach. One of the questions was DA vs ECNL. I believe her answer is the predominate feeling amongst college coaches.

                        https://www.socceramerica.com/public...n-on-wome.html
                        Thanks for sharing

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Here is an article from the BU coach. One of the questions was DA vs ECNL. I believe her answer is the predominate feeling amongst college coaches.

                          https://www.socceramerica.com/public...n-on-wome.html
                          Great piece overall, not just about DA vs ECNL. Like many others she acknowledges replicating BDA isn't necessarily the best thing for girls. The dearth of female coaches is especially interesting - UCONN offered the spot to several men before finally giving it to an experience female assistant coach. She was juggling multiple balls while getting her degrees, working her way up, not easy.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Great piece overall, not just about DA vs ECNL. Like many others she acknowledges replicating BDA isn't necessarily the best thing for girls. The dearth of female coaches is especially interesting - UCONN offered the spot to several men before finally giving it to an experience female assistant coach. She was juggling multiple balls while getting her degrees, working her way up, not easy.
                            More female coaches needed asap. My daughter has had lots for school sports but only one in club soccer. And she was great and a great role model. Girls need more female coaches.t

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Hearing that the may not even have a GDA next season 2018/2019.
                              I'll fix it for you:
                              Hearing that the may not even have a ECNL next season 2018/2019

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                I'll fix it for you:
                                Hearing that the may not even have a ECNL next season 2018/2019
                                Jeez. How many pages back to dig up that one. We moved on from that silly fight.

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