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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIn fairness to the coaches? spare me. If the players on the team know the pecking order, and they do for the most part, what is the coaches excuse?
Lol. Put a competent mature player in charge then if you cant evaluate a player properly.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOr largely because soccer is, first and foremost, a business ... and this includes DA. It is largely because clubs need checks, not because of parents. Any club with integrity bent on developing all of its players would set a minimum standard for level of play for any player and not start by saying we need 22 on the roster to make this work. Similarly, USSF should have reinforced this at the club and coach levels when it started GDA by not allowing in 80 clubs most of whom were never ever considered elite.
Can't have it both ways: Can't say there are too many clubs on one hand, then say it's too difficult to reach the clubs (and if there were less, it would be even harder) on the other hand.
Where USSF failed was thinking more of the better clubs would want to follow them vs. where they were at. So, now they are backfilling.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postall these sub rule debates revolve around giving marginal players more time. the real issue is why are marginal players playing in so called elite leagues to begin with ? Largely because parents dont know any better
If you think you can make a killing running a 4 on 4 league for all the superstars go ahead. Good luck.
You will find out that money and talent are not linked and if you want to run a successful business, you need to find customers that can pay and play not just play.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostOr largely because soccer is, first and foremost, a business ... and this includes DA. It is largely because clubs need checks, not because of parents. Any club with integrity bent on developing all of its players would set a minimum standard for level of play for any player and not start by saying we need 22 on the roster to make this work. Similarly, USSF should have reinforced this at the club and coach levels when it started GDA by not allowing in 80 clubs most of whom were never ever considered elite.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFunny. Over on a thread in the other board the complaint is that soccer is only for the rich, because the logistics of getting to a club is too burdensome for too many.
Can't have it both ways: Can't say there are too many clubs on one hand, then say it's too difficult to reach the clubs (and if there were less, it would be even harder) on the other hand.
Where USSF failed was thinking more of the better clubs would want to follow them vs. where they were at. So, now they are backfilling.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBecause they are customers in a multi billion dollar youth sports business.
If you think you can make a killing running a 4 on 4 league for all the superstars go ahead. Good luck.
You will find out that money and talent are not linked and if you want to run a successful business, you need to find customers that can pay and play not just play.
there are 2 very different things. ive been very clear, these leagues are not talent based
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postyou are missing the point. accessing the game should be easy. accessing Elite level teams should be dictated by talent. it isnt. Sub rules are a non issue if the players are talented.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy should accessing elite teams be dictated by talent? What magic soccer fairy would pay for that? Love it or hate it , youth soccer is pay to play unless you can get all the coaches and refs and fields, and hotels, and gas, and plane tickets, and rental cars, etc etc for free.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy should accessing elite teams be dictated by talent?
Are you saying accessing elite teams shouldn't be dictated by talent? Seriously?
That is the #1 problem right there. Doesn't matter what league you are in, but no....absolutely not...Elite teams should ONLY be dictated by talent.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWait...what?
Are you saying accessing elite teams shouldn't be dictated by talent? Seriously?
That is the #1 problem right there. Doesn't matter what league you are in, but no....absolutely not...Elite teams should ONLY be dictated by talent.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWait...what?
Are you saying accessing elite teams shouldn't be dictated by talent? Seriously?
That is the #1 problem right there. Doesn't matter what league you are in, but no....absolutely not...Elite teams should ONLY be dictated by talent.
If this really were so important and critical then it would happen. It does not happen and yet life goes on just fine.
You just dont like that athletic talent is exposed as maybe not as high in the pecking order of importance and society sometimes makes it out to be.
If being an uber elite soccer athlete were as valuable as you are claiming, then guess what - it would be found and valued. Truth is - it is only valuable if it comes along with a decent bank account. Sorry if the truth hurts.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postyes. Seriously. Why?
If this really were so important and critical then it would happen. It does not happen and yet life goes on just fine.
You just dont like that athletic talent is exposed as maybe not as high in the pecking order of importance and society sometimes makes it out to be.
If being an uber elite soccer athlete were as valuable as you are claiming, then guess what - it would be found and valued. Truth is - it is only valuable if it comes along with a decent bank account. Sorry if the truth hurts.
Hooolyyyyy shlt.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postyes. Seriously. Why?
If this really were so important and critical then it would happen. It does not happen and yet life goes on just fine.
You just dont like that athletic talent is exposed as maybe not as high in the pecking order of importance and society sometimes makes it out to be.
If being an uber elite soccer athlete were as valuable as you are claiming, then guess what - it would be found and valued. Truth is - it is only valuable if it comes along with a decent bank account. Sorry if the truth hurts.
Hypothetical - if i created a national league where every club could enter one team irrespective of age, and keep all the other teams intact. ignore travel etc for now. do you think that parents would opt out of the game if their kid did not make the top team? At what age do you think they would quit if they didnt make it? Do you think every club would enter a team ?
now in theory, that top team would be talent based and clubs would have a greater incentive to show that they could develop players.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo, everyone gets a ribbon? Everyone is in the Honor Society, even if they aren't elite? Everyone gets training at Juliard, even if they aren't elite?
Hooolyyyyy shlt.
If you can develop a drug that clears up psoriasis - you will be found and compensated because someone will make zillions off of you.
etc. etc.
Female soccer talent has some financial value but not that much. The lions share of the value is in the money that the parents pay for the activity. By far.
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