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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I'm the OP. Here's a considerate answer to your inconsiderate response. You're right, that if your kid can get into an Ivy League School, then maybe their undergrad degree matters. But in most cases, it doesn't make a lick of difference where your kid gets their undergrad as long as it is a solid school and they do well academically. At least this is true for the kids who set their sights higher than an undergraduate degree, which is virtually a necessity today.
    Completely ignorant response from someone who most likely did not attend a top-tier university. Georgetown, University of Chicago, NYU, MIT, Notre Dame, Standford, USC, UC Berkeley, Vanderbilt and many more are not Ivy League schools, and yet will make a big difference in a child's future. Not only due to the superior education but also due to all the contacts they will make which they can tap professionally in the future. These schools are also much more dialed to the most desirable Wall Street and Silicone Valley jobs because most of the people at these jobs have attended these schools.

    Any level of college education is valuable and honorable but stop kidding yourself that the top universities are no different from your local state college.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Completely ignorant response from someone who most likely did not attend a top-tier university. Georgetown, University of Chicago, NYU, MIT, Notre Dame, Standford, USC, UC Berkeley, Vanderbilt and many more are not Ivy League schools, and yet will make a big difference in a child's future. Not only due to the superior education but also due to all the contacts they will make which they can tap professionally in the future. These schools are also much more dialed to the most desirable Wall Street and Silicone Valley jobs because most of the people at these jobs have attended these schools.

      Any level of college education is valuable and honorable but stop kidding yourself that the top universities are no different from your local state college.
      I agree; there's a lot of ignorance in youth soccer and I think it leads to a lot of future PE teachers. Without question, the college you go to counts. It means significant $$ over the course of your professional life. I do not see a future in which making money will be as easy as it was from 2000-2008. If you want to roll the dice flipping houses, good luck to you. but for the soccer playing kids that have the brains to be computer programmers, engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc., don't think for a moment that soccer is more important than academics.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Completely ignorant response from someone who most likely did not attend a top-tier university. Georgetown, University of Chicago, NYU, MIT, Notre Dame, Standford, USC, UC Berkeley, Vanderbilt and many more are not Ivy League schools, and yet will make a big difference in a child's future. Not only due to the superior education but also due to all the contacts they will make which they can tap professionally in the future. These schools are also much more dialed to the most desirable Wall Street and Silicone Valley jobs because most of the people at these jobs have attended these schools.

        Any level of college education is valuable and honorable but stop kidding yourself that the top universities are no different from your local state college.
        You missed the OPs point. But to each their own.

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          #19
          Even when a player wants to play in college and is college material, the grades still matter. It makes it easier to get admitted to the better schools and less likely to have to make trade offs. Coaches prefer players they don't have to worry about academically. You also up your odds of getting academic money which is preferable to athletic because it stick all four years ( as long as you keep up your GPA).

          Grades cannot be stressed enough

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Completely ignorant response from someone who most likely did not attend a top-tier university. Georgetown, University of Chicago, NYU, MIT, Notre Dame, Standford, USC, UC Berkeley, Vanderbilt and many more are not Ivy League schools, and yet will make a big difference in a child's future. Not only due to the superior education but also due to all the contacts they will make which they can tap professionally in the future. These schools are also much more dialed to the most desirable Wall Street and Silicone Valley jobs because most of the people at these jobs have attended these schools.

            Any level of college education is valuable and honorable but stop kidding yourself that the top universities are no different from your local state college.
            Silicone Valley? Is that where porn stars go to their boob jobs?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Completely ignorant response from someone who most likely did not attend a top-tier university. Georgetown, University of Chicago, NYU, MIT, Notre Dame, Standford, USC, UC Berkeley, Vanderbilt and many more are not Ivy League schools, and yet will make a big difference in a child's future. Not only due to the superior education but also due to all the contacts they will make which they can tap professionally in the future. These schools are also much more dialed to the most desirable Wall Street and Silicone Valley jobs because most of the people at these jobs have attended these schools.

              Any level of college education is valuable and honorable but stop kidding yourself that the top universities are no different from your local state college.
              "... but stop kidding yourself that the top universities are no different from your local state college." What? You obviously don't know much about colleges and universities.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Silicone Valley? Is that where porn stars go to their boob jobs?
                no that would be "Silicon Hills"

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I'm the OP. Here's a considerate answer to your inconsiderate response. You're right, that if your kid can get into an Ivy League School, then maybe their undergrad degree matters. But in most cases, it doesn't make a lick of difference where your kid gets their undergrad as long as it is a solid school and they do well academically. At least this is true for the kids who set their sights higher than an undergraduate degree, which is virtually a necessity today.
                  This without a doubt is 100% false. Companies do care where an undergraduate degree is obtained and when applying for a graduate degree program, if it is a competitive program, when decisions are made who to accept, if it’s an A student from Nova or an A student from UF, they are picking the UF kid, 100x over.

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                    #24
                    I went to a top tier college, played a varsity sport, got my degree and a championship ring to boot.... yet I'm still on here feeding in to the mindless garbage that the rest of you are so deeply attached to...

                    so yea... a lot of good that did me.

                    better get back to living vicariously through my kid, starting to feel like my only hope.


                    Oh by the way my kid is the next Lionel FVCKING Messi, so the rest of you turds better just hop back in the bowl and enjoy the waves he makes.

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                      #25
                      What?

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      My oldest will be going off to college next year. For those of you with younger kids who are holding out hope that soccer will pay for your kid's college, I wanted to share my own testimony.

                      My oldest kid played soccer fairly well, but then dropped out at 10th grade. Meanwhile, my second child excelled more in soccer and is still at it, though its doubtful the second kid will get any kind of scholarship.

                      My oldest kid hit the books and qualified for a bright futures scholarship:
                      https://www.floridastudentfinanciala...okChapter1.pdf

                      There are two tiers for Bright futures, with the lower tier requiring a 3.0 GPA and the higher tier requiring a 3.5 GPA. With so much grade inflation these days, the GPA isn't the tricky part to qualifying. The tricky part is the SAT/ACT score. There are other requirements like the types of coursework and volunteer work, but the SAT test seems to be the stumbling block. It's worth noting that the SAT test was curved by about 100 points about 20 years ago. So some of you older folks who took the SAT test should know it's a little easier than it was.

                      In the end, my oldest qualified for the highest tier, and will have 100% of her tuition paid, plus a $300 stipend for books per semester (which is about half of what they cost). So if she goes to school locally, college is practically free, except for living expenses.

                      Room and board (food) will run close to about $11,000 a year at most of the Florida Schools. But some of the smaller Florida colleges have incentive scholarships that have similar qualifications and similar payouts to bright futures, so we figure we really need to worry about half of the dorm/food bills. We plan to try to close the rest of the gap with private scholarships, and if that doesn't work, and we don't qualify for financial aid, then our plan is for our kid to take out low interest student loans and I'll pay down the loans while she's in school.

                      Knowing what I know now, my kids will focus more on academics with an eye toward making sure they smoke the SAT test.

                      In my experience, I've seen a lot of anxiety as parents push their kids to soccer greatness to get a scholarship. In reality, I think it makes more sense to just pursue soccer as a fun activity where they can blow off steam and push them toward scholastics.

                      ***Bro, you telling us you didn’t know it was important to “hit the books?” If this is your revelation now, I feel sorry for your kids bro. That should have common sense to you and your family a long time ago. Even as a full scholarship athlete, you still need to “hit the books.” Sorry it took you so long to learn what has been basic knowledge to most of this country for decades...perhaps at least for 4 decades.***

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                        #26
                        OP here. I'm an idiot! Thanks for reminding me.

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                          #27
                          Hi

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I went to a top tier college, played a varsity sport, got my degree and a championship ring to boot.... yet I'm still on here feeding in to the mindless garbage that the rest of you are so deeply attached to...

                          so yea... a lot of good that did me.

                          better get back to living vicariously through my kid, starting to feel like my only hope.


                          Oh by the way my kid is the next Lionel FVCKING Messi, so the rest of you turds better just hop back in the bowl and enjoy the waves he makes.
                          Hi Grant Hill...saw you in Orlando last time oír kids played each other...I didn't know you were in TS...next time when I see you "avoiding" everyone with your camera equipment...I'll come up and say hi.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            OP here. I'm an idiot! Thanks for reminding me.
                            Any time, that's what your TS friends are for !

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Hi Grant Hill...saw you in Orlando last time oír kids played each other...I didn't know you were in TS...next time when I see you "avoiding" everyone with your camera equipment...I'll come up and say hi.
                              Sounds good... bring me some coffee too?

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                                #30
                                True

                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The OP makes a really solid point.

                                I've seen tons of kids accept going to a school just so they can play soccer. They typically have little care for what programs the school offers, simply looking at the fact that the Div 2 school in Tennessee wants her to go there. Have fun at that liberal arts college that offers very few useful majors, but hey, at least you can tell your buddies your child is playing college soccer.

                                I understand it is a dream of the "kids" to play soccer in college, but sometimes, as parents, we need to have a frank discussion about what is the best option. This may mean, even if your child has a place to play soccer in college, it may be in their best interest to go someplace different.
                                ***Bro, I agree. Most of the colleges are really bad and have terrible reputations elsewhere in the country....well, at least the ones that actually have reputations. Most of the country has no idea these so called colleges even exist. So - please - don’t let your kid go to these crap schools to play low level soccer and then leave with a worthless diploma.

                                And yes, the undergraduate location matters - always. If not for any other reason, great grad programs do look at and consider the quality of the undergraduate school. And many down here are really not worth much more than a HS degree or one from abroad, excluding Europe. Eat that truth... surely you will reject it because to accept that stark reality means the one truth you have denied for decades must rear its ugly head to remind you that — you suck.***

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